Why leave liberal states ?

Right Wingers in Maryland always TALK ABOUT leaving the state, yup.... They TALK ABOUT IT.

 

As I traveled to San Jose, Calif., last night to speak at the Global Semiconductor Alliance Executive Forum, I was enthralled with all the state has to offer – natural beauty, great schools, a diverse and unique culture, lush vineyards and farms, and a thriving tech sector. But as a political and legal enterprise, California hangs dangerously on the brink of financial and economic collapse.

California’s state government debt rose by about $5 billion to $617 billion during the last year, with no signs of a turnaround. One after the other, California cities are falling to bankruptcy like dominoes. Stockton, Vallejo, Mammoth Lakes and San Bernardino have already gone insolvent, and now Compton is expected to run out of money soon. Some are saying this is just the tip of the iceberg.

Cities like these are in fiscal trouble because the government (both local and state) spends more than it takes in and then raises taxes in a vain effort to make up the difference. With government employee pensions skyrocketing, high unemployment compensation debt and an increasing amount of taxpaying businesses fleeing the state, California is learning a hard lesson in fiscal responsibility.The entire state government has failed to take the issue of generous defined-benefit pensions seriously, which now consume increasingly large chunks of the government’s budget. Gov. Jerry Brown recently announced a pension reform plan, but advocates for more fiscal responsibility are calling the effort underwhelming as many more cuts need to be made. The governor’s proposal is estimated to save between $40 and $60 billion over the next 30 years, but critics argue that it should be much more.

Not only is California experiencing pension deficits, but the amount of money the state owes the rest of American taxpayers for cash borrowed from the Feds to pay Californians unemployment payments is shocking and unfair to the rest of the nation. California uniquely owes the federal government more than $9 billion for unemployment compensation. No other state owes nearly that much for this one program; in fact, the combined debt of 45 other states totals only $7 billion. The State Legislative Analyst Office estimates that California will have to pay $3 billion over the next 10 years in interest alone for these borrowed funds.
In any event, the unexplained Obama Administration’s charity to California doesn’t seem to be helping. The unemployment rate of 10.7 percent remains the third highest in the United States, and is more than two percentage points above the national rate of 8.3 percent. California has also lost some 855,200 private sector jobs since 2008.California workers might find it harder to find jobs because so many businesses are fleeing the state to find more economic stability. California ranks as the third worst state in the country in terms of job migration with a net outflow of jobs that is one percentage point greater than the flow of jobs into the state. When comparing the ratio of jobs created by new businesses compared to jobs eliminated by firms going under, California ranks 34th. It’s also hard for entrepreneurs to start new businesses in California. In Texas it only takes six weeks to open a restaurant; in California it takes two years! Even “green” companies are leaving: Cereplast Inc., a maker of renewable plastics, announced it was leaving California to move to Indiana to reduce its real estate and utility costs.

And California’s “green” agenda isn’t helping its economy either. California taxpayers uniquely fund entities fully redundant with the federal government. The California Energy Commission (CEC), for example, seeks to regulate virtually any product consuming energy. Despite a record of flawed rulemakings and “phantom” energy savings claims, the CEC announced plans to introduce regulatory standards for consumer electronics products including computers, displays and game consoles. Even though the electronic products met the voluntary standards of ENERGY STAR, this government bureaucracy felt the need to regulate this industry. Regulations like these threaten to stifle innovation and economic growth.

More recently the State Senate struck down legislation that would have improved energy efficiency rules by requiring the use of recent data and considering the economic impacts of rules. The CEC, whose redundancy and incompetence is funded by taxpayers, has a consistent record of bad rules and phantom energy savings. Sadly, California citizens suffer with higher taxes, outrageous electric bills, and false claims of energy savings, while they are denied the cheap power next door from better-run Nevada utilities.

California has jumped the shark. Once a thriving, innovative state where Americans and businesses wanted to live, it has become a classic example of bad government ruining a great state. If American taxpayers bail out California, Congress should insist that California eliminate redundant regulators and allow citizens cheaper power and lower taxes.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/garysha...alifornia-wasting-money-and-hurting-business/

 

The reason MOST blacks, latinos and poor whites ARE demotarts is because they are on the government tit ! And illegals are the new improved freeloading demotarts , that's why all the libs are making such a fuss about voter ID .

