Why won't Hispanics Assimilate into American Culture?

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  1. Libhater

    Libhater Well-Known Member

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    Woops, looks like you made a common mistake before posting this response. Yeah, read post #46 to see that this OP isn't about segregation after the fact of immigration, rather, its about assimilation into becoming Americans from the get-go, which the OP clearly proves that the majority of Hispanics have no intention of ever doing, and in fact are doing everything to show their contempt for WHITEY and for America in general.


    You don't seem very worldly wise.[/QUOTE]
     
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    That's it? You do know that there is no official language in the USA? And you object to brightly painted buildings.

    That's it?
     
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    The OP 'proves' nothing; it is an opinion and no more than that. Actually it is more than that; it's an overtly racist piece of crap. You know that very well as your serially racist posts are evidence of...
    As for quoting from 'American Renaissance', an avowedly racist, white supremacist blog, you won't get any credibility points here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Taylor
     
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    What nonsense. Your cities are full (as are cities around the world) of "Little <insert country>. From teh Chinese, Italian, Polish, Irish on and on... they came to the USA, grouped together by their nationality. Over time, they gradually integrate, but it took a long time. The Irish, Poles and Italians were at war with each other for a very long time in many cities. You should understand your own history and how human nature affected it.

    In Amsterdam there's an American beer pub (it's very good), but why oh why is it full of Americans???? WHy don't they integrate into Dutch society?

    When I go to an Irish bar in Amsterdam, why am I served by Irish people? And in the Aussie pub, why is it I'm served by Aussies and am surrounded by them?

    This thread is full of over simplified idiot and idealistic nonsense.
     
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    You and the lefty before you keep missing the point behind this thread. I'm not talking about how any of these sub groups and or sub races of people become segregated over time, no, I'm talking about the current failure of the Chicanos to assimilate. The lefty before you has to rely on his ridiculous notion that the facts I supplied here come from a racist institution. Its been a ploy of the left to always scream racism when they can't accept the facts as presented--e.g. screaming racist to anyone who doesn't agree with or vote for Obama. Quotes from the OP came directly from professors and from Hispanics themselves. I could present a tome of quotes from angry anti American Chicanos who despise living in America, and or despise Americans as well. I don't see where any of those other sub immigrant groups show any hatred toward their new found nation called America.
     
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    What nonsense. Your cities are full (as are cities around the world) of "Little <insert country>. From teh Chinese, Italian, Polish, Irish on and on... they came to the USA, grouped together by their nationality. Over time, they gradually integrate, but it took a long time. The Irish, Poles and Italians were at war with each other for a very long time in many cities. You should understand your own history and how human nature affected it.

    In Amsterdam there's an American beer pub (it's very good), but why oh why is it full of Americans???? WHy don't they integrate into Dutch society?

    When I go to an Irish bar in Amsterdam, why am I served by Irish people? And in the Aussie pub, why is it I'm served by Aussies and am surrounded by them?

    This thread is full of over simplified idiot and idealistic nonsense.[/QUOTE]

    Because no one in the work cares about the Dutch language anymore and there ia no point to learning it. Let it die, embrace some English and get over it.
     
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    China Town NYC (no assimilation)
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    Paddy's Day NYC (no assimilation)
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  8. Leffe

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    The Dutch do... And they speak better English than many American's here... It is not the Dutch complaining about the use of English in the NL, it is the American's complaining about the use of Mexican in America.... where ironically, there is no such language as "American", you use my language instead.
     
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    English will be defined by America's brand of English soon enough. The Internet is built by Americans, and we dominate the entertainment industry, it is only a matter of time. Then we will pick on the English for the way they speak their own language, and it will be funny.

    The Dutch and every other European speak English pretty well. Let their languages die, and lets embrace the one language we can all disagree on. No need for Dutch, Swiss, German, any of the Balkan languages, French can stay I guess, but Portuguese has to go. Sorry Brazil.

    Spanish speaking people tend to want to learn English, and their kids learn it in one generation. We should help them along that path, because it will mean more tax revenues from their larger paychecks later. Speaking English is a job skill in this country, and around the world.
     
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    Pretty presumptuous of you to point to your "grandparents" as an example for all who came through Ellis Island.
     
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    I've represented Hispanics and I've gotten to know them and most of them are hard-working people and they have no dream of taking over this part of the country and giving it back to Mexico or any other country. That is the dream of a small number of hard-core radicals and there is absolutely no chance of it ever happening.
     
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    Languages cannot be enforced, they are cultural by nature... this is the very reason English is "English"; it's a mixture of the language of the Britons (circa 1100) and French. Languages are in a state of constant evolution, this cannot be stopped or frozen in time and they cannot be forced upon people (think Espiranto).
     
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    That isn't true at all. The map shows you can force languages on all sorts of people and within a few generations they will make it a "part of their culture". Think north and South America the Caribbean, Africa and parts of Asia.
     
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    I suggest you learn Mandarin Chinese. China will soon overtake America as the world's dominant economic power, and you would do well to become acquainted with their language, culture and customs. Arrogantly assuming English should, or will be, the dominant language in the future is pretty dumb, not to say short-sighted.
     
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    Why won't Hispanics Assimilate into American Culture?

    I expect that they can't find it.
     
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    Weak willed people. Try tell the French of Dutch... Hell, the NL is the only country where they refused to comply with the smoking ban... the government gave up in the end.
     
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    And English culture is so, so, so superior, right?
     
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    haha, I got to like people who fight a smoking ban. Well done. My point still stands that you can force language on people though.

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    We can open up our borders and hold them off for another 50 years. Don't get too excited about America's decline, she may wake up one day and remember who she is.
     
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    Yes, you should know as you bought most of it in European antique auctions and took it back to America!
     
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    Just another confirmation that right-wing racism is alive and well in America.

    When we point to the fact that Republican immigration policies are based upon anti-Hispanic racism (which is technically discrimination based upon ethnic heritage) we have a lot of support for that conclusion based upon what the right-wing racists openly state.

    The real problem isn't the black man or the Hispanic in America but instead the real problem is the White Nationalist in America today. They oppose the very ideals upon which America was founded where "ALL men are Created Equal" and they try to pawn off their distorted and corrupt beliefs as if there is a ligitimate foundation for them. The create the problem by victimizing minorities and then blame the victim for the problems they create.
     
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    Quite high on literary products, but I'm not English and don't care really.
     
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    Watch it Saxon, you go too far. :)

    What music do you listen to again? Where did all that start? Do you watch TV do you? Ever catch a movie? I am pretty sure Americans either invented the entertainment choice in your house, or created the actual media you are watching or listening to at any given time. Your kids will listen to Americans, watch Americans, on devices designed by Americans. Yes we have a nostalgia for your antiquities, but mostly because we haven't been around long enough for our own, and look back to a simple time and simple people and think, "wow, it is amazing that after 2000+ years of these people's history they were able to create a vase, that is pretty amazing for them.". :)
     
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    Well now, I listen to a lot of jazz which had its roots in Africa, classical music which is mostly of European origin, Bluegrass (Scottish and Irish origin) on CDs invented by an American (I'll concede that one, although it was jointly developed by the Japanese and Dutch in collaboration-Sony and Phillips), and I watch a television which was invented by a Scot, John Logie Baird.
    Hope this helps:wink:
     
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    But recording was invented by Americans street lights by and Americans,
     
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    Street lighting not so. The first modern (kerosene) street lighting was installed in Lvov (now the Ukraine, then the Austrian Empire), in 1853. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_light First electric street lighting, Russian, first installed in Paris ("City of Lights").
     

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