Would You Care If Racists Are Bred Out Of Total Existence?

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by Shiva_TD, Mar 23, 2012.

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Would You Care If Racists Are Bred Out Of Total Existence?

  1. Yes, I'm an ignorant bigoted racists and have a right to spread fear and hatred

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  2. No, I'm an ignorant bigoted racist but too stupid to know better.

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  3. Yes, I'm not a racist but just don't care.

    13.6%
  4. No, I'm not a racist and agree society would be better off.

    77.3%
  1. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    There is increasing evidence that racism is a genetic disorder closely associated with low intelligence, irrational fear and "social conservative" ideologies.

    In a recent clinical study the low intelligence of racists was basically summarized by the following statement:

    http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html

    In another clinical study of children with Williams syndrome, a rare genetic disorder that makes them lack normal social anxiety where these children have no racial biases, the following conclusion was also reached:

    http://www.livescience.com/8189-individuals-rare-disorder-racial-biases.html

    It needs to be clarified that not all dumb people are racists or even social conservatives but overwhelmingly most racists are dumb people and are social conservatives. The studies do show that racism is also based upon irrational social fears. Stupid people tend to have more irrational fears than intelligent people.

    If we combine the findings of these to clinic studies we realize that genetically stupid ignorant bigoted racists are likely to have children with lower intelligence and then, based upon the irrational social fears of the parents, they are likely to brainwash their stupid children into becoming racists creating a vicious unending cycle of racism.

    Obviously no American would support mandatory sterialization of racists to prevent them from breeding and propagating but many can wishfully hope that they don't breed new generations of racists. Instead we hope that though education we can expose the hypocracy and fallacies that are being propagated by racists or, in short, teach the children that their racist parents really are stupid ignornant bigots that have irrational fears that create racial prejudice.

    So the questions in the poll really are hypothetical because force would never be used but hopefully members can express their opinions based upon the selections offered.

    Perhaps the ultimate question, whether a person is a racist or not, would world be better off if there weren't any ignorant bigoted racists?
     
  2. Trinnity

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    I think this thread is inflammatory. The studies reflect a political agenda, IMO, as well.
     
  3. Truthist

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    I reject the very premise of the question. How can you breed out of existence people who see the truth? Even in the nightmare world of a Communist country, and the novel 1984 that is an allegory for such a nightmare world, there were people who knew the truth. Face it, you cannot eliminate people who know the truth.

    "You can fool all of the people some of the time, and you can fool some of the people all of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time." Abraham Lincoln
     
  4. Think for myself

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    Would I care? I think the less hate the in the world the better.

    Obviously racism is unproductive. Obviously it seems to run counter to the claimed religious beliefs of many racists.

    Humans are one animal, one species. We carry similar DNA and the like number of chromosomes. I have never understood how one person can hate another simply because of the color of their skin.
     
  5. MisLed

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    This would mean the end of the hispanic, black and asian races. Plus a good deal of muslims. and every last scotsman in the universe.

    That's rather racist of you.
     
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    Indeed. People of that ilk will simply ignore the existence of numerous genius race realists, such as Watson (Nobel Prize winner who discovered the structure of DNA) and Shockley (inventor of the solid state transistor). People who say "racists are stupid and give me lots of lulz" are generally spineless, group think herd members who are merely parroting what they heard on MTV. In other words, they aren't exactly intellectual giants themselves.
     
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    Racism is an idea, a concept, not a race or nationality.

    I find it very amusing and disturbing that so much effort is put into blaming other races and other religions, such as you did, for a problem that exists in every race and religion.
     
  8. Truthist

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    Race != skin color

    [By internet convention, the combination of symbols "!=" means "does not equal"]

    Anyone who equates race with skin color has a kindergarten level understanding of race, which is hardly something to be proud of.
     
  9. Think for myself

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    There has never been a single shred of credible evidence or any sort of scientific study that would support your any indication that one race is more intelligent or predisposed to anything.

    You can cite all of the doddering old fools you like, but that does not make their random mumblings correct.
     
