Why is sex and language censored?

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  1. bitterweed

    bitterweed New Member Past Donor

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    This whole thread is pretty close to a non argument..There are several packages for cable television available..If you want the hardcore, no holds barred slop..all you have to do is order it and pay for it.

    You are free to watch what you want if you are willing to pay for it..unless of course..you guys want it for free..and even basic cable isn't free..

    So..tell me again..how are your rights being abused??
     
  2. tksensei

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    Oh really? You want people to be able to walk into 7-11 and buy child pornography? You want people to be able to buy T-shirts printed with photos of you some creep snuck into your house and took when you were unaware? You want kids to be able to get home from school, turn on the TV and see snuff videos? How about a nice ride on public transportation where there are ads for condoms that involve graphic videos of people screwing in every possible manner and position? It would be so nice to go to the mall and do your Christmas shopping with people stationed every few feet screaming obsenities at the top of their lungs, wouldn't it?


    Anything can be taken too far. In any direction. You WANT some degree of censorship, you just don't like the sound of the word.
     
  3. tksensei

    tksensei Banned

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    You didn't even open the links, did you?
     
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    tksensei Banned

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    Do you understand how The Supreme Court and Constitutional law works?
     
  5. kilgram

    kilgram New Member

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    You're mixing concepts that implies other things than free expression, you're comment is demagogic.

    And let's face a thing, in time that the child can see the TV, there will be violent programs, for example the news, but nudity will be forbidden. That is ridiculous.
     
  6. Daybreaker

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    Certain pillars? Censorship is a pillar? The founding fathers believed in censorship?

    You lost me. Explain, please.
     
  7. Daybreaker

    Daybreaker Well-Known Member

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    But this isn't about parents deciding, it's about the government deciding.
     
  8. tksensei

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    Nope, same concept.
     
  9. kilgram

    kilgram New Member

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    Yeah, and later this same people condemn China, when they are imitating China :-D
     
  10. tksensei

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    And if the government 'decides' to allow it, the choice is for all intents and purposes taken from the parents.
     
  11. Montoya

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    Whos talking about child pornography? Also you are talking about extreme cases im talking about curbing censorship on TV and radio. But again a republican knows best right!
     
  12. tksensei

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    Free speech was never envisioned as being completely without limit and has never been thus interpreted by the highest court.
     
  13. Daybreaker

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    Sometimes.

    Sometimes.

    Vulgar language, nudity, lewd acts ... y'know, the truth.

    Of what?

    What?
     
  14. tksensei

    tksensei Banned

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    We are talking about freedom of expression and censorship. As I've said a few times now, you WANT a degree of censorship - even on TV and radio. Don't get upset with me if you didn't think your position through.
     
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    There are laws against child pornography and snuff films because they involve the violations of other laws. So long as no laws are violated in the creation of the content, I see no problem with having zero censorship.

    By the way, why does the Right always have to fall back on slippery slope arguments?
     
  16. Montoya

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    No you just went to the extremes to attempt to justify your facist thinking.
     
  17. Daybreaker

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    I want my T&A. For that matter, so does everybody else ... but there are a few people like yourself who don't want others to have theirs.
     
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    Such images are censored in and of themselves apart from the illegality of their production, and rightly so. Or do you disagree?

    And I see you conveniently ignored the other examples that PROVE you WANT a degree of censorship.
     
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    No, YOU just didn't think through your own argument, and crying "facist" over and over won't save you from the dead-end you've talked yourself into.
     
  20. Veni-Vidi-Feces

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    I only read about 3 pages into this thread, but you all are aware that the FCC also delegates who gets to broadcast where. I will admit that the function is rather mundane, and thus does not get attention, but if we were to return to the "free market" for our communications, what is to stop several companies to broadcast on the same frequency over radio/tv/cellphone, well atm the FCC does.
     
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    By the way, why doesn't the left think through what they are saying when they emote over some issue they don't really understand?
     
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    I disagree. They are censored because their very creation involved illegal acts. In case you haven't noticed, fake snuff films are 100% legal. The only difference between them and real ones? No one was actually harmed. The content itself is not illegal.

    None of the other things should be illegal. If the people don't like them, then they will avoid businesses that are involved in behavior that they deem obscene, the business will lose money, and they will change. Or the business will continue to make money because no one cares and those that are subjectively offended will just have to suck it up.
     
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    Good and reasonable question ... where would you draw the line?
     
  24. Daybreaker

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    But that's a terrible analogy. Nudity, "foul" language ... these things are not like taking a dump in your living room. And you can always just turn the TV off -- or change the channel.
     
  25. Daybreaker

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    No. For America to be truly free, it should be your job to decide whether or not your children see people having sex on TV.

    Uh ... you were aware, as you typed that, that all of those things already occur on TV. Right?
     

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