Would You Care If Racists Are Bred Out Of Total Existence?

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by Shiva_TD, Mar 23, 2012.

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Would You Care If Racists Are Bred Out Of Total Existence?

  1. Yes, I'm an ignorant bigoted racists and have a right to spread fear and hatred

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  2. No, I'm an ignorant bigoted racist but too stupid to know better.

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  3. Yes, I'm not a racist but just don't care.

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  4. No, I'm not a racist and agree society would be better off.

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  1. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My side? I tend to be on the side of decency when it comes to matters of race. Now if that makes me a liberal, I suppose I am guilty as charged. I would venture to so there are folks on both sides of the aisle that abhor racism and it's silly basis.

    I am not sure what "sees the writing on the wall" is supposed to mean. Is that a scientific conclusion, reached through a study with a comfortable confidence interval? Or is it the ramblings of an idiot?
     
  2. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course not. There are other physical features that differentiate, but skin color is a quick reference, is it not? I mean, I would say a black person is a black person, not a person whose nose is broader than Caucasian people.
     
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  4. Truthist

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    Good, then we have no argument on this point.

    Yes it is, but liberals will very often directly state, or strongly imply, that skin color is the only trait for which races differ. I therefore object when people equate race with skin color.
     
  5. Think for myself

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    I do not speak for "liberals". Perhaps you would be best served if you found their spokesperson and discussed it with them.

    As for the actual topic of the thread, I must say I am convinced now more than ever of some of the truthfulness to the allegations. There seems to be zero basis for the most adamant of racism. No one can produce a shred of credible evidence that would suggest that there is any difference, other than appearances and susceptibility to certain diseases, between the races.
     
  6. Zook

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    Racism is an ideology that some disagree with, but millions of people worldwide support. It's ludicrous to suggest low-intelligence is linked to a White person being sick to death of blacks statistically being more violent, criminally-inclined and generally useless. :)

    Besides, in my experience, around 95% of blacks I've met have been racist towards Whites. You're basically calling for the the vast majority of the black race to be bred out of existence. That's a bit racist if you ask me. :)
     
  7. Blasphemer

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    Voted option 4, of course. But mind you, it also applies to those racists who support affirmative action. Colorblindness for the win!
     
  8. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    The issue of "racial intelligence" based upon disparity of IQ scores is one of those obvious situations where the ignorance of racists really comes to the front. IQ testing has inherent problems that racists just tend to ignore rather than address.

    For example, there isn't a commonly accepted definition of "intelligence" for people. We know what the "test scores" are supposed to indicate but are they actually measuring intelligence?

    http://iq-test.learninginfo.org/iq02.htm

    Generally speaking the standard IQ tests used today measure a persons "intelligence quotient" as it is applicable to education and enterprise and this is a very limited component of overall human intelligence. For example the ability to think and resolve problems related to hunting game or surviving in a hostile environment, both of which relate to a persons intelligence, aren't measured at all. Why would we when they have little practical usages in todays education or enterprise driven societies?

    But igornant and stupid racists love to cite the disparity in IQ test results between "races" to support their bigoted fear and hatred of other "races" even though this is a completely bogus evaluation of human intelligence.

    We're likely to also see the disparity in criminal convictions between "races" presented as well although they completely ignore such factors as "arrested for driving while black" and the fact that social and economic discrimination are a major factor in criminal activities. They will say, "But segregation and discrimination were eliminated by the Civil Rights Act in the 1960's" because they are simply too stupid to see that the segregation and discrimination did not end, instead predominately it was only made illegal for for the government to officially support discrimination and segregation.

    Repeatedly we see the propaganda of the racists disproven by the social sciences as their propaganda is based upon half-truths where they seem to be incapable of actually understanding the whole truth. Of course it's unquestionably the fact that they live in irrational fear of other races. Other races are very scary to them and along with their lack of intelligence that fear breeds their bigotry and prejudice. The last thing they're willing to accept are facts that dispute their ill-formed opinions.
     
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    There are many wonderful people who are not very smart who I would not want bred out of existence (myself included depending on the standard set). Besides low intelligence does not always equal a need to blame and hate people for no good reason.

