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Yes Virginia, there is a God.

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by doombug, Dec 6, 2017.

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    :roflol:

    Your OP fails since it makes several baseless assumptions that were not addressed. The most glaring of which is the theist 'something from nothing" drivel.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/scie...d-by-Canadian-physicists-and-er-it-wasn-t-God

    Your theist beliefs do not negate scientific knowledge.
     
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  2. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

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    Scientific knowledge supports the OP. Of course I do not expect you to understand anything that is not accompanied by an emoji.
     
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  3. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As I predicted,no interest in debate,just deflection.
     
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  4. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

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    What debate? As I have stated, some will never accept evidence for God no matter how convincing it is. Your "debate argument" is an attempt to move the goal posts. You failed.
     
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  5. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have not said I do not accept it,I asked you to explain it, that is debate!
     
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  6. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    BZZZT Wrong!

    That is not "scientific knowledge" but as a theist I don't expect you to understand that it wasn't.
     
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  7. Tosca1

    Tosca1 Well-Known Member

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    What evidence are you asking for? PHYSICAL evidence?
     
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  8. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No I am simply asking how the "force" is a being. He defines god as supernatural invisible being, but just indicates a "force".
     
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  9. Tosca1

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    :roll:

    Your source is what's drivel!
    https://www.express.co.uk/news/scie...d-by-Canadian-physicists-and-er-it-wasn-t-God


    You should contact the NATIONAL ACADEMY OF SCIENCES.....and tell them, they ought to change their stance!
    Give your link as your source! [​IMG]

    You should also get in touch with NASA (you know - the space guys!)
    Tell them their faq, is outdated!

    https://wmap.gsfc.nasa.gov/site/faq.html

    Show them your link - it's been published in 2015 - and yet, NASA still quote from the NAS! [​IMG]
     
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  10. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

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    That requires integrity on your part. You cherry picked the word "being" and wanted to debate some silly notion. Sorry but science does not work that way. Science follows the facts where they lead.
     
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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    Do you want me to illustrate my point in cartoon form? Is that the only way you will get it?
     
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    The problem with this whole series of nonsense is that yes the following definition is correct

    " 1) Evidence is anything which is measurable AND repeatable. "


    That said there is still no evidence presented to prove

    A supernatural invisible being.

    With of course the most important word in the phrase consisting of " being" nothing you have presented gives any evidence or proof of a " being.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, it requires that you explain how you extrapolated a "force" into a being.
     
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    So wow we now know that some scientist believe in God. Is this really news.
     
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    Being is the key to your posted definition of god. Otherwise all you have is a supernatural invisible force. And of course the supernatural part is debatable unless your definition of supernatural is " not yet explained by science"

    su·per·nat·u·ral

    1. 1.
      (of a manifestation or event) attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature.
      "a supernatural being"
      synonyms: paranormal, psychic, magic, magical, occult, mystic, mystical, superhuman, supernormal; More
    noun
     
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    Any universe with any set of laws will appear fine tuned when considered in isolation. If you flip a coin a thousand times and then pick out a string of heads in isolation, you can conclude thst the coin has two heads.
     
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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    There you go cherry picking again.
     
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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    LOL! You just debunked your own argument.....
     
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  19. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    nope, you simply deflect. Keep at it.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No you just showed you do not understand a dictionary.Keep deflecting.
     
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    That? No.

    But you're looking from the wrong angle!
    Here is my post again:



    The news is that....... the NAS had admitted there are PHYSICAL evidences that reflect Theistic Evolution. The NAS had also named some of those sciences that revealed them.








     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    It was already presented in cartoon form which is why you swallowed it without question.
     
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    Give me break as with no known limits on the numbers of possible universes with no know limit on the constants contain in those universes the argument is nonsense on it face.
     
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    Oh, the old multiverse argument....there is no evidence for that theory.
     
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    Still a joke and as far as going to the opinions of scientists that is also nonsense without finding out what they mean by the term god as somehow when some of them used the term god they are not referring to a personal god.

    Let me see............

     
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