With Russia Sanctions Bill, Congress has Just Begun World War 3 - The Missiles will fly within month

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  1. Ninian

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    It's not like it SAYS IN THE BLOODY FUСKING LIST THAT IT SANCTIONS THE BANK THROUGH WHICH MY MOTHER RECEIVES HER WAGE FROM HER EMPLOYEE.

    http://www.usrbc.org/uploaded/web/Documents/Sanctions/USRBC Combined Sanctions List.pdf

    Last page, second from the top - "Bank of Moscow" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_of_Moscow

    My parents have long term deposits in it. "nobody going to be" bloody harmed?!
    How about a quote? "When banks fail it's not bankers who starve." What I might say about perspective of my parents loosing their life savings to your sanctions - is a thing that may earn me a permanent ban on this forum. I will wisely stay silent. I will tell you instead, that risks my people face there are not jokes. It is not funny when enterprise collapses or bank goes bankrupt, when people loose their future and loose the fruits of their efforts in the past and rendered propertyless.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Clinton never said anything close to that and neither did I.....please stop putting your words into my mouth as they taste disgusting.
     
  3. osbornterry

    osbornterry Well-Known Member

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    Ronstar (aka: Obama was president in 2006) is upping his game. His last bets were for only $50.00.

    You could ask him for a post-dated check.
     
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  4. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I suspect in the end, Russia will win the economic war as increasingly countries and populations of those countries want to move from the American economic (and military) camp to the Russian camp.

    Russia will sell it's oil and gas to China, plus many European countries will tell come to tell the USA to go to hell and buy it from Russia as well. I anticipate Russia will expand it military arms sales dramatically.

    The real "massive attack" Russia may be able to pull off is taking oil and gas off the US dollar. If that happens, watch people's retirement accounts vanish in value as inflation goes thru the ceiling. If China, Russia and a few other key countries can take the world currency off of the dollar, pay $20 for a loaf of bread.

    The world is getting tired of the USA very quickly, including the EU. Russia and China are far more stable to deal with than the USA's neocons, Deep State insiders and money elites.
     
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  5. Ninian

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    In other words party that lost elections told you to blame Russia and overthrow elected president. And you are following. You are told to sabotage democratic institute and give aid to one party yo put their representative as head of state - and you are following. You are told foreigners are only ones to blame - and you are following. Well, go on - march forward! I even got a song fitting for you:


    Conveniently called "Left March". God, it's hilarious and horrifying how you are managing to follow footsteps of Bolsheviks.
     
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    I'm surprised that no one has mentioned one aspect of this bill is that it removes the president's power to rescind sanctions once applied without congress approving.

    This is a bald usurpation of executive authority. The imposition of the current sanctions on Russia et al were the result of executive order. Now this bill comes along and prevents Trump from rescinding Obama's executive orders.

    Once again our government has pulled a propaganda coup on the American people; raising unfounded fears and false characterizations to such a level as to 'do the wrong thing' for some created 'right reason'.

    This, folks, is how we step away from the constitution and hand our country over to special interest crazies. Our republic is dying the death of a thousand cuts and this sanctions bill is just the latest.

    Have fun ignoring that while we get into a pissing contest with Russia (look, a squirrel!!).
     
  7. trucker

    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    us dollar is taking it up the ass of late down again today
    http://www.cnbc.com/quotes/?symbol=.DXY
     
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    Actually, I simply believe the massive intelligence apparatus this country has built over the decades, Find Donald Trump to be an incompetent child with no redeeming qualities, and blame our own politicians as well as Russia for allowing this degradation of my country.
     
  9. JakeJ

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    That is exactly what she said. She said she would order the US military to attack the Russian military in Syria. The USA Commander of the Joint Chiefs of Staff - the highest of all military officers - before Congress was asked exactly what that would mean. He gave a 3 word answer: "WAR WITH RUSSIA." He proceeded to say the US military wouldn't do it, an unprecedented statement in response to Clinton's unprecedented vow to have the USA military directly attack the Russian military with in the Russian sphere - no different than if Putin vows to shoot down American civilian and military aircraft over Germany.

    That was the end of Clinton. The Deep State would eliminate her becoming president, for which Comey rushed to a microphone 10 days before the election to declare Clinton was so privileged and rich she could not be prosecuted, and repeatedly assuring everyone that Clinton was reckless, incompetent and a liar - and the Deep State leaked massive info against Clinton.Only someone truly insane wants a direct HOT shooting war between the USA and Russia - a war WE start. Clinton became so warhawk she became too dangerous.

    All that was left was to block President Trump reaching detente' with Russia to preserve the COLD war's profits and even escalate them, which is what all the Russian investigations have accomplished - als all by the Deep State intelligence community.

    Until Clinton came along, the Democratic Party very much wanted detente' with Russia. Not anymore.

    By your messages, you are 100% a Democrat partisan who rants and chants whatever they say, no matter how contradictory to what the Democratic Party said last week or last year.
     
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    [​IMG] another run up for gold today the us dollar is starting to drown in its own debt
     
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    The USA has no defense or economic stake in Ukraine whatsoever. I understand Democrats love Ukraine because the Ukraine government in direct collusion with the Clinton campaign gave that total-lie attack report, that was quickly debunked. Most democrats LOVE collusion with a foreign government if it is for the democrats.
     
