Will we eventually have to bite the bullet and forcibly repatriate illegal immigrants?

I have not said that at all.
"You have made it clear' indeed!
You have to have a warped perspective to see that kind of clarity.

 

America - The White people have to give back all the land they stole from the Indigenous people.

Europe - The Muslins immigrate there in droves and take over whole neighborhoods. The concern is, what will be left of British, French, German and every other culture in Europe. That’s okay by you, but if the Europeans “invade” a Muslin country and try to overwhelm its culture you would condemn it.

Yes, you have made it VERY CLEAR.

 

What? Where'd you come up with that nonsense?

Or is it, you don't have anything of relevance to say, so ad hom nonsense is what you post.

 

This isn't about disapproving of something in their countries past, it's disapproving of it's exitance in the first place. That seems to be your position.

As for your claim of hypocrisy about current day immigration, I honestly don't understand how that could be a point. Since almost everyone worldwide came from somewhere else, no nation can enforce borders or control immigration because...what exactly? You're not making an argument, you're just presenting your mood.

 

OK so there was no point to you bringing up native Americans then.

 

It is what you were suggesting.
ITMT you likely have a point on Unions. Sweden and Norway have a higher standard of living than do we in the US and they have NO minimum wage. Their higher standard of living is attributed to strong unions.

 

Suggesting an increase in middle wage, to you means, I don't want people to succeed and move upwards.

See, that's why I called the stupid ad hom silly as you had nothing of value to say.

You made up total BS.

Unions have been decimated by the RW in our country. Also, helped by the greed that unions were pushing for. Just like the greed of the corporations who want labor as cheap as possible.

So, since we have small union representation of most workers, min wage is the next best option.
If you think Sweden and Norway models are good.

 

Minimum wage should be super unimportant as it is just a starting pot for mostly kids (except for people with special handicaps that deserve social assistance that would be outside of wages earned.) Saying otherwise does suggest you hold such a recipient in low regard, like they can't do anything else. I think, if motivated internally or externally, they can and should.
I write that if a kid thinks he can roll out of bed, go to a local shop and get a min. wage job and that's all he'll ever need, I promise you, that will be devastating to the economy. And for the prospects of that kid? No man likes to say this, but I've failed upward (Every job I've had falls short of other people's expectations of me including my parents, wife, her family and even our kids) and thank goodness for that. Otherwise, I might have thought I was fine as it is. 6th grade teacher told us to aim high. If you fall short you're still somewhere. Aim low and fall short, oblivion.

Outside of globalism, not sure what the RW did to hurt, that could hurt, unions. And globalism is a uniparty thing. ITMT: Cesar Chavez warned of what uncontrolled immigration was doing to union workers and he was right. The Left is much more about that sort of thing. And energy. With exceptions, I think the right much more about reliable energy. Those union steel workers will not have a job trying to compete with the Chinese, that are putting up many coal plants to power their industries, while the left pushes for eagle and whale killing windmills.

 

You're the only one saying that, so why are you trying to attribute it to others?

 

Again your stupid non sense BS about me not wanting or thinking people can't move upwards.
Absolutely nonsense. Stay on topic, which is not the lies you post about what I want.

Take a look at States that have right to work laws, most are red states. Some purple states.
The R party has been doing what they can to end Unions. That is even a party platform or has been.

But also, on the flipside, Unions got to greedy and ruined good companies with high wages and benefits.

There should be a mutual relationship between management and workers where all gain when a company does well.

And in the ideal world, there'd be no unions, because management would understand that a well trained and paid workforce in really in the best interest of making a good profit.

Every country, including China, is working to reduce fossil fuels as the main source of energy.
But if China wants to harm their natural resources of water and air with dirty sources, that's their problem.
The USA already went through acid rain and water catching fire with over pollution.

Windmills killing whales? Do tell, offer up that story.

Are you a tree hugger? Do you not want logging either in areas where there's other birds?

 

ad hom attacks is the go to mantra when there's no substantial argument they have.

 

Truth hurts. You did start with statements one could reasonably infer one to think you think such people should not be expected to grow. If that was not your intent, why the concern for minimum wage laws?

China may give us good lip service, but...

Yeah, wind turbines can kill though I concede there is debate on whether or not they're killing whales.

https://newbedfordlight.org/whale-c...ineyard-fuel-speculation-about-wind-turbines/

When it comes having a cleaner world with better energy policies, I have to believe we can do much better than this.

Oh. This is an immigration thread. Gotta get back to it.

 

Not even close to a reasonable inference. For logical minded people.
I am not too worried about some truth hurts comment from those who think wind turbines possible kill whales.

Min wage laws typically cover the remaining 10% or so of workers who are not in the industries that have to pay, typically service type workers.
All the min wage has done throughout history is bring up the bottom 10% of wage earners closer to what others have been making for several years.

 

What happens is you say something, others then tell you what you say really means ‘x’.
Err no, what you say is what you say.
If I say European settlers were dreadful towards aboriginal North Americans, then others will say ‘you mean all white people are bad, and all others are good’.
Those who twist your words are wallies.

 

If we condone lawbreaking it will never stop.

 

But what if someone else points out aboriginal North Americans were very deceitful and murderous to European settlers? There are many examples you know....does that get your panties in a knot? Or is it just popular to attack the more efficient culture? Those who don't approach history on balance are "snowflakes"!