    Bigots are fools who are unable to distinguish things logically, like what a pertinent question of someone's moral fiber is (i.e you can not pin point it by someone's skin color, religious affiliation, or the country they live in), and what makes someone culpable for something (i.e you can not pin point it by someone's skin color, religious affiliation, or the country they live in). They should be pitied for the handicap they live with.
     
  10. Anikdote

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    I was waiting for someone to jump on this. "race realism" is a pathetic attempt at psuedo-science, the notion that you could reduce an extremely multivariate problem down to subjective test that target a single aspect of the human condition and draw any reasonable conclusions for that is a sorry excuse for anything that belongs in the realm of science.

    It's simply a means to justify what is an irrational behavior and possibly a genetic defect.
     
  11. Zook

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    Shiva, your posts reek of desperation man. :) You throw insulting words around like "stupid" and "ignorant" and "fear" in practically every sentence you make. Do you really think anyone can take your posts seriously? When it comes to racism all your posts sound the same. They're almost identical. The desperation to make yourself feel high and mighty and make racial realists seem "stupid" doesn't cloud reality for anyone who isn't brainwashed by liberal propaganda. We're not all gormless goyim, you know. :)
     
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    Because they accurately reflect the perspective. It's simply a case of "if the shoe fits".
     
  13. Goomba

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    Very good. Many racists view things in a very simplistic manner, and thus fail to take into account the more imporant context (of which you gave examples of) behind certain subjects. I don't say 'all' because there are racists who are quite aware of said context (though it is irrelevant to them).
     
  14. Shiva_TD

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    The first post was made while I was composing mine but it shows how predictable racists arguments are.

    It is amazing that racists can ignore the subjugation and discrimination of African-Americans for well over 300 years in America as being the cause for higher crime rates.

    For over 200 years slavery existed in America predating the founding of the United States by over over 100 years. Following slavery we had institutionalized discrimination and segregation under the laws of many states to suppress African-Americans for another 80 years until the Supreme Court decision in Brown v The Board of Education. Even with Civil Rights Act of 1964 racial discrimination continued under the law until 1967 when the Supreme Court ruled that laws could not prohibit African-Americans and White from marrying. That still didn't end the discrimination as it only help end legalized discrimination but the racists today continue that discrimination.

    Today African-Americans are twice as likely to be unemployed basically because of racial discrimination often by closet racists. Racists act like African-Americans don't want to work but that has never been the case. Instead, after literally hundreds of years of suppression and discrimination many African-Americans have come close to believing they may never get a job. I recall the average age for an African-American to get a job in Detroit back in the 1990's and it was 29. It wasn't that they didn't want a job it was because the door was slammed in their face when they applied.

    Not even the poorest or least educated "White" has the challenges to get ahead and to secure productive employment when compared to African-American. The generational dispair of African-Americans is reflected in all walks of their life. "Why get a good education if it doesn't lead to a job" has almost become a cultural fact for African-Americans. That doesn't even take into account that the vast majority of African-American schools rank lower in educational quality in the United States.

    But don't let these facts confuse the racist. They will blame it on skin color saying that African-Americans are more violent because of genetics. They are so bigoted and so ignorant and so afraid of African-Americans that they choose to perpetuate the problem that they are fundamentally responsible for.

    It's about time for the "racists" to stand up and admit they're the reason for more African-American crime because their hatred and bigotry is the fundamental cause behind it.
     
  15. Zook

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    1. Blacks are just as violent, criminally-inclined and useless in every country around the world. Even those that didn't use them for slavery.

    2. Slavery is a weak excuse for degenerate behavior. I've had a hard life and a bad childhood, I would never steal or break the law today.

    3. All races have had negative and oppressive histories. But every other race rises above it. It's pathetic that blacks are the only ones that cannot get over an event that happened hundreds of years before they were even born.

    4. No one is discriminating against blacks who want to work. It's usually their Ebonic tribe speak, scruffy appearance and bad attitudes that get them refused by potential employers.

    Anti-racists are literally the biggest, excuse-making idiots on the planet. They sit there trying to justify UNACCEPTABLE crime/violence statistics with pathetically weak arguments while their society burns to the ground around them. And then they have the nerve to call others stupid. :rolleyes: Anti-racists fear reality and fear anyone who calls a spade a spade.
     
