Why Is Germany a Superpower 70 Years After It Was Dust?

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  1. Hjalmar Thorsson

    Hjalmar Thorsson Banned

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    and the land and natural resources? Who has more?
     
  2. IgnoranceisBliss

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    The United States.
     
  3. Awryly

    Awryly New Member Past Donor

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    The Germans don't tout themselves as a master race for no reason.

    Soon they will own Europe.

    Again.
     
  4. clarkatticus

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    A super power? They cannot project their military power out of Europe. Their manufacturing base is as large as it's going to get and they depend heavily on trade with the EU and the fact they are the dominant power (economically and militarily) in the EU, but they have no ability to challenge Russia. They have a small, well trained, well equipped armed forces, virtually no navy and a defensive air force. They have logically built their armed forces to cover the needs of their defense. They have a prudent form of government that is both socialist and capitalist that represents the needs of their electorate, their business is well regulated and it's workers well trained, but not as productive as American workers, arguably the most productive in the world.
     
  5. Anobsitar

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    Money is an illusion - while the same time a lack of this illusion can cause destruction, hunger and death. Mankind means sometimes madkind.

    http://youtu.be/U93MVGaPL8o
     
  6. IgnoranceisBliss

    IgnoranceisBliss Well-Known Member

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    Haha, in this case "money" is measured as the productive output of a given country. That productivity isn't an illusion though the measurement of it may exist only in good faith. When this "illusion" of yours breaks down what remains?

    Raw, brute, force.
     
  7. Anobsitar

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    Sure it is an illusion. Someone is able to make a good work for no money for example. Take van Gogh as an example. His productivity and creativity was unbelievable high - while his poorness forced him to poison his nerves and mental structure with the cheepeast wine and cheapest colors - so he lost even his sane mind in the end.

    Goethe said once "Gold is as mighty on earth as we imagine god in the universe". Without the gigantic mass of gold the native American cultures had found perhaps a better way to survive. Their gold was their problem. Rawness, brutality and violence are coming because of greed and gold attracts greedy criminals.

    http://youtu.be/DD1ih3Q9otE
     
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    Because they found the true meaning of Christmas. Oh and also because they're gay
     
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    The Germans are successful because they deregulated things like product safety, abandoned universal health care and stopped subsidizing higher education.

    Just kidding.
     
  10. Paris

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    I seriously doubt you will find a majority of Germans who tout themselves as a master race today.

    But keep trying to scare the kids.

    Again.
     
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    How many countries have they invaded since the end of WW2?
    There's your answer.
     
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    What the hell am I reading?
     
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    LOL@"again"

    They never owned Europe.

    (and there is a reason no one "touts" the Germans as the master race except other Germans, LOL)
     
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    This.

    That pretty much sums it up.
     
  16. IgnoranceisBliss

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    You're being whimscial. I'm not here to argue philosophy. This debate coud be a1000 pages long without scratching the service. Lets get back on topic.
     
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    There's zero correlation. The U.S. has invaded more than a few during that period and is more economically, militarily, and politically influential.
     
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    Wrong way around: the US uses its taxes on arms rather than helping its people, so it is very heavily armed, so its special interests can make its government attack other countries for their profit
     
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    I would be inclined to agree with you except the the war in Iraq was not very profitable. I would have been much happier if we went ahead and stole the oil, at least we wouldn't look like a bunch of idiots (politically). We should have razed Afghanistan and bombed them from afar instead of rebuilding the (*)(*)(*)(*) place and never set a foot in Iraq. It would be hard to find a recent war where we actually made a profit. No, Iolo, try not to over think American politics, sometimes we are just dumb. On the flip side, our military has and deserves great respect, not just it's ability to fight, but it's overall conduct.
     
  20. Anobsitar

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    Or with other words: It's more easy to follow the selfmade laws of deadly illusions.

    http://youtu.be/b3ef4d7qGUk
     
  21. IgnoranceisBliss

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    Yet less than 5 percent of its GDP goes to arms expenditures. And most of those "expenditures" go to health care, retirement, training, and the salaries of military members.
     
  22. Iolo

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    Well, you seem to have got the whole world conned on that then: they all believe you are the most heavily armed State in history, and that you spend extremely little proportionately on anyone's welfare. Congratulations: you must have the cleverest progagandists in history!
     
  23. IgnoranceisBliss

    IgnoranceisBliss Well-Known Member

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    Use numbers and evidence please.
     
  24. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why should I? It is in your weird country they use numbers and evidence (all totally made up) to deny evolution, global warming and their President's nationality. Go play in another street, lad. You bore me.
     
  25. IgnoranceisBliss

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    Haha, your hatred bleeds your posts. Try to be objective and use a little reasoning. Only an emotional creature such as yourself would suggest that all Americans deny evolution, global warming, or the Presidents nationality.

    I could claim all British people have horrible teeth and like to colonize everyone....but that would be just as stupid as your statements.
     

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