With All the Information out, Do you believe Trump should be President again?

Where the hell did you pull "animals don't die" from?

 

President Trump was a great president with a great record. His presidency and the attacks against him and the way he and his supporters are being targeted for destruction has clearly shown the American people the incredible corruption ingrained in our FBI and career government officials. I didn't see it before...but it's obvious now.

 

Absolutely unequivocally yes he should be president again.

He is BY FAR the best president in my lifetime. I look forward to round 2

 

Facts

 

None of that is relevant. I believe in democracy, which is letting the voters vote for who they want to vote for. Why are you for taking democracy away?

 

Democrats want to suppress the votes of over 70 million voters. That pales in comparison to any lefty claims about republicans wanting to suppress votes.

 

Funny and your point made. Nonetheless, this is a politics debate board and opinions are the main dish. Everyone has an opinion on Trump, one way or another. Asking the simple question as to whether you want him back as president or not is simple and does not incriminate you in any way (such as your question would). Simply stated, if the question was "Do you think beating a wife makes a good husband?" Would you feel comfortable answering that question?

 

Ummmmmmmmmmmmm, that is what democracy is, it is the votes that count. Why are you against voters deciding elections?

 

The basic question of the thread is horrendously dishonest.

All we know about Jan 6 has come from a COMPLETELY biased committee who edited testimony, shortened testimony, asked leading questions, was ONLY willing to produce evidence which supported their position and REFUSED to present evidence that was exculpatory even though they had it and declared their investigative target guilty before they even started their investigation. The same committee who had sitting members of the House stating on national television UNEQUIVOCALLY and without doubt that their target was guilty of crimes such as treason over and over and over and over again.

The same committee who has been bottlefeeding their information to the DOJ and yet have been able to produce exactly ZERO charges against the man they are declaring guilty of crimes without equivocation on national television.

So to now ask “with everything we know” is ABSURDLY dishonest. Because we ONLY know what those biased pieces of trash on that committee WANT us to know.

 

You mean asking questions is framing it in some way? I did ask for everyone to explain why they would (or would not) want him back. Do you not feel the need to express your thoughts on the person that is leading you and your country? What are you afraid of by stating your opinion and feelings? after all, you guys do that consistently with Biden, don't you? You all say he is the worst and don't want him re-elected and now you are doing the opposite when it comes to Trump?

By the way, I once again want to REMIND YOU that the OP is not about politics. It is not about Republicans versus Democrats. It is about ONE MAN that has shown he has no morals, ethics, principles or humanity. As an example of what I am saying, Reagan was a Republican but he had all for of those guidelines. He had morals and ethics, he had principles and was humane. I didn't agree with everything he said but I respected the man and was not unhappy that he was president. Heck, Bush Jr. was a miserable president but he too has morals and principles and he was humane. He was incompetent but he too was a man that I had some respect for.

Trump? I have no respect for him at all. Zero, Nil, Nothing. He is a miserable "human being". He is the scum of the earth, in my personal opinion.

I just wonder why you (and so many others) keep finding excuses for not stating whether you want him back or not and why? Can you explain that?

 

If you already are convinced that Trump is a bad man, then what is your point in asking us what we think? As I tried to point out to you I can only conclude that it's that you like to argue for the sake of arguing. That, imo, is rather childish.

 

I said repeat. The fact that you don’t care that a sitting US president gave credibility and repeated this shows everything anyone would need to know about your character.

That is your party in a nutshell. The reason y’all love him is because he says what his base is too cowardly to say.

As to Biden saying he was going to use the military against Republicans without prior action by them (if they are engaged in a coup then I hope he does) — post it — and I will immediately denounce it and not vote for him.

 

Maybe because he's interested in your opinions? Sheesh. Quit being so cynical.

 

I doubt it.

 

Here we go with the debasing comments (when you have no answer to the question, insult).

Do I have to remind you that this is a DEBATE board (not a teaching or listening board) where each person states his case and awaits the rebuttal from the opposite view? It is an "ARGUING BOARD"! Asking questions is part of any debate as it allows you to see what the other side thinks and what their plan of debate is going to be.

As such and with you asking this question, are you here to debate or to orate?

 

I've given you my opinion. What part of that are you having trouble rebutting?

