Why do we need the FBI?

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  1. Bridget

    Bridget Well-Known Member

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    Sincere question. What exactly does FBI do that local law enforcement couldn't? Seems like all I've heard lately is they dabble in politics and try to subvert elections because they think they know better than the people. So how about we save a whole lot of taxpayer money and just disable it? We could reorganize and redirect any tasks they have that are actually essential. I suspect there wouldn't be many of those.
     
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    Joe knows Well-Known Member

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    Before the FBI criminals could jump states and get away with it for the most part. The FBI has been a great law enforcement group and wasn’t really political until recent in my opinion
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The FBI is capable of doing great things..........when they want to.

    The appearance that today's FBI has become political, possibly corrupt, is a friggin shame. If I happened to be in congress, I'd present a bill where democrats and republicans can each assign a person of their choice to see and hear everything the FBI's leadership sees and hears. Same with the DOJ.
     
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    The FBI can do some great things, but the progressives have turned it into a police force that its thumb on the scale of justice in favor of them.

    If a Republican president is elected, he needs to clean house. There is no excuse for the FBI to become a political agency. As it is, the FBI is losing the respect of a large number of the American people, except partisan Democrats.
     
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    Alwayssa Well-Known Member

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    Several things:
    1. FBI investigates crimes on federal property.
    2. Investigate alleged spy rings in the United States
    3. Investigate cybercrime, terrorism activities, civil rights, public corruption, organized crime, and white-collar crime all within the federal jurisdiction. Federal jurisdiction always involves conduct that crosses state lines in the types of crimes I listed.
    4. The FBI crime labs provide assistance to local law enforcement jurisdictions on firearms, drugs, explosives, etc. The labs are world renowned and were the brainchild of someone named J. Edgar Hoover.
    5. They assist local jurisdictions on certain violent crimes such as kidnapping, homicide, bank robberies, etc.

    https://www.fbi.gov/investigate#:~:... agency,access to clinic entrances violations.
    https://www.goldsteinhilley.com/new...ith,and prosecutions in several circumstances.
     
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    Endeavor Well-Known Member

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    The head of the FBI is lifelong Republican, nominated by republican President.

    Last 2 FBI directors were lifelong republican too.

    I am just wondering which progressive FBI director lead FBI in last 15 years?
     
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    Local is local, FBI investigates across states, it's federal.
     
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    Bridget Well-Known Member

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    Maybe just suspend it for like six months, put all the employees on paid leave, and see if anything horrible happens that wouldn't happen if they were there? And then go from there.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please don’t bring facts into this conversation.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why do we need the FBI? To handle pro-lifers that dare stand outside abortion clinics singing hyms. Thats some DANGEROUS stuff. We totally need an organization dedicated to stopping these nasty terrorists that are anti-child sacrifice
     
  11. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We were told Justice Roberts was conservative.

    We were told Biden was a moderate.

    We were told Trump was a liberal.

    Either people changed or they were hiding who they really are.
     
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    You are right about one thing , no one is conservative compare to MAGA crowed. Yet every republican including MAGA crowed voted for Reagan ( twice) , Bush H, BUSH W ( twice) , McCain and Romney.
     
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    I thought republicans were against “defunding the police”? upload_2023-6-16_9-52-13.jpeg
     
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    https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianb...cktail-at-planned-parenthood/?sh=45aa77573ebc

    Yep! Totally harmless!
     
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    19Crib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Homosexuals call that a "beard".
    When I used to bid state of Calif jobs, I registered as a democrat. Gotta cover your bases.
    Party identification means nothing.
     
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    The FBI has become extraordinarily dangerous to our Constitutional Liberal Democracy. The FBI crime lab is worth saving, the rest should be rolled into the Marshall's Service.

    They are interfering with the 3rd national election in a row. They buried the Biden Bribery docs for three years, yet opened Crossfire Hurricane based on a bar conversation with a low level Trumper, following up with the Dossier, which Biden and Obama knew came out of the Drunken Hillary Campaign.

    Then they announced the arrest of Biden's political opponent, who is leading him in the polls, on the day that Congress was examining the FBI's Biden Bribery Doc that they had kept buried for 3 years. Now here is what is astounding. The Lying Fake News Media has buried the Biden Bribery and it's been Trump Indictment 24/7, but, folks still are aware of the Biden Bribery and majority of Americans realize that Biden is both corrupt and bribed.

    Majority of Americans realize that Biden engaged in bribery

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    'a majority of Americans are not only aware of the allegations regarding Biden, but they understand that the Biden family did indeed receive cash payments from foreign nationals.'

