Why doesn't socialism work?

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  1. hellofromwarsaw

    hellofromwarsaw Well-Known Member

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    Well that's too bad. You must be an American LOL. worst thing I have said about you is that you are one of millions and millions of misinformed English speakers. Outside of your misunderstanding of socialism I agree with everything you say basically.
     
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    At this point Republican politicians are stooges because all they care about is cutting taxes on the rich and screwing everybody else as much as possible. We need Democrats in power with real power again for the first time since LBJ really. Obama had 60 votes for 35 days in session and we got Obamacare. The best thing that has happened to the non-rich since Medicare and Medicaid. The GOP appears to be run by Rupert Murdoch these days. Garbage propaganda in other words. And the radio demagogues who are even worse
     
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    As far as I'm concerned, the French are much smarter politically than Americans. the richest country in the world and no living wage health Care daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training great infrastructure and vacations. Every other rich country has all of that. communism!!!
     
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    Huh? I would have been fired in France or Italy if I believe in democracy?
     
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    We are still talking about the definition of socialism. I said you would be fired 20 years ago for praising socialism. And differentiated it from communism. In other words for treating it like non-english speakers in the modern world do and did.
     
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    Knowing the right definition might have saved us from destroying society in Iran Chile Argentina Guatemala El Salvador Nicaragua etc etc. The good old anti-socialist covert action.
     
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    Generally true although I'm not sure it's as true at the moment.
    Trump had better keep the deaths down and the economy afloat or he'll be toast.
    AM radio has become a sewer.
     
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    Boy, I don't think so.
     
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    You don't much care for historians---too much unvarnished truth. :)
     
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    They are. Not my kind of collective production.
    Simply not the case. Marxist-Leninists aren't overly popular in many countries, especially those that suffered from direct exposure.
     
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    I appear to have a better understanding of the anglo-american slant. What are you referring to anyway? why are English-speaking countries the only ones who don't have socialist parties? Pretty damn obvious.
     
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    Of course not. But they also understand that socialism is different if they are not English speakers.
    Of course not. why are English-speaking countries the only ones who don't have major parties that call themselves socialists?
     
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    You just love standing up for English speaking misinformation. Bernie Sanders and everyone who calls himself a socialist wants no association with marxist-leninists or communists. Nobody is for marxist-leninism or communism anymore without a gun to their head -that's why your confusion and conflation of the terms is so ridiculous.
     
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    The failure to educate K-12 is responsible.
     
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    Cable news is pathetic just pundits sitting around arguing. And Fox news is a total disgrace conspiracy theories phony scandals hateful misinformation and worse. I think high School is fine. We have colleges where they can get serious. Are you are probably right history should be better. It's homogenized and pasteurized is my experience.

    of course the schools in the war zones in the inner city don't do very well and bring down the averages
     
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    One of us is misinformed and it isn't me.
     
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    France Italy Spain Scandinavia Germany etc etc Know what a socialist is. English-speaking conservatives are are especially confused.
     
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    They don't generate enough revenue because there are so many "news" outlets (if you could call the infotainment slop "news") to do much beyond taking a video feed and then having the blabbing talking heads spew nonsense.
    You have to be dumber than a sack of hammers to take Fox News seriously.
    I don't. Students arrive in history courses with the idea the deal is they memorize-and-forget. That didn't work in my class. They had to know, understand, and use what they were tasked with knowing.
    They can get serious in high school.
    It's too often taught by unmotivated teachers as a bunch of facts, never pointing out why any of it is important.
    Those kids can succeed if they get good instruction.
     
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    It also helps if they live in a successful society. What a mess.
     
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    There are very progressive places in America--San Francisco, Seattle, New York--but most of the country is, well, unsophisticated.
     
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    We were messing around in Central and South America long before Marxists had any influence.
     
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    Canada had and has socialist parties. What happened to your theory?
     
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    Canada.
     
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    You were talking about socialists who aren't communists. When I pointed out Canada has such folk, you come up with this nonsense (see above).

    You're like the guy with one foot nailed to the floor trying to walk forward.
     
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    Again, you keep referring to banks and bankers... I'm talking about the Central Bankers.

    Answer me this, can you think of any reason why the United States would commit terrorist acts against innocent citizens in Europe resulting in hundreds of deaths??

    Which would make more sense?? - a deliberate stock market crash, or committing terrorist acts against innocent allied populations??
     

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