Wow: Atlanta PD reinstates police officer charged with murder -- with back pay?

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  1. FreshAir

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    to be fair, the cops knew the taser could not be shot a second time, it was their taser, they had been trained on it and they knew he was drunk, tasers are nonlethal weapons per the cops anyways - they could have handled it differently and avoided the hassles they are not facing

    and of course the man that died could have not drank so much he lost control of his mind, and he would still be alive today
     
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    "Require"??? I have no idea what you're talking about.
     
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    If it doesn't require racism then racism is optional (as it is everywhere) and, hence, individual. There is no systemic racism in America with a very few examples such as BLM, KKK and few other organizations. It is a ridiculously silly thing to talk about.
     
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    The wording in the census (and other official documents) is meant to establish how people choose to self-identify. How you self-identify (which is usually equivalent to how other people identify you) usually has to do with how vulnerable you are to systemic racism. But there is no such thing as "race" either in a biological sense or an anthropological sense.
     
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    As I already said, the same way UFOlogists exist, but UFOs don't.... Unless you believe in flying saucers. But, even so, you get the idea.

    THE System is racist.

    Here
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...what-it-means-and-what-it-doesnt-mean.587769/
     
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    Before the 60s, after the 60s and to this very second. Trump didn't create racism. He just brought it out of the closet.
     
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    Racism is individual AND systemic. Optional or not, they both exist. KKK has NOTHING to do with systemic racism.

    Here:
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...what-it-means-and-what-it-doesnt-mean.587769/
     
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    Who says the officer murdered anyone? I believe that is what due process is all about. He is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Are you that court? Same with your teacher example. I knew a teacher well who did this to his 9 year old daughter. The difference is he admitted doing it. The officer believes he acted accordingly to the law and his direct teachings by his commanders. The fact you are unable to see these these things says you are part of the Wok crowd that wants to eliminate the Constitution and believes the U.S. is inherently evil. To that, if you believe this you are delusional.
     
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    he killed someone, he is being charged with murder... would we let a teacher charged with murdering or raping a child keep teaching?

    no one said he is guilty of murder, at this point all we know is he killed a man
     
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    Repeating a falsehood over and over doesn't make it true. Where is he being charged with murder? The proper term is justified homicide.
     
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    per the op

    "Rolfe still faces a felony murder charge, among other counts in the indictment. And he’ll be an active-duty cop when he shows up in court, thanks to the Atlanta Civil Service Board’s decision late yesterday (via Power Line’s Paul Mirengoff):"

    are you saying that is a lie?
     
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    "Officer Garrett Rolfe was maliciously charged with murder and ten other counts in June by then-District Attorney Paul Howard. Last night, Howard was unseated by a tenacious young woman who worked under Howard for 16 years. Fani Willis won in a landslide with 73% of the vote. If you recall, Paul Howard is a slimy DA who embraced the media frenzy surrounding Rayshard Brooks' death. Howard conducted a theatrical press conference announcing criminal charges before the Georgia Bureau of Investigation completed an investigation of the shooting. He then audaciously used images from the shooting in his re-election campaign advertisements."
    I would reinstate him too looking at this as something that should be taken off the table and wait for the Georgia bureau of investigation to complete their investigation. I see no problem. He's innocent and falsely charged.
     
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    he was charged though, so it's not a false statement

    you can say you disagree with that charge, that is fair game though
     
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    He was charged under false pretenses. Glad to see the DA fired by the people in great numbers. This is the typical BLM communist plots they are throwing out there. Time to call the BLM a terrorist group along with the white supremacists and Antifa.
     
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    time will tell
     
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    United States of America!

    The specific subsystem within the overall American socio-political and economic system I'm addressing (the criminal system) is referenced on the OP, but it's better explained here
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...what-it-means-and-what-it-doesnt-mean.587769/

    ... which is a thread that deals more specifically with this. However, "systemic racism" can be found in practically every element of the global system.
     
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    That isn't an answer. Where specifically? Name the system or organization that is racist.
     
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    Glad you guys are finally on board that Unions are POS organizations that protect bad assets. Welcome aboard.

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    Some tasers have a 2 shot capability and a stun gun ability when the shots are expended.
    Then again, he was passed out in a drive through, he’s clearly not very bright.
     
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    Are you playing some sort of game or something? I said it in the post you quoted. You even quoted it! And it's what this whole thread is about. Systemic racism is present in every part of the system. But I'm referring to the subject of this thread and of the thread I sent you a link to. Specifically the criminal system.
     
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    The criminal system (whatever that means) is not racist. It includes some racist individuals but it is not itself racist. If it were racist it would demand and require racism. It doesn't even promote or tolerate racism. Racism is a personal problem but no longer a systemic problem in America.
     
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    When was it a systemic problem, and when and how did it stop being one?
     
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    There are plenty.
    For example, there is at least one year's worth of college graduates, mostly single, who can't find jobs in their chosen profession.
     
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    Right but why would they choose a job which pays 35-45k a year, where they have to risk their life, engage with pissed off people constantly every day, and interact with the biggest scum our society has to offer? Combine that with the fact that at any point in time you could be a target for an assassination attempt while you’re sitting in your vehicle eating lunch or violently assaulted by a convicted violent felon who is trying to murder you with a knife and oh by the way if you happen to survive his knife assault and you throw him to the ground to cuff him while FOLLOWING departmental policy and he hits his head on the pavement and has permanent brain damage... because people on the left want to remove qualified immunity... you can be sued civilly by that violent felon who tried to murder you and he can leave you bankrupt, lose your house, get you fired from your job and leave your family destitute and you’ll have little to no support from the administration because they’re terrified of being targeted by the Wokerati who may show up to their town and vandalize and burn their Main Street if enough wokeness isn’t displayed.

    Why the **** would anybody choose to take that job?
     
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