 

So you are a ok with him rapidly increasing the divide in this nation as well as severely harming several institutions and processes that are required for our successful existence? All because he stalled government

Fascinating

 

Let's see

The OP asked

1) if Trump is re-elected it will be a catastrophe
2) if Trump is re-elected it would be great
3) if Trump is re-elected, it would be neither good nor bad

and I asked people to explain their choice.

You have NOT answered the OP question.

And yet you have criticized me for even asking those questions. I am having TROUBLE in understanding what you are doing here on a debate board?

 

I wouldn't answer it. I would turn it around as an indictment of the character of the lawyer who used it.

Yes, it is a forum of opinions- and the objective of some is to form a lynch mob mentality, to control opinions to their own purpose- not examine facts.
The left has managed to turn Trump hate into a cause celeb for it followers; to the point of losing all sight of principle.

The state of the nation right now the worst in my lifetime, without question. That's fact, not just opinion.
Trump saw this coming, and wanted to rally the people to turn it around- and that does mean loss of power fr the people who put personal advantage over the strength of the nation.
These are the people who make up the "swamp". Trump's stated objective- was to drain the swamp. Kind of a declaration of war on the people who profit from it. Instant enemies, consisting of ruthless people unimpeded by codes of ethics or honor. It's not the color of your tie or your hair or even the difficulties of your business past that should determine judgement of any leader- it's performance.
When they can't attack that honestly, they do so dishonestly. When that doesn't work, they attack the man in as many ways as possible in an attempt to taint the message. It's a game, a strategy- and many who use it think they are being wise or patriotic, when in fact they are being used like cannon fodder, to make noise and confusion. That's both wrong- and sad.

In the word games, the twisting of definitions to destroy judgment and values, you might want to consider the word "leader". What it means, without distortion.
A true leader is one who is followed by choice- informed choice, and there is a bond between the objective of leader and follower; a bond of purpose, of truth- and of the obligation to keep your word.

A false leader's "followers" are not actually following; they are being driven and baited. False promises, false claims about any other choice, creations of fear, the surrender of their power for the promise of security. and the undermining of their strength to deprive them of the options to do anything else.

Trump drew crowds of tens of thousands all over the nation, and still does. These are followers, people in common cause with the idea of America being a great country- an honorable country.
Biden drew crowds of 200.

Comparisons between the performance in office of Biden to Trump would produce similar scores to the turnouts of the rally's they held.... 10,000 to 200.
The left tells us that the candidate that virtually nobody wanted to hear, would appeal far more strongly to the voters than the candidate everyone wanted to hear.
Just my opinion... But nobody who believes that is smart enough to come in out of the rain. Or the hailstorm we are in right now.

Move on.
Trump is no longer president, and hopefully, you can see that the state of the nation today indicates an epidemic of a kind of brain cancer- impaired functions of cognition, judgment, productivity, all over our society. Focus on fixing that for a change. Trump can't, the haters have made sure he could not succeed- and that is precisely how we wound up where we are.
If you don't like the bedside manner of the very best surgeon, you hire him anyway because he is the one you need. Unless you are a fool, and will hire an incompetent surgeon because he seems like a nice guy.
That's what we have now- lip service and incredible incompetence- and failures everywhere.

Happy with that ? IF Trump was the answer to that, would you want him back? Your turn- answer that question.

Obama was right. "Never underestimate Joe's ability to f - - k things up". Did we fail to listen, or how did we wind up in this position?

You're a smart man; I wish I had a way to get you past the obsession with Trump- to an obsession with fixing the nation. Don't have to have Trump to do that, but we do have to have people with vision.

 

LOL. I don’t believe you.

If I gave you a list of problems with the theory of evolution and the first item was “animals do not die” you would take the list seriously? Only if you are a fool.

 

You expressed an opinion which I attempted to show is not a fact open to debate. Opinions cannot be debated; they can only be agreed or disagreed with. If you don't understand this I can't help you.

As far as your option choices, I would merely say idk (which was not an option choice). However, based on how the country was doing during his tenure I would guess that it would be better off with him then it currently is with the dumbass-in-chief occupying the office today.

 

You gave the list and then said only a fool would take the list seriously . . . sorry, but that sounds like a confession.

 

Your #1 example was an obvious flub, so bad you are totally discredited.

 

Get with the program, read the posts, it’s deliberately an example of a blatantly incorrect statement.

 

Sorry, but you ignored the word "if" which made it a hypothetical.