Why do we need the FBI?

Looking at the entire cast of clowns surrounding his corrupt and senile successor, President Puddinwitz, I can't say that is either good or an improvement. In fact, it's much worse.

As they say, out of the frying pan and into the fire....

 

Does anyone give a S%%%? Have someone from your side run and get 270 EC vote or no one give a sh## what GOP thinks about Biden.

 

Oh, dear. I seem to have struck a nerve.

 

The answer, in my view, is that we don't need the FBI. State and local police are capable of investigating breeches of federal laws. But they should bill federal government for the work. Perhaps it will result in fewer federal laws. I can get behind that.

 

Despite its many current flaws, the FBI has been able to provide advanced crime detection technology to state and local police forces.

It has not always been perfect. I remember about 20+ years ago when the FBI got called on the carpet for some shoddy work which jeopardized some court cases. This is one more reason why the agency needs a competent director.

 

Have you heard of the concept, "rights of the minority?" It is issue that has concerned those who study problems with democracy since the framers wrote the constitution.

I'm sure that a lot people didn't give a "bowel movement" about the rights of African-Americans in the 19th and well into the 20th centuries. Since they are a minority of the population, was that a reason to ignore their concerns? How about the Japanese whom FDR sent to internment camps during World War II?

Be careful when you trample on the rights of minorities. Someday you might be one.

 

The FBI has access to a lot of resources that regular law enforcement like the police don't.

 

We were founded as a union of states, not a powerful central government with provinces. A national police force doesn't fit the model. Perhaps that is why we didn't have one prior to the 1920's. I'm all for sharing crime fighting technology but it doesn't belong in federal government.

 

Are you suggesting you don’t have to get 270 EC to be POTUS? If not then as I said no one give a S$$$ what GOP thinks about Biden. As long as Biden can get 270 EC in 2024 he will be in WH!

 

I would much, much rather still have a dumb POTUS than be paying pert near double for groceries like we are now. I'm shocked you don't feel the same.

 

I'm shocked you don't realize the dumb POTUS is the reason for high prices. Thank God he left in Jan 2021. What did you think was going to happen when he burned $6 trillion in 2020?

 

That was handled poorly, at least in hindsight... BUT...

We were at war with Japan. And I don't mean some sort of proxy war like we had in Korea, Vietnam, and some would even say Ukraine, we were at a real declared war with a major world power. Is it really that stupid to segregate people from there away from where they might be able to spy on the US on behalf of that hostile world power? If we were to get into a hot shooting war with China tomorrow, do you think it would be wise to allow Chinese nationals, especially those who are not at least legal residents if not full-blown citizens (and perhaps of some reasonable standing at that) to be allowed to do as they please within our borders?

It's a given that there are spies in our country, just as we have them all over the world in other places, but we're not currently at war with anyone, much less someone so readily identifiable as being a possible/probable spy, and/or with hostile intent to the United States?

 

LOL - There's nothing quite like literally paying for your own mistake, is there.

I never cease to be amused by the irrational spectacle of Lefties/Dems slapping themselves in the face while they tell us how great it is.

 

One of the problems with open borders is that undocumented Chinese nationals are getting into this country. People of Chinese descent who live here are probably 99% good, but these new people are a concern. How were they able to escape China and come here?

 

John Hamilton, why did you avoid the question?

 

That's a very interesting question, Bridget, and while the FBI was no paragon of virtue under J. Edgar Hoover, I would submit that the problems we're experiencing with the Bureau are consistent with the larger problem we're having with our extraconstitutional 4th branch of government - the federal bureaucracy - that has exploded in size since the 1960s and has become a power and law unto itself. This problem, even more so than the particular problem we are having with the FBI (or its leadership), is one that we are just beginning to grapple with, and unless something decisive is done soon it is likely to get exponentially worse in the future (and I expect it will).

Let's take a look at the larger picture, shall we?

While I was not a fanboy of the late Supreme Court justice Antonin Scalia, he made a profoundly disturbing observation shortly before his death that continues to strike me:

The language in our laws no longer matter.

That is a shocking statement, particularly coming from a Supreme Court justice, and let's contemplate that for a moment.

What are the implications and consequences of the meaningless of the language in the laws of a constitutional republic that was instituted to be governed by the rule of written law?

Obviously, if the language in our laws no longer matter, we are no longer a constitutional republic governed by the rule of law, we are a banana republic governed by the arbitrary fiat of public officials.

So, I ask you and everyone else here, what is the point of paying for the ruinously expensive charade that is going on in Washington?

