Will a ‘Black’ Name Brand My Son With Mug Shots Before He’s Even Born?

Affirmative action and anti discrimination measures didn't get swinging untill about 1970, and in full practice about 1975. So....2013 minus 1970 = about 43 years......and blacks were brutally oppressed in many forms between 1650-1970, which = 320 years.

I don't know how long it should take, nobody does, and apparently based on literacy/crime/affluence stats, it hasn't been long enough.

The question is...will it ever be enough, and for too many people, that becomes what they consider evidence that blacks are finferior.

Whites, especially white middle aged men, at my company are a small minority. And I live in a nice part of town that has almost no crime. So maybe there is a whole world of crap out there I'm missing. And thank God for that

 

I'm not a real estate expert.

I can't imagine property values around here fluctuating based on the race of tenants/property owners. I do know for sure...that property values can be negatively affected by poor people moving into a neighborhood....black, white, latino, or otherwise.

 

Wow....you really do live in a different world if you don't think most employers are gonna send the LaToya and DeMarcarius resumes to the circular file.....that's pretty much common knowledge in the hiring world. Think about it.....if their mother thought giving a child a name like that was a good idea then they aren't really smart......the children of dumb people are generally dumb as well.......people don't want to hire dumb people.....its not that complicated.

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What about the blacks in Haiti and sub-Saharan Africa who haven't been enslaved for 200 years......why are their countries (*)(*)(*)(*)-holes?

 

My world seems to be different indeed. And every company winds up dumb people occaisionally because sometimes stupid people interview well. But like I was saying to another poster, 49 year old white guys like me are a small minority where I work, and I don't see higher than average stupidity based on race here.

Must suck where you are if black people are more likely to be dumb.

Must be the water.

You should ask somebody who's been there, or someone who cares about Africa.

 

a guy name Dr. Dre is worth $350 million dollars and he is bested by a guy named Diddy and one named JayZ
So............................................................................................................................

 

Thank you for your reply,
A good way to become a real estate expert and an expert in housing is to invest ones life savings into duplexes, four-plexes and other multifamily dwellings. And like a naive 15 year old boy who had dreams of an easy career roofing houses in 100 degree heat disappears in the twinkling of an eye on his first day at work, one also will be denuded of any politically correct Rockwellian fantasies about race relations when the rent comes due.
Like I tell everyone concerning the rental business, GETCHA SOME!

Respectfully,

 

I thought the medical insurance business was melodramatic. I'm not ready for that kind of headache. I think I'll just buy a chinese fireworks factory, it sounds like a safer bet.

 

LOL, probably so. Nonetheless, just making a point in general and not aiming at you.

Respectfully,

 

IDK. 4 is kinda old world. :-/

 

you will be if lil Ty gets ahold of you, he thinks he's a pro-wrestler.

 

are you saying Obama has screwed up so bad that it's going to be at least 35 years before another black person can get the job?

i think that's grossly unfair to the ones that actually do something with their lives and have talents beyond reading speeches.

 

Sadly, Obama doesnt even do very well at reading teleprompters. If he has to think for himself or speak 'off the cuff' he is fairly embarrassing to watch. He relies almost solely on cliches and generalities. And when he talks facts he struggles to cite those things in context as he mumbles and struggles to maintain a confidence in what he is saying. Its almost like he apologizing in his manner of speech.
Some people excuse his lack of eloquence by comparing him to Bush, lol. And that makes sense to them. In order to evaluate Obama's public speaking you would need yo compare him to Thomas Jefferson, not Bush.
If you're a boxer you don't compare yourself to Pee Wee Herman, you compare yourself to Mohammad Ali.

Here is Jefferson;

"[FONT=&amp]Tho' I have been aware of the authority our cause would acquire with the world from it's being known that yourself & Doc^t. Franklin were zealous friends to it and am myself duly impressed with a sense of the arduousness of government, and the obligation those are under who are able to conduct it, yet I am also satisfied there is an order of geniusses above that obligation, & therefore exempted from it, nobody can conceive that nature ever intended to throw away a Newton upon the occupations of a crown. It would have been a prodigality for which even the conduct of providence might have been arraigned, had he been by birth annexed to what was so far below him. Cooperating with nature in her ordinary economy we should dispose of and employ the geniusses of men according to their several orders and degrees."

But now we have this;

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I suppose that Obama wouldn't have even had the ability to converse intelligently with Jefferson about hammers.

 

Yeah well I think I am an MMA champ.