  16. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    The difference is that I have undisputed clinical studies by some of the foremost researchers in the field to support my statements. These studies are not propanganda but instead represent the actual results of well established clinical research that have been subjected to peer review where the results have not been disputed.

    Please take note that I don't condemn low intelligence people in general. They are generally loving and caring individuals that are a wonderful asset to society. There is nothing wrong with a person having below average intelligence.

    Of course the fact that racists generally have below average intelligence, as established by the clinical studies, and that they would allow that low intelligenct to be used in a hateful and harmful manner does reflect more than just low intelligence. That reflects ignorant stupidity and bigotry so I correctly identify it a such. Regardless of intelligence one has to choose to be an ignorant stupid bigoted racist. That is a choice the racist makes volunarily.

    The Political Forum profanity filter censors the actual words I'd choose to use and the fact is that racism is far more offensive than anything I could possibly say about the racist.
     
  17. Zook

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    Absolute garbage. :) Your "clinical studies" are a joke. Nobody with a brain will take them seriously and it's obviously childish propaganda to slander anyone who doesn't agree with the PC agenda. It's no better than playground tactics.

    I was never interviewed or had my intelligence monitored during these studies. Neither has any of the racists I know in my personal life. Neither have great intellectual racists like Dr. David Duke, Dr. James Watson, Dr. Shockley, historian David Starkey or Abraham Lincoln.

    Your stance and your argument is childish and childishness from an adult is what I regard as low-intelligence.

    It's obvious there is a huge government/Zionist/world police agenda sweeping the planet at the moment to brainwash people into accepting the multi-CULTuralism that is being FORCED upon them. It would be easy to manipulate scientists to put together bogus studies to slander anyone that threatens their plans for global control of the goyim. Anyone with a brain would see through such childish attempts at slander.

    Racism shouldn't offend you. It's a natural reaction to a continuous action. It's no secret blacks have a terrible record when it comes to civilized behavior... and anti-crime, anti-depravity and anti-violent people like me are not going to sit in our majority black neighborhoods with the kinds of barbarity you can only imagine from your safe, majority White neighborhoods and accept it by making excuses that it must be linked to some crazy event that happened hundreds of years before we were all even born.

    I simply don't care what childish excuses blacks have for their uncivilized behavior. I am sick and tired of working hard only for my car to be continually vandalized, my house to be burglarized over and over, my relatives to be physically attacked, for me and my family to be racially abused and assaulted, for my kids to be accosted by drug dealers and lured into joining gangs and for my neighborhood to be trashed by dirty, obnoxious, violent, aggressive, smelly, ignorant, hate-filled, subhumans who all miraculously have the same color skin.

    I grew up dirt poor and oppressed exactly like them and I wouldn't dream of acting as disgracefully as they do. You want racism to improve, then find a ground-breaking way to improve black behavior worldwide because calling racists "dum morans" isn't going to cut it. Racism is linked to bad behavior caused by one race. Simple as that.
     
  18. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    I'm sure that peer reviewed clinical studies that dispute the conclusions made in the studies I've presented are only moments away from being posted.

    Obviously if these peer reviewed clinical studies are not immediately forecoming then any ignorant, stupid, bigoted, racist rant falls apart.
     
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    Give them a stool and rope.

    Problem solved.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    I'm not a Christian but as I recall the Bible states that people "will reap what they sow" and the racist sows hatred and they reap the results.

    In the 1960's we merely referred to it as karma so if a person is an (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) then they can expect to be treated like an (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*).

    Either way the racist is the reason for the racial problems that they create. If it wasn't for "white" racists we wouldn't have racial problems in America today.
     
  21. Zook

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    No, that's where you're wrong. I was an anti-racist liberal right up until I was in my late teens... just like you are today. I looked for any reason no matter how unrealistic it sounded to excuse their behavior. I wanted desperately to believe black "people" were good like everyone else.

    When I was growing up, all I had to hang out with were black kids. I grew up in extremely black majority neighborhoods. I wanted to like them and each barbaric/uncivilized act I would see them commit I would excuse or pardon. Then as I grew older I began to realize there's something not quite right with them and I shouldn't be making excuses for unacceptably bad behavior.

    Racism didn't cause my problems. Infact, since I became a proud racist these violent/uncivilized incidents against my family and I have decreased dramatically because I refuse to associate with blacks personally and allow them into my home like I used to.

