Why Is Germany a Superpower 70 Years After It Was Dust?

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  1. Sadistic-Savior

    Sadistic-Savior New Member Past Donor

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    Exactly...our supplies were critical in that they could not have even fought the war without them. That is certainly true of Russia, and maybe the UK as well.


    I dont mean this sarcastically (really), but what critical role did they actually play in the Pacific? From what I know about the war, the US basically soloed the Japanese.
     
  2. Sadistic-Savior

    Sadistic-Savior New Member Past Donor

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    LOL!

    I can only imagine how that must have pissed them off.
     
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    Sadistic-Savior New Member Past Donor

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    It was correct of you to put "won" in quotes...though you probably should have put "wars" in quotes as well.


    It is also not an actual nation. France and Britain are not the same as Texas and California. We have a unified economy, policy, and leadership.

    The EU is more like NATO+.
     
  4. Dr Cosmo

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    Maybe 30 years ago.

    LEARN:

    European Union
     
  5. IgnoranceisBliss

    IgnoranceisBliss Well-Known Member

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    How do you figure that Europe has overtaken the U.S. economically? Combining dozens of countries with a population almost twice what the U.S. is and "counting" it as a single country is ridiculous. The "Eurozones" GDP per capita is much lower than in the United States and the Eurozone has nothing like the political and economic solidarity the 50 states do. I keep hearing this from Europeans and find it amusing.
     
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    Yeah, it is weird how Europeans keep pretending the EU is like a country. It isnt. I dont need any kind of passport to go to Texas or Wyoming...I can cross any border at will. All the states are subject to one Constitution, and the military is seamlessly integrated.
     
  7. Dr Cosmo

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    Haha You havent been in the EU, do you !

    LEARN Again:

    European Union

    I do have an EU passport, an EU driving license, an EU health insurance card, my exchange study program was financed with EU credits. I go voting for an EU parliament and travel without bordercontrol.

    Wait, I forgot, I pay all my bills with EU money and with my taxes I finance weaker member countries....
     
  8. Dr Cosmo

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    Germany´s true superpower ;)

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  9. Clint Torres

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    Interesting. The EU is much like Asia, but with one currency. You have countries that are economicaly and politicaly solid and others that want to be, but lack the culture and evolution to acheive their goals.

    Some think Germany has suddenly become a superpower after 70 years. Not so.

    Germany has been on the top of the Europe food chain when it comes to economics, politics and culture for the past 50 years and more so over the past 20. Germany just goes under the radar when it comes to peoples knowledge. It's just history writers, and media talking heads don't mention them because they have a long standing dislike for Germany as a competitor and try to keep the image of German WWII alive to bolster seperation not unity. In other words, Germany's success makes the other EU contries look infeirior as a whole. That is what other EU countries feel, but you will never here them admit it.

    And if you're jewish immigrant in the USA, the Jewish owneers and editors of media keeps Germany in the shadows so the jewish can continue to play victim and use it to gain sympathy and an excuse for their short-comming, and to paint all Germans as evil., as well as create a deamon image of Germany.

    Now that the other countries of the EU are broke (excluding France), they some how look at Germany, and realize, Germans have money and are better off than the rest of the EU. Oooo what a supprise.

    Now just apply this to all the countries and cultures that the broadcast media an history classess don't talk about, and you will see that the surpression of information is not a good thing. But that is only if you have the ability to make analysis. And if you read and understand through this you have the ability. However, If you are a simple person and only look at the simple way of everything. Forget it, FOX news is a good source of information, they dumb it down well.

    A Countries' actions and people's behavior show what is realy going on, not what they say or preach.
     
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    We can't deny Germany is a powerhouse. Poor in natural resources (but not in tillable land), Germany is a powerhouse on the world stage. Germans have among the highest standard of living on the planet these days- they are at the top of the Euro food chain, they have a solid reputation for making good stuff and they work hard to export as much stuff as possible- all with the "Mark of Germany" on it.

    If they got this way because we bombed the shiite out of them then bomb away at America- blow everything up then rebuild it new with foreign dollars- which is what Germany had.
     
  11. Clint Torres

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    I'm not for apocolyptic religious BS propaganda. But the reason the USA is broke, has been because of the past 12 years of bad government management, 2 wars, the military industrial complex, and other corporate monopolies infiltrating the US Government, and sucking tax revenue dry. If you change the politics and people (not just the president [he is just a puppet]) in washington, from ex corporate executives and former corporate lobbiest, to real people who have a history of serving their country (and not corporations), America can dig it self out of the whole it's in.

    But untill that happens, it will alwasy be buisness as usual. Because big fat corporate money will always dominate human behavior. And as long as there are people who can pay taxes, I don't see any corporations unlatching itself from the Federal and State governments.

    Trickle up unemployment and poverty are the only things that will get corporate monopolies off the backs of tax payers. And we still got a long way to go.
     
