Wow: Atlanta PD reinstates police officer charged with murder -- with back pay?

It’s a living.

 

First of all. They earn way more than that. It's more like 65K a year.
I found this one: https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewdepietro/2020/04/23/police-officer-salary-state/?sh=e1484772010c
And that could be without paying for overtime and extra for nightshifts.

Anyways... that 65K is above the medium income of your average American, while it only takes a highschool diploma to get in and some weeks of in company training.
So you know. Easy access to a rather ok financial life.


Take into account that what happened to Chauvin was rather a novelty, with no more blue wall of silence. Chauvin gotten away totally clean with choking a kid unconscious before like that while he also smacked him with a flashlight against the head, twice. The child was unarmed. The guy who killed Eric Garner, he got away with that with no trial at all, while he had people strip naked in public before. Lets be frank... enter your far right wing white person with some narcistic traits. Plenty of them around. All these victims just happen to be black. It is what it is. In most cases, the officers put up that blue wall of silence, so the worst of the apples is able to set the bar.

And that last part really is it. You wonder why a person would take such a job. I wonder: how can you work with a fellow cop who made people strip naked in public? How can you work with a fellow cop who choked an unarmed child unconscious after smashing his head with a hard metal object, twice? There is even this gem of a cop who showed his fellow cops how he dislocated a shoulder AND broke the arm of a +70 year old woman with the vid from his bodycam, to have a laugh about it while his victim was able to hear all of that. His victim who did not get any kind of medical attention.. since they filed no injuries happened during the arrest. Really. Why should I care if such people get sued into bankruptcy? You can complain all you want about people being woke. But that's really not the problem at all.

The amount of rotten eggs just has to be immense with one ridiculous example after the other pops up. And this person in the OP is just one of the many... killing a person who he knew had a taser that would never shoot a 3rd time in a row, and so he knew he was not in any kind of danger at all. Typically he received massive support from his fellow cops who refused to work because he was getting a fair trial. That's just cops extorting when people are seeking justice in a fair trial. Beats me how they can claim you want to build trust with the same people your extorting to seek justice.

 

You’re simply using anecdotal evidence which proves nothing.

The FACTS are that in 2019 13 unarmed blacks were killed by police out of 62,500,000 interactions with the public. Which means that in 99.999979% of the time no unarmed black person was killed during a police interaction

In 2019 there were approximately 26,000 ACCUSATIONS of excessive force out of 62,500,000 police interactions with the public. If we assume all of those are true (which we know empirically they’re not) that means that in 99.96% of the time there is not even an ACCUSATION of excessive force.

The idea that police brutality is a persistent and wide reaching issue is simply factually and objectively not true.

Furthermore, you may not have a problem with those bad cops getting in trouble. But when you start putting good cops in a position where they’re not allowed to defend themselves and if they do they take the risk of losing EVERYTHING even though they followed all the rules... nobody is going to want to be a cop. Or I should say, if you think the cops are bad now, just wait.

 

Bingo. But don’t expect Leftists to understand statistics and math. Just citing those numbers makes you a racist in the eyes of BLM and the MSM. Its outrageous to insert logic into a discussion.

They think if they see the same incident 1000 times there are actually 1000 different black men getting killed, when it’s just the same regurgitation. And for every unarmed Black man shot there are a couple white men shot too, but who cares about those lives? Then again, being unarmed doesn’t make you innocent. Few of the unarmed are ever angels or completely innocent. Most have a pile of karma that’s been building up.

 

There is a caveat. Police officers cannot be sued unless the injured party is in their stead -- under their control -- like in their custody. Suits target the municipalities -- well established for many years and tested a number of times, including in the USSC more than once.

 

Someone that thinks cops are supposed to be supernatural and not respond to aggression against them. The armchair experts are laughable.

 

Saw a poll of what people think about unarmed black killings by police and it was so out of whack that it didn't reflect reality at all. Such is media propaganda.

 

The cop’s actions here were defensible. He got a raw deal. Glad he’s getting back pay.

Not every case of a cop shooting a black man is murder. Sheesh.

 

Hang on... I did not say a thing about how many black people were killed. I noted insane police brutality as for instance the dislocating the shoulder AND breaking the arm of an elderly woman, lying nobody got hurt, and have your fellow cops laugh at the SOUND of the arm breaking while the victim can hear all of that and is not getting any kind of medical attention. It shows that it's not some single cop doing something, but it exposes a culture of the police that is rotten. I mentioned also other instances of other cops, including the cop of the OP, who all work in teams where their fellow cops just are rather supportive of all that thug violence. It also shows that it's not just a fluke but an again and an again thing.

Well that's just being utterly dishonest. You're saying a cop would not be allowed to defend themselves in court. That's just a flat out lie, when the plan is that cops are MADE to defend themselves in court where they previously got a free pass on almost everything.

 

They do now only because of qualified immunity, which the democrats are trying to remove.

 

But what you’re describing is anecdotal. In ortherwords the overall statistical picture does not fall in line with the unique experiences you’re describing as a rule. They are the exception to the rule, not the rule... not even CLOSE to the rule.

And I’m not talking about defending themselves in court, I’m talking about defending themselves in the street without worry of having their ENTIRE lives destroyed by lawsuits for doing their job, following procedures and defending themselves.

 

The Obamas in a recent interview said they’re afraid for the daughters now. Too bad even those 2 geniuses didn’t point out that the people the Obamas should be most afraid of when it comes to their daughters are BLACK MEN, not cops. That’s not opinion. It’s statistical FACT!!!

Let’s recap. Both of these terribly oppressed people had a support system growing up. Both went to incredibly prestigious Universities, getting the best education on the planet. Both became lawyers. Both paid well. And the horribly oppressed black man became president 2X and their family and heirs are/will be millionaires. Their daughters will want for NOTHING assuming they don’t become drug crazed insane people. Even then they’ll be taken care of..like Hunter.

What backwards reality do these delusional people live in talking about oppression? Go imagine yourself in Africa and how well your lives would have been. HINT!!! Extreme odds you wouldn’t be giving any interviews on prime time. They would be lucky their kids even survived.

 

You actually are talking about defending themselves in court. There really is something psychotic about having the best of times when looking at vids of yourself with your mates at work about how you broke the arm of an elderly to hear that snap again. And your reaction is that these psychopaths must be above the law since they may not be held personally responsible... when they do not do their job / follow procedures. And I care not you claim these are just anecdotes. These are true events. A dime a dozen, and you know it.

Care to explain what the big deal is when such a psychopath will lose his job and probably his house as well? The jails are full with people who had the same thing happening to them.

 

No, the data PROVES you wrong here. And it's not a claim that they are just anecdotes....they ARE anecdotes.

I also don't recall a single person on here saying police should be above the law. Maybe I missed it but I'm pretty sure you're just making stuff up so you have an argument to make.

 

And I said: And I care not you claim these are just anecdotes. These are true events. A dime a dozen, and you know it.

It seems that they are when people do not want them to be personally responsible even when they show clear signs of psychotic behavior as in having a good laugh about the snapping sounds of a bone they broke of an elderly victim.

 

I was responding to the fact that you referred to is as a 'claim'. It's not a claim that they're anecdotes.

Again, who on here is saying they shouldn't be held accountable when they 'exhibit signs of psychotic behavior'?

 

I do not care what kind of label you are putting on those true events of insane police brutality.

People who do not want cops to be ever held personally accountable for what they do on the job.