Will current climate drive gun sales to even higher levels?

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by QLB, Oct 5, 2015.

  1. RP12

    RP12 Well-Known Member

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    Yes because in your make believe world only those on the right purchase guns /face palm.
     
  2. Grizz

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    I never said that - you did - and it's from your "make believe world", not the reality most of us inhabit.
     
  3. RP12

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    I took it from your OP. If you dont like it dont post it. You are not ranting about people buying guns you are ranting about those on the right buying guns... As typical nothing but partisan crap.
     
  4. Small Town Guy

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    AHHHH the general social survey, that one has been disproven so many times even anti-gun nutters don't bring it up much. LOL In 2013 the media was desperate so they quoted any flawed study they could. The gun control topic is awash with more current articles of not only gun purchases being up and new gun owners as well.

    Yepper- left wing anti-gun nutters (a sick pathetic bunch) are the ones driving up gun sales and new buyers. Sane people don't rely on the gubbermint to protect them, they do it themselves.
     
  5. QLB

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    Your fantasy. Just so you see it, I will post it again. A snippet from CBS News Nov 19, 1994. You can google the rest.

    FERGUSON, Mo. -- Some suburban St. Louis gun dealers have been doing brisk business, particularly among first-time buyers, as fearful residents await a grand jury's decision on whether to indict the police officer who fatally shot Michael Brown.

    Metro Shooting Supplies, in an area near the city's main airport, reports selling two to three times more weapons than usual in recent weeks - an average of 30 to 50 guns each day - while the jury prepares to conclude its three-month review of the case that sparked looting and weeks of sometimes-violent protests in August.

    I'm sure you get the picture.
     
  6. Grizz

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    You took a fact that what's driving gun sales is right wing nutters and then turned it into this:

    ..only those on the right purchase guns ..

    And NOBODY ever said that - it's nothing but a product of your imagination (and faulty logic to boot). Now, explain to my why that kid in Oregon needed 13 guns, because I can't figure it out. or why anyone would need an auto loading, with large capacity magazines that looks like a military weapon. To hunt deer? :roflol:

    Yep. Nutters. Like I said. Same bunch that stormed the gun shops when Obama was elected.

    Your assertion highlighted above cannot be accepted without a valid link that also explains why the number of guns sold is increasing while the number of households with guns (especially Dems and Independents) is decreasing. Do it, and I'll be happy to change my opinion.
     
  7. nra37922

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    OK, ALL you anti-gun folks, foreigners don't need to reply on this one, HOW MANY of you have a big sign in your yard or window stating that yours is a gun free lodging? If not when why not?
     
  8. Nightmare515

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    Well Democrats are pretty much stuck in between a rock and a hard place on this issue. On one hand they have to say something about this to cater to their voters who want more gun control. But by saying something about gun control they scare people into thinking the hammer is about to be brought down thus resulting in fairly large increases in gun sales.

    It's a damned if you do damned if you don't situation. Talk of pushing for regulations to decrease the number and types of firearms and magazines in the hands of the public has literally increased the amount of firearms in the hands of the public. So it backfired, but if they just remained silent and said nothing then their voters would be furious with them for not trying to fix the problem.

    The masses don't think very far outside of the box. The smartest thing for Democrats to do is to simply be quiet and stop mentioning gun control and start working on whatever "solutions" they want privately. But the democratic voters would be mad believing that their party is just ignoring the issue. But the second they open their mouth screaming for gun control a huge chunk of the population panics and starts buying even more guns.

    The fact that there has been such an increase in AR-15 sales pretty much shows how many in the public view their leadership. People are buying them up quick either hoping to get grandfathered in if/when the federal government passes an assault weapon ban or they are buying them up with zero plans to give them back regardless of what the government says. I highly doubt that folks are buying up guns to just keep them for awhile and return them if/when the government drops the hammer down.

    To be honest it's almost comical.
     
  9. RP12

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    I took your post in context and replied it it.. If you dont want partisan trash pointed out dont post it.
     
  10. Jim Rockford

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    Liberals do a great job of trivializing don't they? Hilary's e-mail, Benghazi, Lois Lerner, Fast and Furious and so many more. I could go on , but in the words of your trivialist leader " What does it matter". Because the left is too blind to see the truth through the thousand veils of deceit they wear.
     