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."

 

WOW , what about "Andrew Cuomo hires criminal lawyer to represent governor's office as scandal over Moreland anti-corruption commission ." Gov. chomo is as bad as his corrupt DAD !!!!

 

30 years ago , we didn't have 170 programs of welfare ,12 million illegals to feed , school , and provide healthcare for .. The liberal democrat voting block .
We didn't have the HUGE need for all the Spanish speaking teachers , police ,healthcare workers and civil service workers .

“Now the trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed.”

 

Europe Is Warning Us
Socialist promises of an equality of result are imploding before Europeans’ eyes.

Rome — If Americans think fuel and food prices are high, they should try Europe, where both can be nearly double those in the United States, while salaries are often lower.

Italy, like most of the now-broke southern-European countries, is desperate to privatize bloated public-owned utilities. Politicians are trying to curb pensions and encourage the private sector to hire workers and buy equipment, as a way of attracting wary northern Europeans, acting in loco parentis, to lend such perpetual adolescents more bailout money.

In theory, Italians accept that they are going to have to be a lot more like the Germans, and less like the Irish, Portuguese, and Spaniards. In reality, they may end up like the Greeks, who are still striking and occasionally rioting because too few foreigners wish to continue subsidizing their socialist paradise. Red graffiti on Italian streets still speak of socialist solidarity, while Italian politicians talk capitalism to foreign lenders.

The European Union, like the 19th-century Congress of Vienna, can point to one achievement: a general absence of war in Western Europe for more than 60 years. Otherwise, almost all the socialist promises of an equality of result are imploding before Europeans’ eyes.

The higher taxes go, the more people cheat on them, and the less revenue comes in. There are sometimes two prices in Italy (and elsewhere in Europe) — the official price that the unwary pay, which includes a high value-added tax, and the negotiated, under-the-table, tax-free price that the haggling shopper obtains.

Europe is essentially defenseless, as governments further trim defense budgets to keep their shrinking spread-the-wealth entitlements alive. The French and British — the continent’s two premier military powers — have been trying for nearly three months to defeat Moammar Qaddafi’s ragtag nation of less than 7 million, itself rent by civil war. The descendants of Wellington and Napoleon so far seem no match for Qaddafi and the Taliban. Both nations will soon be leaving Afghanistan in frustration.

Subsidized wind and solar power have not led to much of an increase in European supplies of electricity, but have helped make power bills soar. Highly taxed gas runs about $10 a gallon, ensuring tiny cars and dependence on mass transit. Central planners love the resulting state-subsidized, high-density European apartment living, without garages, back yards, or third bedrooms. Yet the Japanese tsunami and accompanying nuclear contamination have reminded European governments that their similarly fragile models of highly urbanized, highly concentrated living make them equally vulnerable to such disasters.

Popular culture may praise the use of the subway and train, but about every minute or two, some government grandee in a motorized entourage rushes through the streets as an escort of horn-blaring police forces traffic off to the side. A European technocratic class in limousines that runs government bureaus and international organizations — the class that includes the disgraced former International Monetary Fund chief, Dominique Strauss-Kahn — live like 18th-century aristocrats at Versailles as they mouth socialist platitudes.

Throughout Western Europe, a subordinate class of unassimilated North African, sub-Saharan African, and Pakistani immigrants hawk wares and do menial labor — and are increasingly despised by Europeans as times get rougher. A growing proportion of the working class is getting fed up that the welfare state means sky-high fuel and food costs, small and expensive apartments, and limited disposable income for the masses — but lots of aristocratic perks for the technocrats who oversee the redistributive mess. The notion of a large and esteemed class of self-made, independent-thinking business people and empowered upper-middle-class entrepreneurs is a concept that seems foreign, if not downright subversive.
An acknowledged despair now seems to permeate Western Europe. A glorious past is associated with tourist dollars, not appreciation of the Renaissance or the Enlightenment. Majestic churches are more moneymaking museums and tourist stops than honored hallmarks of past culture and current faith. Christendom often helped to preserve humanity through horrific crises, but you would never learn that from the average cynical European, who appears either indifferent to or apologetic about both his religion and the hallowed European origins of Western civilization, responsible for much of what is good in the world today.

