Will Republicans Elect A Pedophile?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Lesh, Nov 9, 2017.

  1. Natty Bumpo

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    I miss the nutty "Birther" derangement. Thousands of invisible folks cheering terrorism in NJ, millions of them voting against Trump (or were they the invisible millions at his inauguration?), Obama bugging Trump Tower, etc., etc., etc.

    Ah, for that golden age of conspiracy lunacy when Hillary Clinton dropped 40 kilo blocks of lime Jello® off of 4-storey buildings onto Vince Foster's noggin!
     
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    Wow...someone actually agrees with science and not the LGBTQ lobby.

    Calling the AMA a conservative group is one of the best jokes I've heard all year.

    Liberals respecting the rule of law is the second best joke of the year. No evidence has been produced to support collusion with the Russians in tampering with the election. Unless you count the machinations of the Clinton campaign to make sure she got the nod instead of Sanders.

    Actually they do require a conviction and cannot remove him if elected. They could censure him sure. By the way, where are you on the Al Franken debacle? Shouldn't he be removed, they have pictures.
     
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    You can fantasize that the AMA that defends establishment medical practices are a liberal group if you enjoy doing so.

    If you are upset by the Trump Justice Department's Republican Special Counsel, the Republican-run Senate investigative committees, and the Republican-run House investigative committees looking into the finding by the CIA, NSA, and FBI that Russia conspired to pervert the US election in Trump's favour, you can pretend that they are all your demon "liberals" as well.

    What the GOP leadership in Congress does with the child predator is their business. You are free to yell "Liberals!" at them if they come up with a way of getting rid of him.

    If Frankin is also deemed by the US Senate unfit to serve as a senator, he should be removed, just like any other senator. Of course, his admitting the truth and apologizing, unlike Moore, may make a difference. That's up to the Republican-run Senate.
     
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    So you would actually hold that molesting minors would be ok if it weren't against the law?

    You really don't find anything intrinsically bad in the sexual molestation of minors by a 30+ year-old.

    Huh! Whaddayaknow!
     
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    I never said that or implied that and you know it.
     
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    The Bible never spells out no sexual harassment, so this is going to be a tough one for Bible believers....do they side with god, or with women's rights. Modern Secular Humanists side with women's rights. Christians, the ball is in your court. Too bad Jesus isn't actually real or of course he'd come down and tell them "no sexual harassment" (I would of course, if I had his alleged super-powers, but I'm probably more loving than Jesus, so I understand why he doesn't do that.)
     
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    I don't know why, maybe it's because he's not as well known as Moore.

    I guess the concern you have is about the media, and not the victims?

    I will do what none of you can do, and say right off without hesitation this guy apparently is a complete scumbag and is unfit for office. I sure as sh*t would not vote for him just because he's a Democrat.
     
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    Moore is no more.
     
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    You do imply that by being a Bible believer, because the Bible approves of taking sex slaves from captured tribes.
     
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    But not beyond the statute of.....MORALITY.
     
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    Their god raped a 13 year-old, so no, they don't have a problem with it.
    Muslims don't have a problem if Mohammad had sex with a NINE year-old, so to be fair it can be argued that most Muslims are no more ethical/caring than most Christians are.
     
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    You are not considering it in the context of the times. Women taken prisoner in that era were completely without rights and protections. Ordering that they be married into the tribes of the conquering Jews meant that they received protection and rights. It was a serious attempt to extend human rights and protections to the losers in a conflict.
     
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    Incredible. Absolutely incredible. People defending sex slavery. Wow.
    Note to Jesus: Jesus, you are a lousy ethical role model (just look at what your followers defend!)
     
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    You're not being open minded and making adjustments for the cultural mores present two millennia ago.
     
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    Too bad GOD didn't know right from wrong back then - he just apparently went along with the barbaric, savage, disgusting HUMAN mores of the time. You'd THINK an "all-knowing all-caring" creator of the entire universe would KNOW right from wrong - gosh, I guess I expect too much from an all-knowing entity - silly me!
     
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    God is perfect. Humans are not. Accommodations had to be made.
     
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    So which one has outlawed slavery, and which one still to this day approves of slavery in his Bible? Ooops, seems like your invisible friend in the sky ain't so "perfect". I'm better than you invisible friend because I care enough to condemn, in no uncertain terms, his barbarity of approving slavery - even beating of slaves to DEATH, as long as said death drags out past a day or two: it says you can beat both male and female slaves with a rod so hard that as long as they don’t die right away you are cleared of any wrong doing:
    When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
     
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    You do know that most of the abolitionist movements were built around churches?

    I didn't think you did.
     
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    So you admit that your all-knowing invisible friend in the sky got it wrong about slavery, right, and that Modern Secular Humanism gets slavery more right than you god does, right?
     
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    So in your moral opinion it's "perfect" to kill innocent children - the innocent first-born sons who your "perfect" invisible friend who lives in the sky (allegedly) killed in Egypt. Remind me to never invite you to babysit my children.
     
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    Why did those church-goers NEED to change it if it's from your "perfect" god!!!???
     
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    Why? Secular Humanist did not end slavery.

    Also if you refer to God as "invisible friend in the sky" or anything else similarly snarky I'll stop responding to your whining.
     
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    God is perfect. But humans are free moral agents and absolutely NOT perfect. Slavery was an institution built by humans. God tried to make it more humane.
     
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    He is indeed invisible (or show us photos of him - go ahead, we'll wait - or else I'm not wrong now am I). And he does indeed "live in the sky" - that's why Christians pray looking UP. I'm just being honest. Apparently the truth hurts. The truth only hurts when one is delusional, it can be argued.
    Have a great evening.
     
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    We have something similar in our laws today.

    In my state and many others if you are negligent in a car accident and severely injure someone, if they die immediately or within 30 days of the accident you can be held criminally liable.

    But if the person survives more than a month you are no longer considered liable for their death.

    This is the legal concept that unrelated, intervening acts can cause a persons death.
     

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