Why is sex and language censored?

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  1. Daybreaker

    Daybreaker Well-Known Member

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    But your values aren't the same as society's values. And we're not talking about indulging vices, or their imposition -- we're talking about government censorship of sex and language.

    Can you not tell the difference?
     
  2. the big ragu

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    shirley,
    this IS the justification:
    i am saying that our system, without rehashing it, makes it legal, lawful....
    not always right, but that is our system, "gov't instituted amongst men"......
    you disagree, work within the parameters and change it.....

    my opinion is that gov't NOW regulates what is aired on tv, and to "stay consistent" swearing in front of your kids or walking around naked is not illegal....

    but, speech is LIMITED, running naked down the street is LIMITED, having sex at the corner waiting for the bus IS limited.....
     
  3. the big ragu

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    exactly, and you make his point!!!!
    our own personal values are reflected in the laws of our land....
    i've heard some of you argue, rather unsuccessfully that puritan morals pervade....
    nonsense
    current limitations on FREEDOM reflect current history...
    we are a system of laws, made by us, these laws reflect our own morals.....

    under attack here, isn't your right to portray sex and violence/profanity on tv, under attack here is the protection of our children, and there right to be free from an expected onslaught of free market sex, drugs and violence that would grow worse than it already is....these should be regulated....
    here, kids rights OUTWEIGH the dirtbags rights!!!!

    have you no decency?
     
  4. Daybreaker

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    Okay. I think we know that the government does regulate the airwaves, and we know that sex and language are censored. But that's not the question. The question is, why are these things censored?

    It's a question that I think has been answered.
     
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    But this law certainly doesn't reflect my values.

    And, incidentally, I'm not a dirtbag.
     
  6. Jack Ridley

    Jack Ridley New Member

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    Because the government didn't raise me right, which apparently you think it should.
     
  7. Jack Ridley

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    Who is 'we'? Who is 'us'?
     
  8. Jack Ridley

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    What if my disagreement is with the parameters?
     
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    tksensei Banned

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    In this instance they are.
     
  10. Jack Ridley

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    What are 'society's values'? Who exactly is 'society'?
     
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    Society's values are reflected through our social, religious, and community institutions and the laws we pass via our elected representatives. We are all part of society even if some want to believe they are not. If a small minority within society desires unrestricted filth always and everywhere, their deviant values will not be reflected in society at large.
     
  12. TREDRE

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    There are a large number of parent who believe its best to not allow young children to see sexual images or hear sexually explicit speach.

    The reason is because it brings to the table a layer of education that is arguably being forced to come out to early.

    Leaving children who do what they hear or see to experiment with sex at younger ages and perhaps become pregnant before they understand the responsibility.

    Now a day sex with no strings is the hot ticket. But sex always has strings and can create big complications in the lives of children or immature adults.

    Do I want my 10 year old to see people have sex or looking at porn? Defanately not. But its getting near that time to go over the reproductive system and things like that.

    Young children dont need to know, hear or see sex. In fact many people believe it can disturb their mental growth.
     
  13. LibertarianFTW

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    You keep using the argument that that's the law, so it's okay. I think we all know that none of us on this site are going to change anything simply by talking to one another. We're just having some fun, here.

    Do you think "indecency" (nudity and language) should be illegal on the airwaves? If so, why?
     
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    And God forbid parents actually learn to be parents and monitor what their children watch on TV.
     
  15. Jack Ridley

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    What counts as an institution? Which institutions have more weight than others?
    So society's values are independent of what the members of society actually believe?
     
  16. the big ragu

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    because the current laws written by our representatives and our current judiciary adjudicated that it should be...

    i think the original question posed by the op, was that this is censorship and in order for us to be freer we must allow all speech, and that is unequivocally untrue....
     
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    There's isn't so much language censorship here. Sex, yes, but most shows containing sex are shown after 8.30pm - as legally, they cannot be shown any earlier. If a show is MA rated, it is usually shown at 9.30pm, with strong warnings beforehand.

    We don't censor language, at least, not that I know of. I think we do censor sex - the movie 'Original Sin' with Angelina Jolie and Antonio Bandaras has a rather steamy sex scene in it, and Channel 78 edited the entire scene out of it when I last watched it. Never mind, I just watched it online.

    The only time things are really censored here is when the religious rabble start whinging about things. Like when Home and Away had a lesbian storyline. They went mental about - never mind the fact they'd never watched an episode of the show in their lives, and the scene (a 7 second kiss between two female characters) was dumped and an edited version aired instead. Once they had their own way they backed off.

    Or when The Secret Life Of Us had an episode which dealt with abortion. Should have heard the idiots then.

    Parents can't complain about there being too much sex and language on TV. Be a parent and control what your kids watch. Better yet, send the brats outside to play and stop them watching any TV at all.
     
  18. the big ragu

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    and God forbid that we all strive to have a civilized society that can protect its own innocent children....
     
  19. Makedde

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    You can do that easily enough. It, too, is called being a parent.
     
  20. Jack Ridley

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    So, might makes right?
     
  21. LibertarianFTW

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    Okay... so parents who don't want their children viewing those sorts of things can use parental blocks.
     
  22. the big ragu

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    what would be gained from allowing this on tv?

    one poster stated earlier that children aren't influenced by what they see on tv?

    what do you think?
     
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    Why should they have to? For the sake of depraved hedonists who could easily access their filth elsewhere? Why is it the parent who represents the values of society at large who has to go out of his/her way and not the depraved hedonist?
     
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    Doesn't matter whether they are or not... parents decide how to parent their children.

    What would we gain? We should make laws because there's nothing to not gain if we don't make them? All laws need to have merit justification. Why is it that you want the government nowhere when it comes to economic issues, but when it comes to parenting our own children, you say, what would we gain by not letting the government parent our children?
     
  25. Jack Ridley

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    The right to have pornography on the airwaves is intrinsically a good thing.

    I understand that commies like you, however, need to have an end that justifies the means.
     

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