Why is sex and language censored?

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  1. usa_students123

    usa_students123 Banned

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    This is for 2 reasons. One is that America has puritanistic traditions and puritans were rather control freaks (rapists?) than sex artists, the other reason is that there is most likely some special interest money involved in monopolizing air time for the kind of programming available today pushing out all other ideas including sex.
     
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    CanadianEye Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think they did do the FCC censorship. As per usual the Dems snuck it in on christmas eve or something. LIke the healthcare bill. Or maybe it was the death panels they snuck in. So much crap they do like that.

    Anyways, I believe the TEA Party, and some scared RINOs are looking to smack it down, now that they are in.

    Regarding the sex and language...You tell me if you like what you see in the product out there, the youth today. If you think more is better on what they feed on now...well, then know this.:

    They are only a reflection of all of us. Personally, I'm ashamed.
     
  3. the big ragu

    the big ragu New Member

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    saturday mornings, with sugar pops....
    i'm not talking about movies at the theatre....
    i'm talking about television programming, and children....
    there are standards, in place, the op belittles these standards as prudent, i do not....
    setting standards does NOT diminish free speech as some suggest....
    free speech has always been, and will always be....regulated
    this is accepted practice, by law and statute....

    your position is hypocritical, if you do state regulations at ANY level....
    the next op will proclaim the same premise that at that next level,
    because at some point, somewhere, some type of regulation IS warranted.....
    you make my point!!!!

    my children shouldn't have to be able to see tits and ass on tv while eating their fruity pebbles on saturday morning.....
    and you know as well as i do, tits and ass sells, so inevitably thats what we'll be seeing....and it is morally wrong...
    you wanna buy it, buy it, i don't care, but not on my airwaves, not in my country, not corrupting my kids.....
    have you no decency?
     
  4. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

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    So you don't believe in personal responsibility as a parent? You are too lazy to implement parental control and define what your children are and are not allowed to see so you want your government nanny state to do it for you.

    If you don't like what your children are watching here'a a clue: Don't let them watch it.
     
  5. the big ragu

    the big ragu New Member

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    television advertising?
    so the price i have to pay for the freedoms of speech that you deem will make us freer, is NO TV....

    lets take it to the next level, billboards along the highway, profanity also needed because you deem them neceessary, now to shield my children as a parent, no rides in the car....okay...
    on the way to school, no regulations to free speech, can't send my kids to school, again trying to protect my children.....
    advertising on the internet.....okay...no internet....
    where's does it end, at what point do you set a standard.....
    because once again, you are going to have to.....

    what a country, to shield my kids, they'll never be able to leave the house......
     
  6. Montoya

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    How are "tits and ass" morally wrong? Maybe by your morals but not by mine. If you don't want your kids to see this stuff fine, take some initiative and be a parent. If I had kids and I saw no problem with them seeing "tits and ass" thats my choice. It would be up to me and me alone to explain what they are seeing. But we seem to still have this "lets shelter our kids forever" mentality.
     
  7. Questerr

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    Don't you think for a second that the Free Market can regulate these things? If people disapprove the advertising on a channel, they will stop watching it, then the channel will lose money, and the adverts will be dropped or another company will be created to take advantage of that channel's lost marketshare.

    That model applies to every single one of those scenarios you brought up save the Internet and people talking on the street, but there isn't anything you can do about either of those.
     
  8. the big ragu

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    exactly "if i had kids".....
    you don't, and i do, this isn't about parenting, you wanna buy girls gone wild and show it to your 8 year old daughter, be my guest...
    it shouldn't be programmed on ABC, weekday mornings.....
    should i quit my job, to be full time tv regulator, or should society have some modicum of morality.....
    have you no decency?
     
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    Most providers have a rating system for shows and almost all cable boxes have parental controls that let you restrict what ratings your kids can and can't see. Turn them on. Seriously dude, personal parental responsibility.
     
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    Upon what do you base this belief?
     
  11. Jack Ridley

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    Or, you can throw away your TV.

    Or, you could let your kid look at this:

    (.)(.)
     
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    But (and this reminds me of something someone said) by making the lowest common denominator the default for all of society YOU are making the decision for everyone else.
     
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    I think the responses in the thread have answered the question in the thread title.

    Sex and language are censored because some people want it that way.
     