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    The reason Obama unconstitutionally ordered war against Libya and the head of Libya killed to turn the whole country into chaos is because their leader was urging oil producing countries to go on the gold standard - to require payment for oil in gold. This would have shattered the US economy so he had to die and his country had to be destroyed in a 100% unconstitutional war.
     
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    nonsense.

    no one has enough gold to use as a currency nor does any nation want to
     
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    Since Putin has 90% support from his population, maybe they should reconsider supporting a government whose actions led them to such economic misery.
     
  15. osbornterry

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    What you "suspect" was foretold 50 years ago. It was not true then. It is less true now.

    The US is the rock star of the world. People envy the rock start. People want to be the rock star, but they can never be the rock star. Russia is no different.

    Russia's economy is stretched to the breaking point. Oil is her only export. Under the USSR, the Russians maxed out oil production to stay up with the West which depleted the fields and contributed to the end of communism. Thank God.

    $100 per barrel oil re-floated Russian ambitions for a while, but now oil prices are less than half and staying down. The Russian economy will break AGAIN if this continues.

    In the meantime, America is using new techniques which could make us energy independent in the near future. We may even export oil.

    If we export oil to Europe and Europe's dependence on Russian stocks ends, the Russians will be finished as a political power.
     
  16. Ninian

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    But you elected this "degradation". You had what, four dozen candidates at start? And at end you had Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump left. Over ALL these people this two were ones people chose. Again - if there was nothing to expose about Hillary there would've not been a problem even. I can understand how we have corrupted politicians, used to bribes and scams. They were making money all ways they can in 90th and now settled for fine lives as bureaucrats - but this tendency at least is dying out. They growing old, they leaving their posts, our government gets cleaner.

    How did YOU ended up with such mess? What now, you will assume that my government deliberately been spoiling government of USA over the years to make your politicians corrupted, hungry for power, dirty in their methods?

    Did WE taught supporters of your main parties to hate each other with such vigor that they are ready to forgive any, ANY shιt their 'leaders' have done just for sake of them being democrats or republicns? We taught you to march masked over streets, throw molotov cocktails at police and harass strangers?
     
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    Russia Seizes US Properties, Orders Cuts to Diplomatic Staff in Retaliation Against Sanctions.....


    Russian President Vladimir Putin responded to sanctions Friday by ordering the U.S. to cut the number of diplomatic staff in the country by September and seizing two American diplomatic properties.

    The retaliation comes one day after the Senate approved sweeping new sanctions against Russia, which still need to be signed by President Trump. As Fox News reports, however, this is not a guarantee as the legislation “bars Trump from easing or waiving the penalties on Russia unless Congress agrees. The economic sanctions also targeted Iran and North Korea.

    “This yet again attests to the extreme aggressiveness of the United States when it comes to international affairs,” a statement by the Russian Foreign Ministry said.

    The number of staff is to be reduced to 455, Russia said, which is the same amount of Russian diplomats currently in the U.S.

    The Russian Foreign Ministry further warned that if the U.S. responds to their action with even more expulsions, Russia would match them, the Times reports.

    According to Sergei Ryabkov, the Russian deputy foreign minister, the new sanctions cripple any chance of improving relations between the two nations......snip~

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahb...ssia-retaliates-against-us-sanctions-n2361432

    Oh well.
     
  18. Ronstar

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    LOL!!!! gold was at $1,800 an ounce in 2012.
     
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    I quit reading when OP article characterized 1930s Japan as a 3rd world cesspool. With a base like that, youh can only assume the rest is garbage too.
     
  20. osbornterry

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    Did the article mention that Japan's industrial capacity in the 1930's was only ten percent of the US capacity? They were insane to start a war with us.
     
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    I guess you missed the part where I blamed OUR politicians.....I did not vote for either of them.
     
  22. Ninian

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    First of all - find who told you about "90%" and smear a mayo sandwich in their face. With a push, so it gets in their nostrils and they have to smell it for rest of the day. Give that clown a smack.

    The highest number he has is 82,7, and it does not directly mentions Putin - it's "approval of work of president of Russian Federation". With simple "Yes/No" responce possible.
    https://wciom.ru/index.php?id=236&uid=116191

    The trust rating, for example, on that exact website shows that only 48,7% of respondents stating they trust Putin, with other options being other notable politicians.


    Work with actual materials. Do not trust headlines, find information yourself. He never had 90% approval, nor he ever had it personally in relation with competitors.

    As for government - it was not our government who staged a coup in Ukraine in 2014, it was not our government that sent soldiers to subjugate referendums in Lugansk and Donetsk, it was not our government who supported this course of actions by sanctioning country that had ability to reslove this shιt peacefully. Should we all collectively migrate to USA and elect for you a Bernie Sanders or something?
     
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    They didn't really want a war us. They wanted to keep us out of their wars in the Pacific.
     
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    u mean their aggressive invasions and conquests
     
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    Let me re-phrase.

    If they thought they had the capacity to keep the US out of far east and run wild, they were insane.
     

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