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    I have no leader.....
     
  12. Grizz

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    Terribly sorry, old bean, but, as I pointed out, you winged off into fantasyland.

    Trivialize? Naw, just smart enough not to fall for political nonsense. Like - how many Benghazi hearing have there been? how many pages of testimony? And what have you found? Nada. Nothing but the inflamed imagination of the right keeps it going. Know something else - you ain't gonna find anything because it doesn't exist. Ditto Hillary's emails or any other manufactured bit of nonsense the right has been peddling for years. Now, go buy some gold from Rush or Glenn because the world economy is about to collapse (which it will if we elect a Repub prez next year).
     
  13. OrlandoChuck

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    Since firearms aren't registered, there is no accurate way to know how many households own firearms. I'd like to see proof of your claim the the number of households with guns have decreased. Please don't use a small sample phone poll as proof because it is not.
    Its hard to believe that the number has decreased with firearm sales numbers going through the roof.
    Ammo manufactures are at full capacity and can't keep up.
    Concealed carry licenses are growing exponentially.
    Wait times at ranges are becoming all too common.
    The shooting sports are one of the fastest growing sports in America.
    College scholarships in the shooting sports are increasing each year.
    As a concealed carry instructor, I have many, many first time gun owners applying for licenses. At the annual conference for instructors, most all are reporting the same increase in numbers and usually first time gun owners.

    Please show proof of your claim.
     
  14. Regular Joe

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    Prices? AR15's have not been as cheap as they are right now in my memory. If you have a budget of $600, you can choose from quite n array of brand new AR's.
    Ammunition? You can feed that new, cheap AR with quite a variety of ammo that costs about 3 for $1. Prices have DROPPED. So much for informed discussion.
     
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    Yep. I just this morning bought another 1000 rounds of PMC 5.56 for my M4, and paid about .33 per round. Cheapest I've ever seen it.
     
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    Thats a good price..... I make my own ammo at .13 per round.
     
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    What's your time worth? I've always been interested in that, but I can't find the time. I'm mostly just a back-40 plinker anyway, so really accurate, or highly consistent ammo is not really all that interesting for me. BUT, if there was a machine that would do it automatically, while I slept, THEN I'd be interested! :D
     
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    I read last night that Tula has come out with a new offering. It's a 75 gr. HP, priced the same as their 55 and 62 gr. ammo, at $6.99/box. That's fine, if Tula works for you.
    All over the Country, new ammo manufacturers have popped up. Locally, we have one who is doing a very brisk business, selling .223 for $300/1,000 rounds. That's pretty much the going price for 9mm and .40 S&W as well.
    This is one of the very few areas in our whole economy where the Kenyan has actually stimulated job growth.
     
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    Steel casings? I run Tula 7.62x39 in my SKS, and it's fine. I don't run steel casings in my M4 though.
     
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    There are a couple that I know of. The Dillon 1050 can be automated, as well as the Hornady ammo factory. Only trouble is, gee whiz, the whole set-up is a bit expensive.
    My preferred hand load actually costs close to 40 cents each for .223, but there is no other way to get this load.
    My cheap plinking .223 load is more like 16 cents each. Chuck must be using Armscor bullets.
     
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    Same here. Steel for the AK and cuddly, malleable brass for my babies. Still, if you haven't read this:
    http://www.luckygunner.com/labs/brass-vs-steel-cased-ammo/
    you might be mildly amused.
     
  22. Professor Peabody

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    Roll the Dice my friend.

    https://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/armed-citizen/
     
  23. Grizz

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    There are multiple polls and reports that indicate the number of homes with guns is down even as sales of guns are up. Most of that started with the election of Obama and the subsequent rapid rise of ODS on the right. Do they count every gun? No, and we both know why they can't. However, a consistent finding among respected pollsters over time appears to confirm it.

    Welcome to the world of Obama Derangement Syndrome.
     
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    OK, goody for you and the boys (girls, too, I suppose). However, those wonderful prices haven't reached my neck of the woods yet. Was in my local gun store a month or two ago, and those weapons that looked battlefield-ready (like AR-15's, AK-47's, and such) were well over a grand apiece. So, anyway - where do you get these prices? I might buy one for my Texas son-in-law for Christmas.
     
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    It's not for me to do your thinking, or your shopping, for you.
     

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