All this European turmoil raises a paradox. If dispirited Europeans are conceding that something is terribly wrong with their half-century-long experiment with socialism, unassimilated immigrants, cultural apologies, defense cuts, and post-nationalism, why in the world is the Obama administration intent on adopting what Europeans are rejecting?


http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/269146/europe-warning-us-victor-davis-hanson

 

Shouldn't bite the hand that feeds you ! Top 8% pay over 70% of ALL federal income tax, and I hope they pay even more . . At least they contribute .

 

Lay off the foul tasting "CHANGE" Kool Aid !!!! Wait until after the mid-term elections and the obamacare sticker stock .

 

Wonder why , must be lovely there !

 

It would seem that Europe is warning us not to go the very way Liberals here want to take us. It also seems they want to take utilities away from government ownership and privatize them. They see it drives up utility bills, not lowers them. So Libs, can you see your way isn't the right way to go>

 

The right wingers are a small minority, most of the SMART people love it here, have no problem with it. I live in one of the most socialist counties. It's great we have lots of public amenities that I use all the time. I love it.

 

Well, not ALL blue states are cold.

Granted, a lot of red states are turning purple, like North Carolina.

 

That's the way the Europeans thought too, until it all started coming down on their head and their wallet. That small minority of Right Wingers is all that keep many states afloat.

 

Wtf? So a company can just hire workers and expect to grow, even though there is no additional demand for its products? A business that is making $100,000 a month and pays $40,000 a month to its employees can add 10 new workers, increasing the labor costs to $90,000, without increasing revenue at all, and this is evidence of a growing company?

You must have never taken a business class in your life or spent any amount of time outside of Academia and/or the public sector workforce.

What's stopping them from paying higher taxes right now? If they currently feel they are being undertaxed, as Cloak and others seem to believe, why can't they pay a little extra when given the chance? The Government would gladly accept their donations, and as numerous as you liberals are, that would add up to quite a bit of extra money to redistribute to the poor to increase their opportunities.

 

" The problem with liberals is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”

 

The reason most leave has little to do with the cold , it's the chill of taxes ! They are on fixed income and libs love to spend it for them ! As they like to tell it , " it's a SMALL increase in your property tax , a TEMPORARY sales tax increase " they know no limits !!!


"The taxpayer - that's someone who works for the federal government(and is charged) but doesn't have to take the civil service examination."
Ronald Reagan

 

I left for one big reason: snow.

 

While plenty of Democrats are guilty of tax hikes, many hikes happen because of deficit spending that has been done by both parties.

Reagan was quite the deficit spender himself.

 

that's not even what's being discussed. It's as if you didn't even read the post you responded to. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/12/30/population_data_show_more_movement_south_and_west.html

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haha, like I said, government policy is only one factor. A lot of people leave to get away from the snow, but a lot more stay for the natural beauty of the north. That, and because it's still where home is.

 

Your lucky , you wouldn't warm up to all the tax increases and welfare ditty boppers either !!!

" The price of greatness is responsibility."

 

Which party advocates a balanced budget and which invents 172 NEW programs that overlap .

 

That depends on the administration. Clinton supported a balanced budget while Bush created a lot of new programs for the sake of "national security."

Neither party has been consistent on balancing the budget.

 

Clinton gave us NAFTA and massive layoffs as a result !
I bet " national security" seemed important after 911 and ISIL dip$hits !!!

 

NAFTA was supported by both parties. I figured more free trade shouldn't be an issue to an economic conservative, however.

ISIL's rise can be directly tied to two mistakes -- removing Saddam and supporting the rebels in Syria. The Patriot Act and various other surveillance state policies don't make us safer, nor do most of our foreign policy decisions reduce the presence of terror.