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    Oh, race is not indicated by melanin content of the skin? By all means, enlighten me. I welcome your perspective on the matter, rather than make backhanded insults.

    Please feel free to share your source of information with us all.
     
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    that's exactly what i was saying genius.
     
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    no. Race EQUALS Race. These are peoples that have known racist attitudes. And actually most of these attitudes are directed at other races with obvious differences. I didn't create it. I just noticed it.

    and after yesterday it's ironic that you come down on me for THIS.
     
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    You couldn't have made a more ridiculous statement had you repeated something from a young earth creationists like Hovind.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence

    And no, I am not using Wikipedia as a source. Rather I linked to that article because it is a repository for primary sources on the matter.

    Even liberals like Steven Pinker are starting to concede the very real possibility that there are heritable racial intelligence differences (translation: they know that the race realists are correct, and that it won't be long before gene sequencing proves this to the general public, so they are gradually preparing for this seismic event).
     
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    There is no doubt that the topic is inflammatory and inflammatory opinions are welcome on Political Forum so long as a foundation for respectful discussion and debate are established.

    I would question how the conclusion that the studies reflect a political agenda is reached or is this merely an unsupported opinion? We don't have any clue as to the political opinions of those conducting these studies and they have passed peer review which would certainly have identified any political bias. Obviously all clinical studies result in summary conclusions based upon the review of the facts discovered during the studies but even those summaries are subject to peer review.

    So are there contradictory studies that disprove any of the conclusions of these studies? If so I would welcome the introduction of those studies into this thread.
     
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    That post is addressing the user "Think for myself".
     
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    As I stated, to date there is no credible evidence, no scientific study that woudl indicate that race is related to intelligence. None.

    You can link Wiki all you want, but that certainly doe snot prove your point.
     
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    That does not appear to be the case. You linked me to nothing more than baseless allegations.

    Now if you would like to actually provide a bit of evidence that would support your position, I welcome it. If you want to continue making claims that have no basis, that is certainly your choice.
     
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    Actually it's the racists that misrepresent the facts related to Watson and Shockley typically because they're actually ignorant of the facts related to this two Nobel Prize winners.

    Gordon Hodson from the Brock University in Ontario, Brian Nosek of the University of Virginia and Andreas Meyer-Lindenberg of the University of Heidelberg in Germany all have excellent academic credentials and I seriously doubt that any of them have ever been on MTV.
     
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    These are not genetic "races" and, in fact, there are no "genetic" races as the very concept is an invention of society. From a genetic standpoint everyone is closely related with the same genetic origin which comes from Africa where modern man originated. In short we're all "African-Americans" in the United States based upon the genetic mapping of modern man.

    This is a fact that racists don't like to consider because it really exposes their irrational hatred and bigotry.
     
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    I'm not sure, on one hand it makes it really easy to pick out the folks who aren't worth having dialog with.

    On the more humanist side, it's an irrational behavior and as the evidence leads us to believe, it's a genetic deficiency, I don't feel any different about this than I do about breeding out any other genetic disease that can be detected in utero.
     
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    A very respected liberal scientist by the name of Steven Pinker sees the writing on the wall and is indicating that the truth of race realism is coming out:

    http://www.edge.org/q2006/q06_3.html

    Your side is getting the excrement kicked out of it when a flaming liberal is starting to concede defeat.
     
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    Before voting, I would like to ask the question I asked in another thread

    We must ask ourselves what we wish to breed out of existence.
    Bigotry, obviously, comes in all colors.
    So wouldn't it be more desirable to breed the wrong attitudes out of existence, rather than finding ourselves on the same side as color oriented bigots?
     
  24. Truthist

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    Yes or no, is it really your position that races differ ONLY in skin color?

    Since you appear to be traversing what I stated in that other thread (e.g., that there ARE physical differences other than skin color between races), it appears that your answer is "yes", but I want to make sure.
     
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    I noticed that you failed to provide details.

    Irrelevant. The rank-and-file are persuaded to accept this dogmatic nonsense through things lie MTV.
     

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