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    Quite correct. Germany was already the largest exporter in the world during the 1980ies.

    The image of Germany though is to my knowledge only in some parts of the less educated US population tainted with WW2 history. Globally and even more so in Europe, Germany is highly respected, almost seen as a model. BTW, the exclusively national perspective of some here in the forum is not shared in the German politics, economic elite or the population. The decicive governing class is well aware of the interdependence and the responisbilies that come with the strong position in Europe.
     
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    LOL

    Rooting for the underdog is something that is intrinsic to American culture. We are not afraid of competition in the way that the Socialists of Europe are. We celebrate ambition (what socialists would call "greed") as a virtue. That is seen as a good thing here.

    Jews are quintessentially capitalists, and capitalism is as American as Apple Pie.
     
  14. Anobsitar

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    ¿Homo sapiens or homo sexual? I hate such a typical male nonsense since I was a child and I guess I will hate it until the moment of my death. Why are some men so unbelieveable stupid?

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwvLiROLJf0"]Herbert Grönemeyer - Der Weg (Live-ORF) - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    The Germans are electronic gods. That's why.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTjxhKmyL50"]Pet Shop Boys & Sam Taylor-Wood - I'm In Love With A German Film Star (Gui Boratto Mix) - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    I spoke about the roman empire of german nation. "German" is in this context a similiar expression like "united". His title was: Karl V., von Gottes Gnaden erwählter römischer Kaiser, zu allen Zeiten Mehrer des Reichs, in Germanien, zu Spanien, beider Sizilien, Jerusalem, Ungarn, Dalmatien, Kroatien, der Balearen, der kanarischen und indianischen Inseln sowie des Festlands jenseits des Ozeans König, Erzherzog von Österreich, Herzog von Burgund, Brabant, Steier, Kärnten, Krain, Luxemburg, Limburg, Athen und Patras, Graf von Habsburg, Flandern, Tirol, Pfalzgraf von Burgund, Hennegau, Pfirt, Rousillion, Landgraf im Elsaß, Fürst in Schwaben, Herr in Asien und Afrika.

    Karl V. was the leader of a superpower. The Germany of today is a joke compared with this empire.

    http://youtu.be/E_OvT3Qm45E
     
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    Makes this sentence any sense?

    http://youtu.be/m1nJT5z7W5E
     
  18. IgnoranceisBliss

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    Admiring women makes someone stupid? The broad generalizations and venom you spew makes it clear you are no fan of heterosexual men.
     
  19. Leo2

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    I think you are correct to state that all (heterosexual) males have a natural response to the female form - a response which is raised (pun intended) if that form is naked.

    However, while I would not presume to speak for another poster, I think what he meant to convey was a disdain for the repeated statement of the obvious. The constant assertion of what is a perfectly natural animal response becomes tiresome, and engenders suspicion of the motives behind such repeated assertions. Is someone attempting to establish a higher degree of masculinity by constantly drawing attention to an obvious attraction? Is there an element of "The lady doth protest too much, methinks!" involved?

    Who knows, but the practice can, at times, be tedious. Blind Freddy can see that 'hot chicks' are attractive, do we need our attention constantly drawn to that fact? :bored:
     
  20. Clint Torres

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    You all have a good socialist system that seems to function very well. As I can see, your government actually runs the government and the country without much capitalization of your own people and government. What people don't understand in the US is socialism can work well if the government does what is best for the country as a whole and not sell out to corporate for profit. Less intelligent Americans, view the lable "socialism" as a bad thing. Mainly because our government is heavly influenced by corporate monopolies and the media industry. As a result, the USA is not able to impliment any form of socialism without facism influincing it. As a result, the USA government puts corporation interest and profit before the country and people of the USA.

    It's like having a wife and kids and putting them third in the priority list. Not a good system at all.

    Not may countries have females as their head of State. Your's is an example that others can learn from.
     
  21. IgnoranceisBliss

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    He asserted that such an "overfondness" for women was an indicator of someone being "unbelievably stupid." I think its ridiculous to judge someone's intelligence based on their lust. There are been more than a fair share of highly intelligent men (politicians/scientists/doctors) who have compromised common sense for sex.

    You make a fair point about people asserting their masculiness through sexuality. However, I think the neutral bleached outlook some people (especially femminists) tend to have today is a little silly and ignores human nature. The venom in his post was a clear indicator of such a mindset in my opinion.
     
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    Pictures of undraped females does not make a case for Germany being a superpower.
     
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    This guy is comparing the GDP of the two countries when the U.S. has about 5 times the population of Germany, not to mention about 26 times more land, and many more resources. Get a clue.
     
  24. IgnoranceisBliss

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    The U.S. GDP per capita is 17.5% higher than Germany's.
     
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    Before 2009, Germany had tolerated unemployment 4% higher than that in the US and had done so for decades. Even before East Germany combined, West Germany had high structural unemployment.

    After the euro takes their banks down, it may be higher once again.
     

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