Will Islam establish sharia law throughout the world?

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Will Islam establish sharia law throughout the world?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    68 vote(s)
    73.9%
  3. It depends on how successful the 21st century Christian crusades are

    14 vote(s)
    15.2%
  1. Goldwater

    Goldwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't believe you.
     
  2. Mehmet

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    there cannot be any reform in islam.
    who are we to modify Allah's (God's) words?
    instead we should lean towards understanding the qur'an correctly.

    Allah gave us intellect, but we (muslims, christians, jews; mankind) are
    acting as blood thirsty animals.

    the violence is an issue for mankind.
    people take scriptures however they suit their needs and implement
    them according to their agenda.

     
  3. Goldwater

    Goldwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This guy you repsonded to is a sock puppet for sure. Probably just another one of the anti Muslim posters. His stories have an odor.
     
  4. OJLeb

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    The only people who ignore parts of the Quran are the ones who use the Quran to hate on Islam, not Muslims.

    All the sects of Islam read the entire Quran. The differences are other things, not including the Quran. Again, showing your lack of knowledge on Islam. Understanding the context of verses does not mean we ignore certain verses. Every word is that of God.

    What is the issue?

    Also interesting how you ignore what Christian missionaries do.
     
  5. Goldwater

    Goldwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They don't stone them in Turkey, Iraq, Jordan, Lebabnon, or Syria either.
     
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    Who attacked the towers? What types of governments execute women for not listening to the men?

    Go tell those doing this they are wrong.
     
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    oh i didn't know you wanted special attention?
    i'm sorry... sure buddy, why not?
    here... i pasted especially for you. enjoy:

    qur'an abrogated all previously altered scriptures and laws,
    and restored the true religion of Allah (God), until the end of time.

    this time the message is not left to mankind to carry,
    qur'an is protected by Allah, not one single letter has changed.
     
  9. Archer0915

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    Does; as I asked, the text I quoted mean what it says? Yes or no? If no then show me the last text.
     
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    Women are not "executed" for not listening to men... and 19 expat dissidents attacked the Towers.

    Lies don't enhance credibility.........
     
  11. Mehmet

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    read what i posted.
    otherwise don't waste my time.
     
  12. Archer0915

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    Which is it?
    Quote:
    Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.
    Qur'an 2:256

    or

    Quote:
    But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
    Qur'an 9:5

    Abrogations in the Qur'an are an issue.

    This is 9:5

    9:5-6 But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah. and then escort him to where he can be secure. That is because they are men without knowledge.

    So it is compelling conversion, eviction or death. Are there any abrogations in the Qur'an for this yes or no! It is a simple question that you can surley answer.
     
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    Not only does the first post of this OP fail to mention the important context (whether political, economical, etc.) that must be identified when analyzing conflicts and regional violence, it also contains blatant nonsense. Indeed, is it possible for the OP to explain the "ethnic cleansing and genocide" that occurred in, for example, the United Arab Emirates? I doubt he/she can, given the fact that he/she copied and pasted similar erroneous text in another thread, some of which I duly refuted (he/she has yet to tackle my refutation of said falsehoods). Thus, it would be quite foolish and asinine to take the OP seriously.
     
  14. RiseAgainst

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    Leave it up to none other than the Mooslims to justifying their horrific slayings.
     
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    As expected, the OP replies with a daft and meaningless remark.
     
  16. Crawdadr

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    It is funny the same type of garbage was said about the Catholics and the Jews throughout history.....Oh no if we have a Catholic President the Pope will rule the country! Oh no the Jewish bankers are taking over the world! Oh no!!!!!!!!!!:puke: Geez people why are we not past this?
     
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    True.. there's no end to what religious people will do or say to steal the land and resource of others....

    Look at the Nazis and the Conquistadors.. our destruction of the Plains Buffalo and the Plains Indians..
     
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    To this date...I have not seen one single poster...at any time....ever!......."excuse" terrorists, or terrorism.

    This is just another fantasy that the GOP and Christian media made up. You know....Obama is a socialist, Democrats hate God. Leftists are coming to take your guns. Etc.....
     
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    That's why is a massive block of unsourced cut and paste.........
     
  20. Archer0915

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    Actually it is the fact that there "IS" a large fringe element of Islam. I know that much does not apply to the average Muslim as they, like many Christians, are living a basic philosophy. Yrs they believe in God but they live by a philosophy.

    There are fringe Christian nuts out there as well but they are pretty much contained. The fringe Islamist on the other hand is not.
     
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    both and all of them.
    now go back and read my post to understand.

    if you still stumble, i'll clarify.
     
  22. Crawdadr

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    Of those three only the Conquistadors supposedly did it in the name of God though if you notice the Church did not recieve the gold stolen from the aztecs and Incas it was the Spanish crown. The Nazis attacked and destroyed the religious in their country and the destruction of the plains indians was done in the name of expansion and so called progress.

    The first part of your response does not support your second part. What your response shows is that the strong take from the weak. Religion has nothing to do with it. Human nature on the other hand has a big part to do with it.
     
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    I'm not sure...there is an active network of abortion clininc bombers and doctor killers that isn't contained.

    I think this has more to do with the effectiveness of law enforcement within a country than it does religion. It's way harder to be a terrorist in the US than it is anywhere else. We're isolated, and foreigners stick out like sore thumbs, plus we have so many layers of effective city, county, state, and federal law enforcement. And we have the CIA, FBI, NSA, etc...
     
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    The Spanish Crown and the Church were basically the same.. If you doubt ti, tour the ancient Cathedrals in Spain.. and the Inquisition and Witch Burnings, the slaughter of the Cathars were definitely for the Church and gold or property.
     
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    The Spanish Crown used the name of the Church as a control tool and subverted many parts of the Church in Spain. The whole Christian world was not behind that. The burnings of witches was not cuased to gain control of land and gold either, a VAST majority of those killed were the poor and or disabled in villages across Europe. The Cathar heresy was a docterine issue that lead to an internal fight between Christian groups, it was an horrible respponse by the Catholic Church but agian not for riches.
     

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