Well when you resort to trying to attach sinister motives to my position instead of defending your own, you obviously cannot defend your own. I have explained my motives to you and you simply ignore it. When you have to make up lies about and demonize the opposition to your opinion to feel good about your opinion, it is clear your opinion is seriously flawed. Not sure why you are trying to derail the thread by wandering off on some tangent, but I will not participate. Have a nice day.
Homicide is not a legal term, it is a plain language term that simply means the killing of one human being by another! Again with the efforts to derail the thread and run off on a tangent?
I am trying to better understand your position. Many cultures have banned abortion as a means to control women. I want to know if that has anything to do with your thinking. The thread asks should men have an abortion opinion so that is very much in keeping with the context of the thread. The question on Iraq certainly is valid. It establishes what you really believe about life. Do you really value life or only make this stand. If you do not value the lives that are taken in war it makes your stance to protect a fetus from abortion rather suspect. Which would bring me back to the earlier comment. What is the real reason you are against abortion. Being pro life requires consistency and I am trying to determine if you are really pro life or just trying to control women. This is to establish your credibility as an abortion debater.
Well the thread title demonstrates glaring gender bias, but TOWARD men, not BY men. Men should have a say in abortion because we are talking about a homicide here. The only adult people with no potential conflict of interest here are post menopausal women and men. No the Iraq question is clearly off topic. It has nothing whatsoever to do with abortion. I have already told you the real reason I am against abortion. Why should I post it again? So you can ignore it again? Like I said when you resort to trying to attach sinister motives to the other sides' position, it is because you simply cannot support your own. I have never claimed to be pro life. In fact I object to the monikers "pro life" and "pro choice". I think they both miss the mark. The reality is that the people posting here are either pro abortion or anti abortion. I am anti abortion and proud of it! I am not interested in your dishonest and self serving analysis of my position and motives. You lost the debate when you started trying to demonize me instead of supporting your own position.
No you're not. I'm reading your posts. You're just jumping to conclusions that everyone who opposes abortion must be anti-woman. And you're arguing against that strawman instead of what's actually being said.
I know Whaler is not prolife. He is anti abortion so it is all about controlling women. That seems to be what this thread is about. The title asks why males have an abortion opinion. Why do they if not to control women. Thanks for sharing.
How delusional. So if someone is antiabortion that = being antiwoman?....lol. Really? What about the woman who is antiabortion? Is she antiself?
Thank you for admitting that you have no compelling support for your position. You told us all this fact when you veered away from defending your position and began trying to demonize me. Such diversionary tactics are glaring evidence that you cannot support your own stance.
The woman who is anti abortion has every right to make that choice. She is welcome to that decision and I support her choice. But to not support a woman's choice either for or against abortion is to be anti women. When a person riles against abortion and wants to deny or fight against a woman's right to self determination in her medical care and governance of her body is certainly anti woman. Being for women is to accept their choices and allow them that freedom. You and whaler who you seem to defend are both anti woman in your words about control of abortion.
I do support my stance. You are anti woman. Period. You do not have a leg to stand on. If you do not support a woman's right to such a choice you want to control us. That is the entire point. You are a manipulative male and have no other reason to spout off as you do about abortion. You as i mentioned in another thread must feel very small and weak when you can't control what the women do.
You are just driving my point home. "When you can't support your position, DEMONIZE, DEMONIZE, DEMONIZE"
You make no sense. The point is the on;y reason you are anti abortion is to control women. You have yet to prove me wrong with the twaddle you post. You are anti women. Period and feel weak and less because you can't control us. It is a sad state of affairs for you, almost pitiable.
If you want to prevent women from having abortions, and force them to carry unwanted babies, that is anti woman. It is denying women a choice to control their own reproductive systems.
Well we have explained to you repeatedly why that is a lie, but you continue to perpetuate it. Perhaps to blow smoke to cover the weakness in your arguments in support of the homicide of children in utero.
You make my point more obvious with every post. You cannot post any reason that abortion should be allowed, nor can you sing the praises of the almighty abortion, so you try try try to demonize those of us who oppose the horrific practice.
Approximately 50% of the children killed in abortion are girls. I honestly don't see how you could possibly get any more anti-woman than killing future women.
I don't need to explain anything in this thread. You need to explain why men should even have an opinion on abortion. I know that you're not a supporter of life or pro life. I know you have no respect for life. So the only reason that you might have being against abortion is to control women. Other than the control issue what can possibly be your reason since you have no respect for life and you readily justify death in other forms. I don't think a fetus is a person. I do respect life and stand against anything that would take a life. Why do you have an opinion at all.
It is an abortion of a fetus. Why exactly do you have an abortion opinion? What is your stance on life and the protection thereof. Are you against war and the death penalty and abortion for any reason even if the birth would cause the woman to die. Are you against abortion in the case of incest? Tell me just how much respect you have for life. Or are you like whaler and all about control of women.
It has nothing to do with that and you know it. They want to control a womans body and make her a breeding machine. Imagine if women wanted to control mens bodies? There would be outrage.
In actuality, you want to pretend that an abortion is not a homicide to promote the wanton killing of children in utero.