 

"If you keep the image of Obama constantly in your mind, your unborn son, a seven-month old fetus, won't have all the world’s unspoken marking s of a criminal — the wrong skin color and the wrong name. Instead, he may turn up to be the second Obama."

I wish to bring your attention to the world "may" in my last sentence above. It implies two possibilities:

1. Less than 35 years for another black person to get the job.

In this case, one or more black Americans may get the job. Hence, the poster's son may not turn up to be the second Obama but the third or even the fourth or fifth Obama.

2. At least 35 years before another black person can get the job. The reason has nothing to do with Obama's performance, but a long queue of other racial groups vying for presidency such as Chinese American, Korean American, Indian American, Filipino American, Vietnamese American, Japanese American, Hispanic or Latino, not to mention the White majority.

Race and ethnicity in the United States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_demographics_of_the_United_States

Demographics of the United States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States

 

he's 3....and has never seen pro-wrestling.

i had an offer to go pro when i much younger. i should have taken it.

 

methinks most of us would have trouble would have trouble conversing with Jefferson's farrier about hammers.

 

being the second largest racial group, black is many times more likely than Indian (7/11, not casino), but there are 2 in the national spot light that are on that track. i can think of no current Governors or Senators who are black, which is the predominate previous office of successful canidates.

 

names are important.... give your daughter a stripper name and wonder why she becomes a stripper. Naming her Gertrude also has issues associated with it, even though it was your great grandmother's name and it's to honor her memory.


you can claim all day long that passing over resume's with the name "DeShaun" on it is racist.... but the fact is, it happens. I want my kid to have every opportunity possible. Me burdening him with a name that could hurt his future prospects is an important issue. Many immigrants in the 1900s gave up their culturally unique names when they entered the US for the same reason and changed them to "American sounding names" This is not unprecedented in the US or the world. It's also going to happen in the future too.

tell me.... if a resume' with the name John Smith came across your table, and another one with Muhammad Achbed binLaden.... which one do you think is more likely to get the callback for a typical job?

 

That is a sad commentary.

 

it is.... but denying it is ignorant. I'm not saying it's right.... but it's human nature. It's been that way in the past, it will continue in the future.


It's like dressing for success. How does me wearing a suit and tie make me a better candidate for a professional job than a guy that walks in wearing jeans and tshirt? It doesn't. But reality says, noone is going to hire you for a 100k+ job wearing bluejeans.... While there are always exceptions.... to ignore this because "it shouldn't matter" is naive.


same with names.

 

Stating that "it is what it is"...and being part of the perpetuation of that are two different things.

One is acceptable, and one isn't

 

I didn't say I was going to not hire achmed.... All I said is, I'm not going to name my son achmed because I know what would happen. It makes things harder for him.


I'm also not going to name my daughter "Misti Jugs Beason" as that dooms her to a career on the pole.

 

Hopefully, one day we can adavnce ourselves to a point where we can remove all vestiges of human nature as defined by Bill Mahar, Oprah Winfrey and MSNBC. And our supreme mission as US citizens are to become the full pattern of pop culture through government mandates and intervention in every aspect of our lives and comings and goings.

 

Respectfully...knock it off....forget the slippery slope...and just start by judging people by the content of their character and thier employment experience/references.

It's not an unreasonable thing to do.

 

Thank you for your reply,
Your reference to the slippery slope fallacy isn't applicable to the advancement of a phenomenon that has a tangible history. Your slippery slope would apply to a stationary boulder at the top of a mountain, not the one rolling near the bottom nearing terminal velocity.
Are you advocating that we as US citizens in this day and age should 'judge' one another? My gosh man this is treason on the highest order! Levity aside, the John Doe/Achmed Bin Laden scenario assumed that both were equally qualified I would think, as opposed to an automatic dismissal.
Unreasonable or not unreasonable.....that is the question. I don't know, one guy thinks he has the right to use his experience and intuition as to prosper his own business and livelihood. While the next guy thinks he has the right to be employed where he wants independent of the owners right to use his experience and intuition as to prosper his own business and livelihood.
Its a tough call. I think I'll side with the guy that worked his whole life and put all of his eggs in that basket and took a chance at self proficiency and its potential for profit at the risk of losing everything. Yep, I'll take his side in lieu of the clock punching dude that keeps asking when 'break time' is. But that's just me.
This is the verdict, you can be tough and savvy and possibly make a buck, or you can try to satisfy some Rockwellian vision of American Utopia which has a cost. You assume that a mans experience and judgements have no basis in fact.

Respectfully, no really respectfully,