Will Islam establish sharia law throughout the world?

Never more than you mate

But you said that Muslims want a Caliphate. So which one or what kind? If you know they want one, tell me what they want exactly.

 

Didfferent muslims desire different types of caliphates. Did you have a point you wanted to make? I didnt think so.

 

Give us an example of these "different caliphates"

 

Do some research, you look like a fool right now. and Roman Catholic ain't Christians by no stretch. Though a lot of people blindly believe that. and both Hutu and Tusti were Christians before all the German/Belgian meddling, genius. Even Habiyarimana was a Christian before the Roman Catholic invasion.. The divide and conquer came from Belgians who were no Christians.

"Both Germany (before World War I) and Belgium ruled the area in a colonial capacity. They allowed only the Tutsi to be educated and only they could participate in the colonial government. Such discriminatory policies engendered resentment.[citation needed]. When the Belgians assumed control following World War I, they asked for advice from the Germans, who told them to continue promoting the Tutsis, which they did."

Now you have to ask yourself, if the Belgians(Roman Catholics) were such Christians why
would they de-stabilize and divide and conquer other Hutu and Tutsi Christians to Civil war?

Doesn't make sense does it Astronaut?

It seems YOU need to learn more about the Roman Catholics and realize you can't slap a Christian tag on that sect of religion because they are not Christians. Thems heathens in the sight of God. Similar to the
so-called "Jews" in Israel today.

 

Sharia law is archaic.

The people of this world will not stand for it.

 

Oh I see! So what kinds?

Nope, I jsut want to see how ignorant you are of the tripe you spew out.

You dont think much generally, so...

 

What the hell are you talking about?

Um... I never even mentioned this. LOL It is in no way relevant to what we were discussing. YOU made an epic idiot of yourself by saying Rwandan genocide was started by Muslims which is completely false. Now just look insane. Please admit you made stupendously stupid comment and accept the fact you need to read more about said issues.

This isnt relevant.

You dont think it was because of Christianity? Well, well done champ, you finally realized religion is hardly ever the root of such events. So now apply that realization to Islam and you get my point.

They are Christians, by definition.

Sorry mate, you are talking complete lunacy.

 

I have said and still feel moderate Muslims are ethical, good kind people. However I feel if the radical Muslims were ever to achieve dominance, moderate Muslims would quickly go the way of the dinosaur. Everyone not Muslim, not just Christians, Buddhist, Hindu, atheist, agnostic, would be converted, if they refused they would die IMO. So, believe it or not the west with the majority of their population claiming Christianity are the first line of defense against such a eventuality, and truly are a continuation of the Crusades, the knights Templar, and other vestiges of early middle ages and modern Christendom. Christendom? Despite the separation of church and state the nu Christendom and the nu knights includes the USA armed forces and to a lesser extent the armed forces of our allies. That is just the tip of the professional army of Christendom's iceberg. That, and that alone (ie armed force) is what will stop the Muslim radicals from infecting the world.

reva

 

How so. You havent yet even contradicted me. Just responded with stupid questions.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caliphate

 

Has anyone ever said something so profoundly wrong, and funny, that it kind of messes up your head?

When I read this, my first instinct was to laugh..but my mind went right past laughter, and I kind of sat there stunned, like the laughter was building somewhere in my psyche, like too many airplanes in the pattern at an airport. I kind of twitched a bit, then just sat back. It was almost like an acid trip, and I don't take drugs anymore.

Thank you 4horseman, for the thoroughly enjoyable experience. I will never look at Jesus the same way when I go to mass, and will always have a chuckle on hand.

 

Does that mean if Rick Santorum becomes president, that most Christians in America will go fundamentalist?...and start passing laws against contarception, and sex outside of marriage?

Middle easterners are no more gullible than any other people on Earth.

 

bahaha as much as you want this to be a cosmic conflict, it isn't. I do want you to know Rev that I was in mostly agreement with you until this last line or so (what I mean is, I'm not arguing with you for argument's sake). Anyway, rather than being a world issue the 'crisis of Islam' as Bernard Lewis termed it, is in fact, I would argue as others like Reza Aslan have, a conflict restricted to the centers of the Muslim world, particularly Egypt, home to the theological center of Islam and home to arguably the most influential Islamist group the Muslim Brotherhood. The Middle East, unlike other Muslim regions (there are more Muslims in Asia, btw) has the center of the world's imagination as the 'home of Islam.' The conflcit of the creeds identity is in many ways centered on the conflicts there. In that sense, what we are seeing is a burgeoning Islamic religious evolution, what I would term as a 'lesser' reformation. All Western societies, or rather secular world communities do is continue as they did before and continue to export their ideas. Islam will sort itself out as time goes by.

Total nonsense, even dangerous nonsense actually, but go on...

Christendom is dead in the same way the Caliphate is. Neither exist, and I am about 99% certain neither ever will again.

 

I'll say it again, You said Muslims want a caliphate. If different kinds, which kinds?

 

So which particular Caliphates do Muslims want? Give me some examples and mention the organizations. Start with Al Quada you are fond of them, or how about the Muslim Brotherhood? Tell me their legal, that is sharia based theology and the social institutions they plan to foster. Go on. Dont tell me you just said it because that's what you read on jihadwatch but didnt actually check or read something credible about? Dont tell me you just say all Muslims want shariah but dont know the slightest thing about its diverse manifestations.

I'm laughing and waiting for your response. Its show time.

 

Thats a stupid question, not a contradiction. A question that has been asked and answered

 

Asked and answered.

 

You said Muslims desire different caliphates, so give examples. haha its so funny to see you squirm like this.

 

Where are your examples of the different caliphates they desire? A link to past caliphates is not evidence. You need to show me actual information that shows modern Muslims says x,y and z are the caliphates they want.

 

Evidence please....LOL


Singing scary hymnals into hollow high ceiling cathedrals and splashing creek water on people doens't make one Holy...lol


Where in the Bible is Holy Water mentioned or even used?

Secondly, Is there even such a thing as "Holy Water" ?? what makes it Holy?


Catholicism = Blasphemy

 

Riiiight............because people are born knowing about the "so called Jews of Ashkenaz"...........

 

Idiotic question. Caliphates arent classified into types. There are only past examples. Im sure some Russians wish for a return of the Soviet government. If you were to ask them "WHICH" Soviet government, they could only refer to Soviet governments of the past.
Sunni Salafis, who seem to be making most of the terrorist noise lately, would likely point to the first 4 rightly guided caliphates as the correct caliphates to emmulate.

And they only want ONE caliphate, not caliphates x y and z.

 

Thanks for the wiki Caliohates link.

I read that the Ahmadiyya Caliphate is not recognized by mainstream Islam, and that makes sense, because when I was in the middle east, nobody spoke of the Ahmadiyya Caliphate, or any caliphates for that matter.

They did talk about Ataturk in sweeping romantic terms, and how he needed to delegitimize the Sultanate by characterizing it as a caliphate in it's death throws.

If there is no caliphate recognized by mainstream Islam, aren't we just flailing around in the dark?

 

All Caliphates applied Islamic doctrine as law. The details are unimportant. And its not "mainstream Islam" waging this worldwde campaign of Islamic terrorism but is instead the Islaic fundamentalist, a minority of muslims.

 

Agreed.

Hopefully our spec/black ops folks are paying close attention to that minority who perpertrate terrorism.