What is the point of having a federal government at all? For the "benefit" of having the nomenklatura and apparatchiks in DC relieve us of our individual freedom and money?

If we're just going to wing it, far better, to be rid of not only the FBI but the federal government and save ourselves the expense of this mockery of a travesty of a sham.

Perhaps, it's time to admit that the Anti-Federalists were right and the Federalist experiment has reached its dead end, and good riddance to bad rubbish. Perhaps, it's time to reorganize our government, return power to the local level and invest a limited amount of tasks and powers, such as national defense, to a limited centralized power.

LOL - And we know that will never happen. Too many greedy people depend on the coercive and redistributive power of the State for their own selfish purposes - power, wealth, control over others, etc.

PS. For those of us who don't read History books, there was a reason why the ordinary people in Ancient Greece and Rome had their laws codified into written law during the formative years of Western Civilization - e.g. Draco's Code and the Twelve Tablets - to destroy the rule of arbitrary fiat that the oligarchs had used to bind ordinary people in chains for centuries.

 

Well 81 million people feel differently then you, , no one give a sh$$ how people feel about a President unless those feeling can convert to 270 EC vote.

 

What question did I ignore?

 

"i only hire the best people" trump

 

Your opinion on that matter is uninformed.

J. Edgar's abuses are well documented. The FBI's malfeasance in arresting "terrorists" is well documented.

 

Um... Well, first off, I blame the current administration for the inflation, which makes sense in light of the gross and completely unnecessary additional round of free money for everyone, the 'bipartisan' infrastructure plan, the efforts to cripple the petroleum industry, and his further attempts to continue the pandemic levels of spending, and then some, in the form of 'Build Back Bankrupt' and other spending wishlists. In prior genuine emergencies like WWII, spending went up massively, but after it was over, it went back down, which has not and will not happen this time, sadly.

Now, as for 2020, I think we were facing a potentially catastrophic and dare I say it, possible extinction level event, so I can understand spending like a drunken sailor. That doesn't mean I like it, but I understand it, just as I understand why spending went up so much in WWII. However, in many ways that spending was simply replacing money that had been destroyed due to stock losses, business shutterings, and so forth, so it's effects were limited from an inflationary perspective. However, unlike after WWII when we actually cut our spending once it was over, Biden just doubled down and made the problem even worse!! What we should do is go back to like the 1998 budget (picked mostly at random, nothing particularly special about 199, index it for inflation and population growth (perhaps, or maybe not), and use that as our baseline for the next one, but sadly that won't happen.

What will happen is in 50-75 years, perhaps a bit longer, our entire budget/debt/economy/t-bills will implode, we will either outright default or just pay bonds back with freshly created case, diluting it's value dramatically, and a lot of people are gonna get hurt. All because we insist on spending uncountable trillions trying to get the 11% of the country who are 'poor' into a better place, but they either can't or don't want to help themselves, so it's a futile exercise.

I'm more worried about the people who didn't 'escape', but who are here on orders from their superiors, be it actual members of their military playing civilian, or spy agencies and the like. You are correct insofar that a majority of those of Chinese descent (in this example), even first generation immigrants, are not someone to worry about, but there is a significant number who are. And there is not a good way to tell them apart.

 

Of course you do. The rest of us undersand that burning $6 trillion in 2020 and the global shutdowns played a massive part in monetary inflation and supply side inflation.

Of course. The industry is cripples, which is why we are producing at record levels.

How much did you receive? I didn't receive anything, so I guess I am not part of the 'everyone'.

During WW2 we needed money to fund the war, but in 2020 we were sending checks to people with the presidents name on it. I would have understood if the checks went to those who lost their jobs, but no, - everyone got one.

Heck, even the Fed said in 2020 that there will be inflation in 2021. It was so obvious. Did Bidens stimulus contribute to it? Of course it did, but most was triggered by money creation in 2020 and supply side issues due to global shutdowns.

 

Until he finds out they aren’t.

 

Looks like a "dumpster fire" to me... which pretty much describes the present corrupt and lawless Biden administration...

""he can't even appoint a FBI director.".... But he sure knows when to fire one though.....I'ma bettin' Trump won't make that selection mistake twice..... after removing the whole seventh floor the pickin's will be more manageable.... fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me...

 

If the FBI is inhabited by supposed Republicans....fire them anyway. See I'm always fair.

Seems like we've come to take for granted that all these 3 letter agencies have ALWAYS been around and what would we do without them? When in truth many of them haven't been around for that long in the overall scheme of things. We should try doing without them and if we miss them we can start over build them back better!