Guns do not make a difference. Sick minds will use anything available to them. I may be misremembering, but after the UK started implementing gun control, wasn't there an incident were some broken mind attacked a church full of people with a good ol' fashioned sword. If I remember correctly, he killed 7 or 8 people and wounded 4 or 5 others? History is full of broken minds that have lashed out against society by killing others. Yes, in some cases guns were used. Charles Manson, one of our most colorful mass murderers used revolvers. Richard Speck used a knife to murder 8 nursing students in Chicago IL. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Speck. Jim Jones used poison to kill hundreds, including children yet your post did not take that into account. The list of high profile murders is almost uncountable throughout the world, but these others came to mind because they are included in history as well. Manson, Speck, and Jones had little to no regard for other lives. The common thread is the broken mind, not the weapon.
A man attacked an MP with a sword. Why do you have four times as many broken minds as us, six times as many as the Germans and thirteen times as many as the Japanese?
probably because of the per capita...... The US has a higher pop count than those other countries. Does that mean you are only looking at the US instead of the entire global picture? As history is reviewed, governments are the greatest of all evildoers amassing well over hundreds of millions of civilians dead, deliberately. Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,000 Adolf Hitler (Germany, 1939-1945) 12,000,000 (concentration camps and civilians deliberately killed in WWII plus 3 million Russian POWs left to die) Leopold II of Belgium (Congo, 1886-190 8,000,000 Jozef Stalin (USSR, 1932-39) 6,000,000 (the gulags plus the purges plus Ukraine's famine) Hideki Tojo (Japan, 1941-44) 5,000,000 (civilians in WWII) This where history's worst atrocities were committed ( http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/dictat.html ) ......might want to rethink Germany or Japan How can one apply the number of sick minds without history coming to mind? There is no way to accurately predict the number of sick minds around the globe and who has the most per capita I am not downplaying the events. There are many instances of under-investigated and under-reported multiple murders. If a nation of 100,000 has ten murders, they become the murder capital of the world. IMO, texting or drinking and driving is the same as murder resulting in a high death count.
here's the article I referred to http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/november/28/newsid_2527000/2527805.stm I correct myself. No deaths, but plenty of blood. I figured they would ban swords after that. lol
I thought we were talking about gunmen and the proportionate murder rate, not history? The figures are pretty definite - you have vastly more murders because you let murderers have guns.
actually, this thread asks the question ..."Why do guns scare people?" 1. Gun crime generates news and profits, knife incidents do not. Whipped up fear. 2. People lack experience and personal knowledge about firearms, therefore raising the fear factor. People fear what they don't understand or are familiar with 3. We have more guns because our Constitution allows us. If we install a gun ban, then only those who are true criminals will have them, therefore I have mine to offset the chances of me, personally, becoming a victim.
You are right about the title. All normal people are scared of guns because they are used to kill people. I am more - well, alarmed, not scared - by the fact that you allow criminals to sell and use them, with the result that you have an incredible murder-rate because your judges tell lies about what your Constitution means in order to please the criminals who sell death and finance career politicians. If you install a gun ban you will learn very quickly what your alleged democracy is actually worth in an actual plutocracy.
I can see your point and undestand it. Most people who lawfully purchase firearms are legitimate and law abiding folks. But as in most cultures you will have a few that aren't so "above the table." Their actions are often portrayed as contrary to the lawful holders who practice safe handling and storage. There is no accounting for private transfere of firearms in most States or by Federal regulations. In Indiana, if you have a pistol you had better be ready to show that you got it through some recognizable process such as a bill of sale or some denotation of transfere that can be verified. Otherwise you can be charged with illegal possession of a firearm. This rarely happens, but it has been used in this State's courts as a means to prosecute the "illegal possesor." I have a rule that I follow for private transferes: I check that weapon with the local officials to ensure that it is not stolen or had been used in the performance of some criminal act. That keeps me above board and "legal." I also recognize that we are already a plutocracy, but I suspect it has been so since the inception of the Constitution.
I own several pistols and a pump shotgun and I find them pretty scary, honestly. I know how to use them safely, but the deadly power they can yield is real food for thought. It's a healthy fear.
My only Gun which is protect me the most, is God. Tell you something, i have a story. One day im in a situation when i am outside my office. Then a robbery happened, as a Police, it is natural for to help victims. When i faced the robber, i forgot that my gun is in my office, i didnt bring it. But i have to help, because back up isnt came yet. I only say to God, "Lord, if thou be with me then help me. I submit to you life and death, health and illness. What would you want, I'm sincere. Because I know, you really know the best for me." And i dont know if it a coincidence or it is really God who made it, when run through the robber and he tried to shot at me, not even a single shell hit me. Its a true story, ha ha ha
That just isn't true at all. Not that many people had experience with guns at the Aurora cinema. Pity so many died because of that experience.
No, you are wrong. Normal people familiar with guns are not afraid of them. Ignorance breeds fear. No one "allows" criminals to buy and sell guns. That is just not the case. We have a murder rate higher than the UK because we have always had a murder rate higher than the UK. It is a matter of culture, not guns that dictates that. For instance, in the US nearly 1/2 of the gun crime is in the black community. That is a social and mostly drug issue. If it weren't, it wouldn't be so disproportionate to the other cultures.
You missed my point. Because most people are unfamiliar with guns, the only information they get are from movies and TV.
The fear of guns is a lot like many peoples' fear of snakes. They have very little experience with them, don't know much about them, know that sometimes they can hurt people, therefore they are afraid. Usually if you have experience with either one, you lose that fear because you understand what you are working with.
No guns, no gun crime. I am unlikely ever to meet an armed nutter, so I trust my countrymen and they trust me. If I started swaggering round armed like a drunken cowboy other people would do the same. You should watch a different lot of films and stop letting deathmerchants wash your brains.
Hardly even the underlying issue here. In America, the individual is sovereign. You are not allowed to take guns away. This is a moot point. It's our right and we shouldn't care about the crime rates. It's our right, and the rights of the individual supercede the collective good. Now, how about they focus gun legislation on illegal guns instead of law abiding citizens? Never once has the Brady Campaign or stupid California Leftists ever targeted criminals or illegal guns in their legislation. All they ever do is target law abiding citizens. So (*)(*)(*)(*) em.
Lets just say that the gun never was and will never exist. So then there will always be the debate about the other item that it's only purpose is to kill. What that item would be....who knows? Man would think of something...it would probably be something intended for good....to help mankind.... A closed mind is a very scary thing. It can not see many of the good things in life. It can only see or imagine the bad that might be or only sees what everybody else is doing wrong... An open mind is always willing to learn and see all the positives in life, one who understands. Anyway.....
Bullsh^T! Again with this "I'm not from you country, so I'm gonna advise ya on how to make it work." Just because firearms are illegal and unlawful for you to own, it is your opinion that you can make that work over here. You are so unaware of the american culture. That and your location makes you unqualified to percieve anything accurately. Besides, we ran ya'll off twice with firearms. Maybe that's the reason you'd like to see us disarmed so you can take another pass at us? Or are you just simply a true pacifist? Shall we talk about your violent crime? What about the number of knife incidents, violent home invasions, and attacks on the elderly in your fair country? You don't see us advising you to ban knifes and relocate potential targets to confined living spaces where they [elderly] would be safe and secure. Ban all edged tools!!! everything from boxcutters to exotic swords. Everything. Then violent crime will magically disappear!!! "...swaggering round armed like a drunken cowboy..." What movies have you been watching? I own and do not "swagger" around. Aren't some of those deathmerchants located in the UK? I mean, you do have gun manufactureres over there, don't you?
