Will current climate drive gun sales to even higher levels?

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by QLB, Oct 5, 2015.

  1. OrlandoChuck

    OrlandoChuck Well-Known Member

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    I use Extreme bullets, Titegroup powder and federal primers and used brass.
     
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    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Interestingly, I had a phone call one day from a pollster asking about firearms in my home, amongst other things. I told him there were no guns in my house. IMO, it would take a moderate to severe case of idiocy to tell some yahoo on the phone whether you have a gun or not.
     
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    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Straw purchases are not legal, so you best take your son-in-law shopping, or risk 10 years in the federal hooskow.

    Here ya go, though: Del-Ton AR15, $609 including shipping to your favorite FFL.
    Don't forget the ammo! PMC NATO 5.56 55gr ammo, .33/rnd
     
  4. Grizz

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    Aw. Not even willing to share a wee piece of your vast knowledge with someone who is not as well versed as you on the prices of guns. That's just not nice.

    Don'tcha just love what passes for a logical counter argument from the right? They used to upset me, but now I know they're just the result of listening to Fox and all the chattering classes on rant radio. I mean, it's great - no thinking involved - they give you the story and quotes of the day and the "dittoheads" just run around parroting it.

    Anyway, could you please tell me how many mass murders have been committed in Britain by knives? I have a feeling it's not quite as many as we've had with guns. Thanks.
     
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    WOW! I did not realize these things had come down that far. Even a S&W M&P15 Sport AR-15 is only a bit higher. At those prices, I could get one for myself, son-in-law and still have money left over from a purchase here from Bass Pro Shops or my local gun store. All I need to do now is to come up with a good explanation for Momma Bear. :wink:

    I get those on occasion. I just tell them to skip the question; they can draw their own conclusions.
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    First you post the section of the general social survey containing the data that supports your assertions. Then we'll talk. Give their collection methods and numbers.
    Thanks
     
  7. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

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    Define what constitutes an arsenal, in terms of the number of firearms, and rounds of ammunition. Do not through around vague, undefined terms as if they were answers themselves.
     
  8. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think Obama is about to get his pen and phone out. He isn't going to Oregon to give sympathy, hes going there to exploit them and use them for defense in his gun grab executive order.
    We'll see if Im right over the next few days.
     
  9. QLB

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    Therefore no evidence will change your mind. Look up the definition of a delusion. No wonder Savage says liberalism is mental illness. So typical, so liberal, and oh so very hypocritical.
     
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    QLB Well-Known Member

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    The statistics didn't come from Fox News that I am aware of, unless they are repeating Britain's own statistics, and the point that completely went over your head, and in keeping with the tunnel vision gun grabber mentality, (no surprise at all) is the lack of guns increased criminal activity (by guns, knives, bombs etc...) significantly. Some government sources (2012 stats), probably the one's you refuse to acknowledge because they do not reflect your demented agenda, actually show an increase of crimes upwards of 35% - over 80% in some areas.

    In the mean time, no gun areas with the most stringent gun laws in effect have the highest crime rates and the highest murder rate. And save me the "Duh Duh Duh, dats bucause they are getting guns in the safer less stringent gun restricted areas, and taking them back to the areas where the people (who abide by the idiotic restrictions placed on them by wiener headed gungrabbing nut jobs) are sitting ducks for the criminals who don't pay any attention to the laws to begin with". %$#@&*%$#

    IOW, It isn't the lack of guns that keep people safe, it is the abundance of law abiding citizens who responsibly arm themselves that keep places safe.
     
  12. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    The stock market thinks so.
    http://radio.foxnews.com/2015/10/07/bullet-points-gun-stocks-surge-amidst-mass-shootings/
     
  13. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Over 2000 murders this year so far in Chicago.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Nothing illegal about giving a gun to somebody who is allowed to own guns and lives in the same state.
     
  15. Hotdogr

    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Question 11a on the 4473 states:
    "Are you the actual transferee/buyer of the firearm(s) listed on this form? Warning: You are not the actual buyer if you are acquiring the firearm(s) on behalf of another person. If you are not the actual buyer, the dealer cannot transfer the firearm(s)"

    One could not truthfully answer that question if they are acquiring the firearm on behalf of someone else, under threat of federal felony. In fact, I was told a my local Gander Mountain that I could not purchase a weapon as a gift for my wife (who is also a CCP holder), for this reason. Were they wrong? (If so, I'm going to let them know!)
    to you.
     
  16. perdidochas

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    I believe they were. On behalf, to me, implies that you are doing it at their request. A gift is not that. In a gift, you are actually buying the firearm for yourself, and then you are transferring it.

    http://www.guns.com/2013/12/12/gifting-guns-need-know/
     
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    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good to know! Thanks.
     
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    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    This...

    I think that due to the current climate in the country right now people just aren't admitting that they have firearms. Many folks just flat out don't trust anybody with such information.

    I for one know that if I ever got a phone call from a poll taker my firearm count would be at zero as well.
     
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    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is exactly the same reason I don't plaster my car bumper with NRA stickers, or open carry. It's a really stupid thing to do, that does nothing but make you a target.
     
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    I understand your reasoning, but there are 2 sides. I know people who don't respond or lie when given a questionnaire, and I understand they are doing it out of well placed fear of the government and the gun banner crowd, but what they are doing is being indirectly intimidated into silence, and by skewing the poll data towards the gun banners they are giving the gun banners a basis for their claims. If all the gun owners would stand up and openly confront the banners, then we would overwhelm the gun control crowd.
     
  21. QLB

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    Meanwhile the FBI announced that this September was the biggest in history for background checks, defining the largest sales for a month since this has been tracked. In fact, the last five months have been record breaking. There's a lot of truth in the statement that Obama is really the best gun salesman ever.
     
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    And that's powerful evidence that the gun banners are not in the majority, but we still need to confront banners directly at every opportunity. Make the environment unfriendly for gun banners, make it clear they are in the minority and their views are not wanted and will not be tolerated.
     
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    It's not that gun sales are increasing but magazine and ammo sales are through the roof. Case in point is that Ruger has announced they are entering the ammo business. The latest stunt for the libs is to tax ammo, something they did in Seattle and are thinking about in LA. It's not like you can't find other sources, but libs think that way. They lose the tax base and other providers benefit especially those out of the city limits or internet dealers. And then they drive sales upward. Why buy a 100 rounds when you might as well get 500.
     
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    Since Obama, during the first term debates, said he would like to implement and expand the alleged 'assault weapon' ban to handguns, he insured he would become the 'gun salesman of the century'. Dems talk of banning guns, simple as that.
     
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    This week SeƱora Klinton announced she would use dictatorial powers to limit and ban firearms. Can you imagine the market this will produce, much less the sales. The bangers aren't stupid either and will stock up. Plus they'll seek outside sources for firearms in the process.
     

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