Woman Blocks Man From Entering His Apt Building -- By The Way, He's Black

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  1. cd8ed

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    He piggybacked off of her. I’m having difficulty understanding what the comprehension problem is here. I’ve even quoted the definition of piggybacking.

    You have piggybacked or tailgated a vehicle to enter a secure premises without entering in you code or swiping and were not stopped? I’ve done it twice and was caught both times - threatened with termination once,

    No more bullshit that claiming to know the internal choices of this woman
     
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    Where are you getting that he didn't enter his code.

     
  3. cd8ed

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    It’s in the video. She asks him to enter his code and he refuses.
    It’s within the first few seconds.

    I would provide the direct dialogue but YouTube is apparently down (is the world ending!?)
     
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    ……….and the problem is what, I see folks do it all the time.

    Yep seen it done plenty of times and I have never seen anyone start confronting folks or call the police because of it.
     
  5. superbadbrutha

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    What authority did she have to tell him to do anything.
     
  6. cd8ed

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    Exterior security points exist for a multitude of reasons. I don’t know the area specifically but it could have been anything from optics to a selling point to a preventative safety feature - or all three.

    We have had vastly different experiences then sir.
     
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    She didn’t have any authority but once he refused she would have been well within her rights to call the police or building security. But this would have likely been viewed as racism also.

    Answer this, let’s say she let someone in off the street, helped them to bypass the locked front entrance - into the secured building where your family lived - this individual then harmed your family in either a hall or your domicile. Would you have wished she had stopped them? Honestly.
     
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    I have watched the video from quite a few news outlets and it doesn't show that he actually piggybacked off of her, the video shows her standing at the door as he was entering.
     
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    She did call the police.

    She didn't let someone off the street, he lived there and the video doesn't show she let him in or that he piggy backed off of her.
     
  10. cd8ed

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    Please answer the question.
     
  11. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What exactly did she do that proved her intentions were based on his skin color? We can assume all day but you are making a definitive statement. Where is the evidence?
     
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    lol at the training story. I work in IT as a Developer. I was a Technical Trainer for two years. Because the instructors had to be there before others I sometimes had the key to let people into the classroom area. There were multiple rooms and instructors and students changed weekly. There was security at the front desk of every facility that I entered. At one memorable facility, you stopped at the front desk, showed your id, and a guard checked a roster and told you which elevator to get into to reach your floor. I never harassed anyone else if they got on the elevator that I was asked to board. I didn't ask them for proof that they could also board and I certainly wouldn't follow anyone on an elevator if I found them to be suspicious. I would not have followed them around the building or confronted them threateningly, as a petite woman who doesn't carry a weapon. I would have told the front desk security guard. I never felt the need to do this by the way. If you ask me the woman's behavior was not rational and it was suspicious, which is why some people suspect racism. Whether it was racist or not, it wasn't the brightest move.

     
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    I saw a clip from CBS News. In it he clearly said, I already buzzed in and you are blocking my entry to the building where I live. Based on what I saw, she was totally out of line, even before the irrational subsequent events.

     
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    Enough chars
     
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    Incorrect, he said “and I’ve buzzed in” she reply’s “no you have not”. His next response is “it doesn’t even matter”. He does not have his key fob out and refuses to show her. That is not indicative of him using his own fob to enter seconds before.

    While I would not have acted like her I absolutely would have closed the door and allowed him to reenter using the appropriate procedure.
    If he would have resisted me closing the door I would have assumed he was attempting to break into the building and would have acted accordingly, reguardless of his ethnicity.

    Furthermore, not one single person has identified where the racism is - besides how they “feel” or what their assumption is. I would say those are not enough to convict someone but you never know anymore - she did lose her job so people with the “every interaction between a light skin and a dark skin is racist” croud has already won. Which is quite frankly - disgusting.

    Both of them escalated the situation
     
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    If she made this statement to police she should be charged. Source?

    Edit: I cannot find where she has even been interviewed - I think you mistook
    https://www.stltoday.com/news/local...cle_0dc0327d-aa36-5025-a3a5-bbf8a49c7754.html

    He said the event was because of his race, age and apparel.
    He is “positive” it would have escalated had he not recorded the incident.

    He also has retained an attorney...
     
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    I read the article that you linked to .. why don't you believe him when he says that she claimed he attacked her ... If you read further down he said she claimed he choked her. This will only add to the reasonable suspicions of racism. He is saying that without the video, it would have been his word against hers.

     
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    Where did she say this?
    I don’t care what he said she said, I care what she said directly. Did she make that claim to the news or the police? It’s not on the video he has up.
    She has been interviewed and never said it that I know of.
     
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    This incident is really harmful to African Americans, IMHO. The guy refused to buzz in, lied about it, lied about her touching him even though the video shows she had one hand on the door and was holding something in her other hand, then he assaults her as he literally pushes his way past her. If you look at his Facebook page, it's filled with racist and misogynist comments by his friends, some of whom are advocating violence against the woman. To his credit, at least he put out a statement saying he doesn't want people to harass or bother her, but it seems like he's just covering his ass after the damage he's caused to both her, himself and race relations in general.
     
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    If you look back I've already addressed this by stating that she should be charged with wasting police time
     
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    They both handled this like children. She acted like a self appointed nerd hall monitor, he like kid with a chip on his shoulder. She could have said "never seen you here before you just move in? " . That would have given him a chance to disclose whether he is new or not. She should have said "we need to keep our building secure so if you were visiting you need to ring the apartment or unit to buzz you in". If he got pissy at that point then she could have taken the next step.

    He should have " I never saw you here before either did you just move in?".

    He probably was super sensitive with those reports of Blacks being reported for:
    Inspecting while Black
    Barbecuing while Black
    Walking while Black
    Breathing while Black

    Maybe the way to make Blacks feel less sensitive is to surpress the First Amendment and not let news outlets report any of those stories of Barbecuing while Black. Just kidding!
     
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    "Furthermore, he entered a secure building without using his pin (she asked him to enter it) - he went through a door that she had made unsecure. Had monitored security been present he would have likely been stopped and asked for identification - irregardless of his gender or race."
     
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    I think you're projecting. It is the liberals like yourself throwing the temper tantrum. Conservatives like me are loving life.
     
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    On what source did she say, "No you have not?" I felt that he was patient, under the circumstances. If he were a woman, elderly, or a child would she have reacted the same way? Probably not - gender, age and race sometimes affect the way that people are treated. I can't say what was in her mind, only that I can see why some people suspect that he was racially profiled. It's too bad that she was suspicious about him, he is suspicious about her and commenters also seem to find the actions of one or both to be shady.

     
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    Ahh, the ole personal attack when one has nothing to say that is pertinent to the topic.
     

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