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Why May issue CCW licenses should be abolished

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Turtledude, May 3, 2017.

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  1. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    I disagree based on the full faith and credit clause. Driver's licenses from all states are recognized. The same should apply to travellers with out of state CCW licenses while travelling in other states.
     
    perdidochas, Jul 10, 2017
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  2. Rucker61

    Rucker61 Well-Known Member

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    Do states retain the power to decide who can and cannot be legally married in their territory?
     
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  3. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    FYI- guns aren't people
     
    Ronstar, Jul 10, 2017
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  4. Rucker61

    Rucker61 Well-Known Member

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    Irrelevant. SCOTUS ruled on a rights issue in favor of the feds. Precedent has been set.
     
    Rucker61, Jul 10, 2017
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  5. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so how come NO ONE has ever challenged NY's refusal to recognize out of state CCWs, based on the Full Faith & Credit Clause?
     
    Ronstar, Jul 10, 2017
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    Rucker61 Well-Known Member

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    I don't know that no one ever has or has not. Frankly, I don't believe that CCW is a Constitutionally protected right. I do believe that open carry is, however, and states should not be able to restrict that right.
     
    Rucker61, Jul 10, 2017
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    i believe SCOTUS made an error by deciding that we have a right to possess firearms outside of the context of a well-regulated militia
     
    Ronstar, Jul 10, 2017
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    Rucker61 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, that Chief Justice Waite just ruined things for everyone.
     
    Rucker61, Jul 10, 2017
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    DoctorWho Well-Known Member

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    Wrong again Ron, it has nothing to do with concealed carry.
    LEOSA recognizes qualified law enforcement officers, both active and retired and allows them to carry in any State or Territory or U.S. possesion without needing a permit or license to carry from a State, they must satisfy Federal regulations as to being a Qualified Law Enforcement Officer, either active or retired.
     
    DoctorWho, Jul 10, 2017
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no, Im right.

    if Congress passed a universal reciprocity concealed-carry law, many states would challenge it in the courts under the 10th Amendment.
     
    Ronstar, Jul 10, 2017
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    How come that didn't work for gay marriage?
     
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  12. DoctorWho

    DoctorWho Well-Known Member

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    You are wrong.
    It is not universal concealed carry reciprocity law.
    It is LEOSA, it applies only to Qualified Law Enforcement personnel.

    It passed.
    It is indeed Law.
    Can you not understand that Ron ?
     
    DoctorWho, Jul 11, 2017
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    6Gunner Banned

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    That's because you do not understand what the phrase "well-regulated" actually means. If one is properly trained and equipped, they are well-regulated according to constitutional intent.
     
    6Gunner, Jul 11, 2017
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    No! No!
    "Well regulated" means licensed gun owners, registered guns, $500 permits and $1000 taxes on purchases!!!
     
    TOG 6, Jul 11, 2017
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    6Gunner Banned

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    Right?

    :rolleyes: (They need a better eyeroll emoji)
     
    6Gunner, Jul 11, 2017
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    And here I always thought
    " Well Regulated" reffered to
    Constipation......
     
    DoctorWho, Jul 11, 2017
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    The tenth amendment only covers things not listed in the constitution. The 2nd amendment is in the constitution and therefore the 10th has no bearing on the issue.
     
    Maccabee, Aug 6, 2017
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    There were rules that allowed people to consume alcohol during Prohibition, but no one would say argue that alcohol wasn't, for the most part, prohibited. The right of individuals in California to bear arms is being unreasonably restricted by burdensome and arbitrary rules.
     
    BleedingHeadKen, Aug 6, 2017
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    That, and the actions of the states are limited by the 2nd just as they are limited by the 1st.
     
    TOG 6, Aug 6, 2017
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