Why do guns scare people...

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Hoosier8, Jul 27, 2012.

  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ...because if they have no experience with them, they are scary. Period. I would suspect that most peoples experience with guns comes from the Movies, TV and crime they hear broadcast on the nightly news and nothing they hear is positive.

    If you are raised with them, then they are like any other tool. Something to be used for hunting or self defense in the most extreme case.

    If you aren't, I will tell you what I see. Most people that come into a gun shop and buy their first firearm of intently interested in training. Most gun shops provide some avenue for this. Once you have one in your hands you realize the responsibility of owning one. If you get a carry license, you are even more aware. Most people that do, end up looking up things online and eventually come across a gun forum where they can ask questions and get answers. Most questions from new gun owners are related to the nonsense they hear on TV.

    For those of us that like to collect them, realize that you can only use one at a time. If you own guns in different calibers, you usually have ammunition for each caliber. Most of us find it funny when the news reports that a "cache of firearms" (5 or 10) with "up to 400 rounds of ammunition" were found at a house. Collectors often have many more than that and sometimes up to a thousand rounds for each caliber, if they can afford it. It is easy to put a couple of hundred downrange during a shooting session. If you are on a budget, you buy as much ammo as you can when it is cheap so you can have enough to mess with during a shooting session.

    If you carry, self defense ammo is often fairly expensive and often comes in a box of 20 so is expensive to practice with but if you carry a semi-auto, then you need to practice with what you carry to make sure the handgun functions properly with that ammunition. Not all do.

    I saw a show where they took a woman out skeet shooting who had never handled a firearm and the first time she did she cried because she was so afraid of guns. She found that she eventually enjoyed it. That is usually the experience of those that have no experience with firearms.
     
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    I don't like guns and am scared of them because they only have one purpose: to kill. And they make killing another being incredibly easy.

    Now, I'm well aware that almost everything can be used to kill or injure somebody. However, I believe that killing somebody with a knife, for example, is harder to do than to kill somebody with a gun. If you use a knife you have to get close to somebody and you're more involved in the actual act of killing since you'll probably get some blood on you and feel the resistance of the tissue and bones. You don't get that closely involved if you use a gun and therefore it might be easier to actually attack and kill somebody using a gun.

    So I really don't like guns and I'll be glad if I never have to hold or fire one. That doesn't mean that I want to confiscate all guns. However, I'm very much for strict gun laws, psychological assessments for anyone wanting to own a gun and strict rules of storage. And I have to admit that I'm very glad that we have all those restrictions in Germany.
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Yet so few are used for your imagined "purpose" argument.

    Use defines purpose.
     
  5. Friendly

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    people are scared of what they dont understand.
     
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    I see ignorance, especially from those who think hunters use 30 round magazines.
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Or those who claim that AR-15's are too powerful for hunting.

    LOL
     
  8. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why do guns scare people...

    Because you nutters obey the merchants of death and let even nuttier nutters arm themselves like crazy bandits. In ten years, by banning most of the nutters' popguns, we have reduced the annual number of deaths by gunshot in the UK from 96 to 39. Guns scare people because they can be used to kill them. Obvious, really.
     
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    Yawn UK is one of the most violent places on the planet. While you may have a less chance getting shot, have fun getting stabbed! Pull your head out of the sand.
     
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    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No. That is just the drivel you clowns console yourself with as you shoot one another. Few die of knife crimes here, and the general level of violence has dropped by almost half.
     
  11. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/1440764.stm

     
  12. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Violent crime has skyrocketed in the UK after the institution of the gun ban. They now have age restrictions on the purchase of kitchen knives.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Pre and post gun bans

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    You also have similiarly had an increase in knife crime.

    Criminals are violent, they are not dumb.
     
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    So you like restriction laws, but nothing about punishment laws. I suspect your primary focus is on the rights of the felons and that you support cozy prison conditions and no death penalty, becaue "this is not civilized."

    So you understand that a felon who uses a knife to stab a victim during a crime is a more dangerous and violent person. And that someone who puts a few nice round holes in a victim during a crime is more easy-going.

    What punishment is derserved for each example if convicted of 1st degree murder in your opinion?
     
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    Among the deaths by violent crime, getting shot is like getting a candy bar. "Ask" the people who have been beaten to death with a bat, hammer or axe. It is a tool, just like the other items, that in the wrong hands will lead to problems. Banning the concept of a tool will put you into the stone ages in order to provide rationalization for the irresponsible.
     
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    I am against banning handguns for responsable owners. And I agree with the concept of the right to bear arms.

    But I will have to admit...well anyway we hired this person to paint and he rode a motorcycle, was on medication, rented his domicile, and borrowed money every week to get through the week. His motorcycle broke down and he had to catch a ride with a fellow employee and could not afford to get his motorcycle out of hock and threatened to burn the place down. Then he started complainine about every little thing on every job. He was a pest.

    He owned a lot of guns and knives and was big into martial arts. He finally told the shop foreman "if I had another job I would just quit", the shop foreman replied "let me help you out.. you are fired". They were in the middle of a heated argument.

    Now this is a guy that will not be able to pay his rent and we will see him walking down the road with his trashbag full of clothes.
    Several employees were going to take off work today because there was a real possibility that this unstable individual would come back in shooting.

    The two of us that took psychology figured he was the type.

    I can't say I was scared of guns at work today...but we were all "watchfull".
     
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    politicalcenter Well-Known Member

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    Dude I would have real problems getting an answer from someone that has been beaten to death LOL..
     
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    You've never stabbed someone than. It's just as easy, if not more so because a knife doesn't make a loud ass boom after you cut someone up.
     
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    You are, Knife crime is down by 5%, as you know.
     
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    All you truth-haters should read last week's Economist, which gives the figures. How can people go on writing what they know is untrue just to please their masters?
     
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    It isn't the tool, it is the mind behind it. One can be "sane" one moment, and safe to be around, the next can be deadly. Armed with either a knife or gun, broken minds will do what ever they want.
    I am familiar with firearms and was raised around them. I am safe, and educated about their uses.
    Being prepared is a lot diferent than wishing you had been.
    Those who surrender their guns for plowshares will always slave for those who didn't..... history reflects that
     
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    History reflects the fact that those with guns and no self-respect will murder people. Either change the system to give them some self-respect or take away their pop-guns, and preferably both.
     
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    Seems odd,if knife crime is down 5% that they'd be consideric regulating knives as well....Frankly I don't think your home office knows what the real figures are....they just put out enough to fool people into thinking their policies are working
     
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    That is a false statement.

    The UK has one of the highest violent crime rates in the civilized world; far higher per capita than the United States. Yes, our homicide rate is higher, but you are more likely to get mugged in broad daylight in London than you are in Central Park in New York City at 3 am.

    You want to feel oh-so-superior to us, but you're just deluding yourself, Iolo.
     

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