  14. Jack Ridley

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    Go get a klystron and broadcast your own TV.

    Electrical Engineering is (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)in', man. You might even make money in a free market!
     
  15. the big ragu

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    i am free market,
    and sex sells, that is why speech in this case IS regulated....
    free market does not apply in this situation, tv programming is not excludable if it is transmitted over the airwaves, its also not rival so a private transmission over the airwaves, which is legally our airwaves can and should be regulated.....
    there are many example of when "free market" fails, this is one such case.....
    its similar to the tragedy of commons, but its not as easy to remand....thats the problem!
    the excludability comes at the end of the transmission, but if there is no regulation, the receiver will not be able to cut off the transmission untill after the viewer sees the act, or hears the word or whatever....
    you dudes profess no regulation which is hypocritical, and neither of you will give me the fact that some regulation IS needed, at some point in this process....

    so this saturday morning when i'm watching sponge bob, and sponge bob says to squidworth, (*)(*)(*)(*) off or suck my dick, or whatever profanity you proclaim makes us freer, and i get up, and shut off the tv, and then explain to my 5 year old son, and 8 year old daughter the meaning of life, and go into school and explain to the principal that johhny is a good boy, he shouldn't be suspended for using profanity, and now my johnny becomes labeled as the brute, developes a negative self-image, drops out of high school.....
    you guys can chalk that up to my lazy, poor parenting.....
     
  16. Daybreaker

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    On the fact that no matter what they put on television, you can not watch it. Right?

    So, by attempting to control what's on the airwaves, you aren't trying to control what you watch, since you already have that power. You're trying to control what other people watch. Your own decency, morality, state of consciousness, whatever -- that's already under your control. This is an attempt to influence the ideas that other people are exposed to (or not exposed to as the case may be).
     
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    Yeah, it is. Turn the TV off, you commie.
    Maybe we should just self-censor and repress every bad thing that ever happened. Maybe you should tell your kids to wear a blindfold all the time because you never know when someone might be out streaking. It is not the responsibility of others to build reality tunnels for you.
    If your son is so vulnerable to television programming then he was probably going to end up joining a cult anyways. Send him to mine!
     
  18. the big ragu

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    seriously dude, you miss my point.....
    this aint about me, this is about your failure to recognize that at some point, some regulation is needed......

    since you miss my point entirely, lets try approach B;
    is speech limited(restricted)?

    how is pornography limited?

    should for example cbs be allowed to air debby does dallas after the green bay game sunday?
     
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    I pay for that school with my taxes. Why the hell should I have to avoid it? Or is the choice you mention only for the wealthy?

    My taxes pay for that subway as well. And the public television station.

    You would hold all of society hostage to the depravity of a minority of valueless hedonists? How 'bout no? The low-lifes can access all the filth and obsenity they want without forcing the rest of society to shield their children from what you absolutely know would quickly become all but unavoidable.

    A certain breed of liberal has been raised to believe that their every whim is sacred and that all authority is to be hated, feared and avoided. In other words, they are selfish, self-indulgent low-lifes who have internalized the message that never growing up is the greatest good.
     
  20. the big ragu

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    don't disrespect my family assshhholle!!!!!
    my kids are all in college, IT WAS A (*)(*)(*)(*)ING WHAT IF!!!!!!!

    pornography, murder, mayhem all in the comfort of our own homes, wow....great
    all our kids will be joining (*)(*)(*)(*)ing cults....wake the (*)(*)(*)(*) up!!!!
     
  21. Daybreaker

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    In the strictest terms, allowed, yes. At least as far as the government is concerned.

    That doesn't actually mean that they should do it (personally I don't think they should).

    And you should also be allowed -- by which I mean, the government should not be allowed to interfere with -- your freedom of speech, including your right to organize a huge protest their airing of Debbie Does Dallas and boycotting the crap out of them.

    You don't think that the free market is the solution, here? That, given the realities of our culture and general viewer preferences, that CBS won't choose not to air porn after a football game?
     
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    Well there's your problem! Have you ever considered not paying taxes?
     
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    ......................

    Say again?
     
  24. Daybreaker

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    But isn't it your whim that you're holding sacred? And is asking the government to make your viewing choices for you really mature? Isn't that selfish and self-indulgent?
     
  25. Jack Ridley

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    So if your kids are in college, why does it bother you what's on the TV?
     

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