Woman who fatally stabbed man 108 times gets probation, no prison time

It’s not fictional. Google is your friend.

And try not to gloss over the cheap shot at CA. I mean , who are you trying to kid ?
Bullshit outcomes occur in states like Tejas too.

 

Yes, it sure does. I believe Houston is approaching 100 murders committed in the last few years by felons let out on low or no bail by leftist judges. That is absolutely bullshit.

The thing is, when you get high and stab someone to death, then get convicted and get no jail time....any reasonable person would absolutely only expect that to happen in california.

And I tried but couldn't find the story you claim is true. I have my doubts. Given that this is coming from you I fully expect there to be much more to the story assuming you are actually referring to something specific.

 

If you're rich enough in California... you literally can get away with murder.

 

No, YOU are talking about "panic attacks", the scientists are talking about psychoses. Literally all pot smokers I knew back in the day had experienced panic attacks, while only 1 in 200 experience psychoses.

No, spice found, only marijuana, as was the case in the stabbing incident as well.

I'm not even against legalization, I'm just saying we need to stop pretending there are no potential dangers, as there is with booze, Its not as harmless as advertised. Even cigarette packs have a warning label on them.

 

Politics was not the discriminator for this adjudication. !!!!!!

 

There are studies that do suggest that marijuana causes mental disorders. So I see how this was used as a defense but I honestly doubt that anyone who murders someone is without a mental illness of some kind. The ultimate problem here is liberals and more specifically the far left has normalized the term mental illness. Made it less of an evil and try to make people believe there is medical help for them. There’s not.

Crazy is crazy no matter how you look at it. If you’re crazy enough to kill people you shouldn’t be in society. I’m sure they are mentally ill but that’s not my concern. My concern is the people they are okay with killing. Slap them in prison for ever or give them the death penalty

 

I agree. Someone that is one bong hit away from stabbing someone should not be living among the sane.

 

No, I'm talking those instances the scientists are calling psychosis, mainly panic attacks and being an ******* but using being inebriated as an excuse.
You don't have a little psychotic break induced by drugs bringing out something you had a predilection for, and then snap out of it like she did.

The florida incident was spice. This incident I guarantee had a poly pharmacy component. If she didn't have a drink with dinner, I'll eat my ****ing hat.

 

You have to tell yourself that.

 

I'm not the one that sees conspiracies in everything.

 

lol....when you can verify it, it's not conspiracy.

Go on and do your homework if you want.

 

If alternate facts make you happy, then so be it. I have no interest in going around repeating everything to no end.

You are a perfect example of a pot-advocate who'll bend over backwards trying to downplay the dangers of pot, which is why we need to be very careful when we consider legalization. The advocates are NOT honest with their claims, so more study is needed before legalization.

 

Ok present what you got.

 

So you are admitting you, without any knowledge, claimed it was conspiracy?

Not even a little bit surprised.

I'll gladly show you how articles on murders in the Houston area amongst people let out on low or no bail. Don't have time now so it might be tomorrow. I'm also well aware that you won't care because it won't align with your agenda and lets face it, we all know that's what really matters.

 

Just present your facts.

 

All you're doing is chanting the same tired reefer madness claims.
This is affluenza and the ***** pass conspiring with 12 idiots too stupid or arrogant to get out of jury duty, tied up by a doctor who believes in reefer madness.
You don't just go psychotic then snap out of it and contribute to your own defense ffs.

You are a perfect example of someone who watched reefer madness and buys anything someone tries to sell you.

 

You probably have to be black to get off.

 

No, sorry I never saw the movie. I am simply sharing some medical studied about the issue. I don't care if they legalize it, but the proponents are not helping the cause by lying about the potential dangers. People see though the lies, and are likely not as eager to legalize it.

 

I'll take that as a yes to my question. You'll just call anything a conspiracy if it doesn't fit your agenda. It's clear who I'm dealing with.

Here's an old article (over 1 year) and the number was up to 156....so my original estimate was way too low.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/150-killed-bonds-texas-victims

And another from the local fox station in houston

https://www.fox26houston.com/whats-...-150-people-in-harris-county-whats-your-point

I'm sure you'll excuse this somehow.

 

Well you still haven't shown why a red state would allow them free on bail.

 

That wasn't the discussion. And the state didn't let them go as it wasn't a state decision.

Thanks for waving the white flag.

Even when I tell you what you're going to do, you do it anyway.

 

Then what is your point. You always have some conspiracy. You are the one that made a ca reference.

 

Sure sure bud. 1 puff of the devil's reefer was all it took for her to go whackadoodle and murder her boyfriend and not suffer any permanent effects.
I'd buy that for a dollar.

 

I've seen a few interesting things: "As evidence of Spejcher’s psychotic state, Schwartz pointed out that not only did she fatally stab O’Melia, but she also stabbed herself numerous times in the neck, almost killing herself, and she also stabbed her “beloved” Siberian husky. The dog survived...

Body camera video from the Ventura County Sheriff’s Office, which was introduced as evidence in the trial, showed a deputy using a stun gun on her four times and another deputy hitting a knife with a metal baton multiple times before finally knocking it away from her, Schwartz said Thursday.

Both Nafziger and Schwartz said marijuana can be dangerous to certain people, cause psychosis and prompt violence.

In September, prosecutors reduced a charge of murder against Spejcher to involuntary manslaughter after a forensic psychologist determined she lost her cognitive abilities because she was in the throes of psychosis, Nafziger said. She said there was no other drugs or alcohol in Spejcher’s blood during the stabbing.

A jury convicted Spejcher of involuntary manslaughter in December." California woman gets probation for fatally stabbing man she dated, causing 108 'sharp-force injuries' (nbcnews.com)

So she was actually psychotic - it wasn't just an excuse. She's lucky she survived at all acting that way with police. Most likely had she been a man they would have used a gun. This was part of the reason she got involuntary manslaughter rather than murder. Given all the facts, it seems a bit less ridiculous than a catchy headline on the story would suggest. If she also has no other history of violence, then it would seem reasonable.

 

Or she stabbed herself and her dog in her frenzy to murder her boyfriend and make it look like the reefer made her do it.

Tasers aren't all that reliable, particularly the drive stunning. The prongs are good, if they spread correctly and hit correctly. If not, it takes several tries if it works at all. Even on a regular person.
Knocking the knife out of her hand likewise, isn't so big a deal.

She is not psychotic, this didn't trigger an underlying psychosis.