    '53.3% of respondents believed that the Biden family had accepted bribes from foreign officials, while 34% indicated that they believed in the family’s innocence.'

    Looking between those numbers, less than 23% answered that they didn't know or wouldn't say. Over 75% of Americans have heard about it and made up their minds.

    As a result of the ongoing Congressional investigation into Hunter Biden, do you believe the Biden family received payments from foreign nationals to influence policy in Washington, D.C.?”

    Watch the lefties posting here try to maintain the fiction that their view in the mainstream accepted version. And that's why so many Leftists try to control everyone's speech, they want to pretend that that their narrow extreme partisan view is the only view held by most Americans. It's the Truth, not disinformation that this so dangerous these folks.

    Independents? 'They believed that the Bidens received such payments by a 50 to 29 margin, with 21% either being unsure or not answering. Calls for the full release of the documents to the public continue, but thus far the FBI is refusing to comply. The Bureau recently released an internal memo for its own people explaining why they need to refuse congressional oversight in the interest of protecting “confidential human sources.” They might be facing some pushback within their own ranks.'
     
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    But that was before the age of the internet and a million cameras literally everywhere.
     
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    Apparently the FBI is needed to go after political opponents.
     
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    Local LE investigates crimes which happen locally, while FBI can extend their investigation to cover multiple States. This is why they are called to investigate terrorism, organized crime operating in multiple States, cyber crime, WMDs, counterfeiting, and any crimes which involve investigation in more than one State. They also study crime, like serial killers so it will be easier to track them down.

    So, yea, such agency is needed, even though populist propaganda outlets work overtime to undermine them, and turn public opinion against them even though they are only doing their job.

    It is currently ran by a Republican appointee, but people are not happy FBI is investigating the crimes committed by their beloved political icon. If they refused to investigate it then they would indeed be corrupt, but fortunately they are looking into it like they did with Hillary. The accusations against the FBI are borderline absurd and promoted only by hardcore Trump apologists.
     
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    It would not matter, because local LE wold not have authority to make an arrest in another State.
     
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    The point being... it is not what they ARE investigating as much as it is what they ARE NOT investigating...
     
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    The partisan complaint is that they should not look into actions of Trump. What are they not investigating? They investigated Hillary long and hard. They investigated Hunter. Who else do you want them to investigate and why?

    Modern day pseudo-cons are textbook examples of people who suffer from victim mentality, which is why they think there is some kind of conspiracy against them every time their crimes are looked into. The only way to keep them from complaining would be to grant them full immunity from the law, but that's impossible for the obvious reasons.
     
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    and they answer to who? Garland.
     
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    All Republicans. Heck Comey all but destroyed Hillarys chances by declaring to re-open the investigation against her only few days before the election. Was it because Obama told FBI to do that because they wanted Trump to win? Nonsense. FBI does what it does, and not everything boils down to a conspiracy (unless you are a pseudo-con, of course)
     
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    Correct. The FBI has always been political, and has always aligned itself with the prevailing preferences of the ruling political class.

    "Given the FBI’s history of insinuating itself into presidential campaigns, this latest October surprise shouldn’t have been any surprise at all.

    As early as 1919, Woodrow Wilson’s attorney general, the progressive A. Mitchell Palmer, deployed bureau agents in an eponymous operation to round up and deport alleged radical immigrants. The Palmer Raids were ostensibly a response to a series of bombings, but it became apparent that Palmer had had something more in mind when he threw his hat into the ring for the 1920 Democratic presidential nomination and ran on a proto-Trumpian agenda of “undiluted Americanism.” Palmer didn’t get past the first ballot, however, and ultimately the raids’ most lasting impact was Palmer’s decision to have his young assistant administer the arrests. The official, whose own youthful ambition earned him the nickname “Speed,” was 24-year-old J. Edgar Hoover.

    The director quickly realized the way to keep his job was to make himself indispensable to FDR. Wiretapping was a relatively new investigative tool, and as it turned out Roosevelt was eager to use it against his political opponents on the left and right."
    THE NATION, This Is Not the First Time the FBI Has Interfered With a Presidential Election, By Jeff Kisseloff, October 31, 2016.
    https://www.thenation.com/article/a...-has-interfered-with-a-presidential-election/

    Trump probably assumed that winning the election in 2016 would put the FBI and the rest of our secret police/spy agencies in his corner.
    When it comes to politics Trump has been a very slow learner. It may take a few years in Leavenworth for him to finally catch on.
     
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