    You have things really twisted and I blame that on lack of experience. I could be wrong, but that's the way it seems to me. No one should accept the level of violence and depravity the black community brings to what is SUPPOSED to be a civilized society. There's no excuse for it if you aren't a pro-crime reprobate of a person.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    The first mistake of many members it to wrongfully assume things about other members. I'm a conservative card carrying Libertarian and not a progressive liberal. I represent what conservatives used to represent before the "Moral Majority / Religious Right" introduced authoritarian "social conservativism" into the political arena.

    BTW I'm still waiting for the peer reviewed clinical studies that provide valid rebuttal to the studies I provided in the OP. So far we've seen no evidence that racists aren't low IQ individuals with irrational fears as the studies concluded, or if we choose to dump the "politically correct" termonology, they can be accurately referred to as ignorant, stupid, paranoid, hateful bigots.
     
  23. Zook

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    Conservatives/liberals/libertarians, they're all the same to me these days. Conservatives aren't like the conservatives of yesterday. Every mainstream politician is a liberal as far as I'm concerned. They're all dancing to the Zionist's tune. They all have similar agendas.

    You won't find any and you know it. :) Everyone's barking to the same PC liberal tune. Doctors like James Watson (pioneer of DNA studies) comes out to criticize blacks with scientific evidence and he gets his Nobel Peace Prize stripped of him and his career is left in tatters. Which scientist in their right mind would dare question the liberal elite's agenda after that debacle? :)
     
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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6uoYnCvnbE&nomobile=1]This guy describes it the best.[/ame]
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    An extremely ignorant statement reflecting the general "Blame everything on the Zionist Jews" held by many racists and neo-Nazis.

    There are no libertarians in the Congress of course. While all political philosophies and some overlap Ron Paul has the most libertarian political beliefs of anyone in Congress but he is still a Republican. Dennis Kucinich also held many libertarian beliefs but he was a Democrat. Both opposed US interventionism in the foreign affairs of other nations by the United States.

    Libertarians oppose all acts of tyranny by government and certainly the Zionists of Israel, predominately represented by the Likud Party, advocates tyrannical actions but the Israeli government which Libertarians oppose. Of course racists are not welcome in the Libertarian Party so we can expect racists not to endorse libertarian political philosophies mostly because they are too ignorant to even understand libertarian political philosophies.

    Yes, I know there are no conflicting peer reviewed clinical studies that dispute the studies I've provided. Science is not concerned with politics of course but don't tell the racist that because it destroys their arguments which are based upon pure ignorance. Science, not political opinion, establishes that racists are generally low intelligence (i.e. stupid) individuals.

    Dr James Watson is often cited by the racist but, of course, the facts don't support their arguments. For example the above statement that Dr Watson "comes out to criticise black with scientific evidence" is a pure fabrication.

    Dr Watson did make one very racist statement when, during an interview, he stated, "[I am] inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa [because] all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours—whereas all the testing says not really." This statement waa not based upon any scientific evidence but instead was an ignorant statement made by Dr Watson unsupported by any clinical studies. The statement was based upon his general impression of IQ test scores which have already been shown to be invalid in testing "intelligence" except within the very limited parameters established by the test.

    Dr Watson was rightfully discredited and condemned by the scientific community for making a racist statement that was completely unsupported by any scientific evidence.

    On an interesting side note Dr Watson also stated it was possible to genetically engineer the human genome to breed low intelligence out of the human population which would basically bred racism out of existence. How strange that racists hold up Dr Watson who proposed a means for breeding them out of existance. LOL

    Finally, in a review of Dr Watson we can also note that he was homophobic and advocated abortion to end homosexuality if genes could be identified that lead to homosexuality. Being homophobic is often a common trait held by racists as that also based upon prejudice which is very common in low intelligence individuals as the peer reviewed clinical studies reflected.

    Bottom line we can probably put Dr Watson in that category of individuals that would score very high on a standardized IQ test but if actual intelligence was being measured he was rather stupid. Sort of a "Mozart" where he would excel based upon the very limited scope of standardized IQ tests but if total intelligence could be measured he would be in the bottom percentiles.
    Dr Watson's unmeasured ignorance superseded his measureable intelligence. It's not surprising that racists hold him in high regard because they share common stupidity and ignorance.
     

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