Why won't Hispanics Assimilate into American Culture?

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  1. foreversunshine

    foreversunshine New Member

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    Pretty presumptuous of you to assume I don't already know what my grandparents actually went through or have done and that I haven't been through Ellis Island many times.
     
  2. Flaming Moderate

    Flaming Moderate New Member Past Donor

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    Apparently, you don't get out much. Been to a Pow Wow lately, ( we were at one 2 months ago )? How about the Amana colony? I was down at the Brighton Seminole casino 2 weeks ago. I can introduce you to some Cajun cousins of my brother in law that only speak a version of French. Find a lot of Baptists in Utah? My keyboard player's last band only performed in Yiddish.

    All of these people and communities are red blooded Americans. Just because they bother to keep their cultural heritage in tact does not make them any less American. And I for one can immediately tell you the differences between a good Cuban and good Mexican restaurant, so get over the idea all Hispanics are the same.

    Maybe if you got out from behind a keyboard and met a few people you would learn not to rely on racial stereotypes.
     
  3. bill hill

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    Beacuse they do not have too. They are rewarded for breaking into our Country as our fed gov't will NOT uphold our border laws. Because they get free education, free ER treatment for their common colds, TB, etc.,. Because they get use of our benefits that as an American citizen, we have to pay for and they do not.

    So ask yourself this question? Why should they assimilate, when it's our own fault for allowing the breaking and entering into our Country by giving them rewards? We've cheapened the value of being an American so much, so why in the hell should they even need to assimilate? We've taken away all incentives by giving them away..
     
  4. johnmayo

    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    That is just an idea In your head. Talk to a black girl exactly, that is the trick, as you would a white girl or someone from your culture, and it will work out fine. Never act like a person from a culture you are not a part of. Girls go for confidence more then anything, and you are most confident as yourself.
     
  5. garyd

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    Well for openers it's pretty much too early to tell whether Latinos are going to assimilate or not. Itis a rather tlengthy process that often times take multiple generations to complete.
     
  6. Serfin' USA

    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    I guess that depends on the part of California you're talking about. Many inner city schools are definitely in bad shape.
     
  7. Albert Di Salvo

    Albert Di Salvo New Member

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    The public schools attended by children of the white elite in California are good. Their children receive social capital from their parents, and their teachers help them develop human capital. Such children are a clear minority in this state.

    East Asian and South Asian students in California can overcome any public school deficiency and succeed because of their cultural characteristics.

    But the majority of kids in California public schools aren't succeeding.
     
  8. Serfin' USA

    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    That is the problem with donations going to specific schools rather than to districts.

    In a lot of countries with better education systems, private donations can't be given to a specific school. They're required to be distributed throughout a district as needed.

    America has a rather classist system for education as it does for many other things.
     
  9. Albert Di Salvo

    Albert Di Salvo New Member

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    Classism is one of many problems contributing to failure in public schools.
     
  10. lizarddust

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    That's a new one. What are 'Hispanic Brazilians'?
     
  11. cjrichards18

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    I'll say that I agree with the counter-productive nature of Mexican aid groups and the influx of immigrants coming from the border becoming a strain on the already-strained public system in America. However, I disagree strongly with the separation of race and political party as your main point of attention. Take into consideration, for example, that the lowest amount of unemployment in U.S. history was under a democratic president (FDR) during WW2 at 2%, which obviously contradicts the notion that liberals are "lazy". You can't have a mass of lazy people with 98% of them working. Second, the widely-regarded most popular conservative president I know of, Ronald Reagan, made plenty of moves that directly opposed the current Republican party's agenda. The point I'm trying to make is that uncompromisingly stereotyping one group as opposite to another based on personal opinions doesn't change the reality that our society is more gray than "black and white or left and right". Asking hispanics to "assimilate" their culture is similar to being told to give up your guns or religion.
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  12. Liberalis

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    Who cares what they do with their money? It's their money. They got it by providing services to everyone else.

