Yes He Can: Ron Paul Can Win

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  1. jaktober

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    http://freeindependentsun.com/republic/comprehensive-3-stage-grassroots-strategy-to-nominate-ron-paul-for-president/

    Wrote this article a couple days ago. Since then Ron Paul has polled second (20% vs. 19%) in Iowa, and an article about him winning California, and "thus the nomination" has com out from the Examiner. I've had to update my article as the news has started to prove it.

    http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-washington-dc/shhhhhh-ron-paul-could-win-california-and-therefore-the-nomination

    Amazing Times.
     
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    You kind of have to discount straw poll results, but Bloomberg does show Ron Paul in a dead heat for first in Iowa and a solid second in New Hampshire.


    The poll also surveyed likely Republican primary voters in New Hampshire, and found that Romney continues to hold a considerable lead in the state, with 40% support, followed by Ron Paul with 17%, Newt Gingrich with 11% and Herman Cain with 8%. Twenty-six percent said they backed Romney when he ran for the GOP nomination in 2008; 7% backed Paul that year.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-romney-bloomberg-poll-20111116,0,6920495.story?track=rss
     
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    Although he has some great ideas, Paul has no chance. He's 76 and sounds like Daffy Duck! Nuff said.
     
  4. BleedingHeadKen

    BleedingHeadKen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    His voice is daffy. His age, however, is irrelevant. He's in better shape than any of the other candidates except, perhaps, Romney, and I doubt that Romney will take him up on the offer to go for a 20 mile bicycle ride in the 100 degree Houston heat. Paul will live to be a hundred or more and is not slowing in his faculties. He's like my Texan grandmother. At 85 she was hit by a car, thrown 10 feet, rolled another 15 and walked away from it with nothing but a hip displacement.

    Then again, I never thought a person with a name like "Barak Obama" could win. Many people are desperate for a president with good ideas and who appears to buck the trend. There was a lot of that potential in Obama, which is why he won so handily, but he's since proven to be just another puppet of the establishment. If Paul can get the nomination, he'll prove very popular among independents and disaffected Democrats. The progressive left will never let go of Obama, but the liberal left might.
     
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    I agree that if he gets the nomination, he is likely to beat Obama, but he won't get the nomination. Pipedream! :)
     
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    Then we'll draft him to run as an Independent. Obama will win against any other Republican, anyway.
     
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    I think we should have the first write in president since the 1800's be Ron Paul. There will need to be someone like this...
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    To campaign on Ron Pauls behalf.
     
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    A good showing in Iowa and New Hampshire will be very good for RP. That's not an out of reach goal and we all know he would get momentum from that. The media could no longer ignore him.

    Face it. Gingrich, Cain and Perry will all be toast by the Iowa caucus. So who's left besides Romney? The contrast between Paul and Romney is stark. It will be a clear choice between the two. A flip-flopping RINO or a Constitutional Conservative that has predicted all the problems we are now having.

    Ron Paul does need to sharpen his message, but he doesn't need to change it. He's spot on and people are starting to wake up to that.
     
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    I bet they will still try.

    Has Romney taken anything from Ron Paul for talking points like Cain, Gingrich, and Perry have?

    I hope so. I can't take another run of the mill progressive (left or right) politician.
     
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    Not true. Romney, Gingrich, and Perry can beat Obama.
     
  11. BleedingHeadKen

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    They represent nothing new. More welfare, more warfare, more bank bailouts, more corporatism, more creeping socialism. Why vote in someone new who won't do anything different and may just make things worse? Obama has the advantage in that his apparatus is already in place, and while Democrats and independents might well vote for Ron Paul for a real change, they had enough of the Bush era that they aren't going to vote in Bush III.
     
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    2012 Iowa Republican Caucus
    Iowa: Gingrich 32%, Romney 19%, Cain 13%

    Paul 10%

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...ial_election/iowa/2012_iowa_republican_caucus
     
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    A win for Ron Paul is a win for China and Iran.
     
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    How so?

    A win for Ron Paul is a win for the troops.
     
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    Paul winning the nomination would mean the neo-cons would have to admit they were wrong about foreign policy for the past 40 years. Fat chance. And please don't give me any of this 'Ronald Reagan was an isolationists' stuff. I don't buy it..

    Bro
     
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    Yeah, he is too old.
     
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    Wrong. RP would defund the IMF, so China would lose a significant amount of their income (that they got at US taxpayers expense). Also, he would stop giving them military intelligence. His economic policies would bring alot of manufacturing jobs back to our shores.

    China would lose big time if RP won.
     
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    Obviously not if he's still got enough of his marbles to verbally annihilate all of his Republican opponents every time he speaks.
     
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    We all lose if we have another war monger as President.
     
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    LOL.
    That must be why Ron Pauls Military donations are 3 times the other candidates combined... And 2 times what Obama gets.

    Ironic thing is, Ron Paul is the only one calling for an immediate withdraw from all wars. He is also cutting the Military budget the most... odd...
     
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    I hope you arent calling Ron Paul a war monger. Prove this please...
     
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    Just the opposite. Elect any of the other Republican candidates however and you have a war monger in office.

    Like we have one now.

    Nothing would change ~
     
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    Funny thing is, the troops are done with the 10 year war. We are sick of it.

    And second, cutting the budget doesn't mean cutting the force. Cutting the number of oversees bases where we are there to "protect" someone else, we are paying rent. That is insane. So getting us from Germany, Italy, Britain, Japan, Korea, and especially Afghanistan, will save us money without cutting troops.
     
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    Paul is so insignificantly unimportant there's actually truth the' Madness of why he's never mentioned.He's a Political Freak.Always has been.
    Made it a point to act like a Political Freak.Americans don't cotton Freaks.
    Paul has no grasp as to what a center Right Country means.
    Paul is therefore selfish.Anyone so greedy about their view of America
    w/o building consensus or alliances is no better than what Obama has
    done.Even though Barack has built an entire Politburo beholdin to him.
    Ron Paul has built the Alex Jones Politburo.A nutty fringe group of
    Their Way or the Highway.I don't appreciate groups like Jones who take
    for granted that THEIR way is best for all.They talk of the Constitution but
    act and think like Hitlers Storm Troopers.What gives guys like Alex Jones
    the right to decide Their way or the Highway.I think they are showoffs
    who are stooging average schlubs with a message that fringers and
    conspiracy/video nuts tend to gravitate to.Ron Paul is in league with that
    nutty fringe.
     
  25. lolcatz

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    You do a very good job of ignoring the truth. Dont be surprised when you see Dr. Paul taking the oath...
     

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