    Irish Americans have their culture, my family has Hungarian heritage and we celebrate name-days and put our shoes out on Dec. 6th. And we send money to our uncle back in Hungary who cannot move here so he can live a better life. How dare you try to dictate how other people live their lives and what they do with their money.
     
  13. Daggdag

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    The same reason why southerners won't stop waving confederate flags. They are proud of their heritage.
     
  14. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who cares how hispanics spend their money as long as they aren't doing anything illegal;
     
  15. Brtblutwo

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    This fact will shock you white conservatives/neo-conservatives, but most Hispanics had ancestors native to the western hemisphere. Born here centuries before Columbus arrived. They ARE the natives, it is the whites from Europe that invaded. It is you people that refuse to assimilate.
     
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    That you have no historical perspective.
     
  17. Karma Mechanic

    Karma Mechanic Well-Known Member

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    then why are you ignorant of what the vast majority of immigrants did.
     
  18. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    Interesting. My family were refugees from WW2 Poland and found themselves stateless and homeless when they came to Britain via Russia, Persia and Palestine in 1947. Throughout their lives they worked, paid taxes and contributed to Britain's economy thus staying loyal to their benefactor, but continued to support, as much as they could, family members in Communist Poland. I grew up within a domestic setting which was firmly biased toward Polish culture; I still speak the language fluently and, although being born in Britain and thus a British citizen, I still feel emotionally Polish.

    As far as 'assimilation' is concerned I'm a little confused by the terminology. I work, pay taxes, speak the English language and have done since I was a very small boy (although Polish was my first until I began school), have a firm grasp of British culture and history, as does my daughter. So why cannot someone enjoy a mix of cultures whilst, at the same time, contributing to the nation which they now call their home?
     
  19. mutmekep

    mutmekep New Member

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    People from superior cultures can only assimilate to inferior ones through mixing , American culture is mostly Dutch in spirit take a look in the Netherlands to see how immigrants are doing there to see the bigger picture .
     
  20. johnmayo

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    They can. I am just saying 1st generation is happy to be there, 2nd feels a bit like an outsider (not a pole, but not a regular uk citizen either with ties abroad) and tends to have more criminal issues-still a minority of the 2nd generation but nearly all have a bump, the 3rd feels little if any to the country of their heritage. That is the normal path of assimilation, broadly speaking.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    A culture is a culture; it is only inferior or superior according to one's subjective perspective. Who are you to judge which is which?
     
  22. Libhater

    Libhater Well-Known Member

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    What are you going on about here? Look, I've been the one who has been pushing this thingy called segregation all along where like minded and culturally minded people live and socialize with their own--for I happen to live in a gated community myself. And I happen to get out a lot more than you, for I've traveled the world, lived among many more groups of people than you, and in fact have been to the casino in Brighton, Fl. perhaps more than you.
    The reason for my OP here in the first place is to analyze the assimilation process (if any at all) from various groups of recent immigrants. You would agree with me--wouldn't you that there needs to be some sort of assimilation for these immigrants when they first arrive on America's shores. We're talking about people learning basic English for starters; or people living here without forming groups to take over much of the Southwest in an attempt to make that portion of our nation el Mexico or la raza etc. These chicanos are sucking off Uncle Sam's teat big time and we the taxpayers are giving them a free ride. I won't even get into how these chicanos represent a disproportionate amount of our institutionalized felons.
    There is no other nation on earth that is so flexible and generous with their immigration policies than we are here in America. Don't you think these immigrants should start obeying a couple of our laws before settling into to their cradle to grave package of bennies?
     
  23. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    It might be worth reminding you that ALL Americans have immigrant ancestry. I notice no reference to white criminal activity in your post.
     
  24. Leffe

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    Why didn't the original settlers assimilate into native American Culture? I'm not even being sarcastic now, because it's the exact same reason!

    Why are there Paddy's day parades all over the US? Why are the Italian Americans, so "Italian"?

    You don't seem very worldly wise.
     
  25. mutmekep

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    Hey , look at the topic ! OP made the judgement .
     

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