Young adult women in late 20s, early 30s are dying at greater rate than before

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    The OP is ABOUT young women DYING from THREE primary causes.

    Are you DENYING that guns are the PRIMARY cause of DEATH in HOMICIDES and SUICIDES?

    https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/04/26/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/

     
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    Nope. I'm questioning why you would prioritize more gun restrictions over more sugar and/or alcohol restrictions. That suggests that saving lives isn't your primary goal, given that sugar and alcohol each result in way more death than guns.
     
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    NOTHING in the OP article mentions DIET.

    The ARTICLE does mention VIOLENCE, HOMICIDES and SUICIDES and well as Maternal MORTALITY rates.

    Why deliberately CHANGE the topic to "sugar and alcohol" when GUNS and ABORTION BANS are the most LETHAL for YOUNG women aged 25 to 34?

    Are they dying because of DIABETES and ALCOHOLISM?

    Or are they being MURDERED and committing SUICIDE using GUNS?
     
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    Well they're mostly being murdered because they're living with murderers. Something like 60% are being murdered by men they live with. Don't need a gun to murder someone you live with.

    But, and correct me if I'm wrong, your primary gripe here is that 'we're not doing enough' to prevent death (or prevent women's death), correct?
     
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    Umm, no… the article and OP is a bit deeper than that and not necessarily about three primary causes.
     
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    NEWSFLASH: The OP is NOT about ME!

    The OP is about young women DYING needlessly.

    Please try and REMAIN on TOPIC.
     
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    Because of guns, right?

    That’s what you’re trying to make this thread about.
     
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    REALLY?

    Care to ELABORATE why the OP article is HIGHLIGHTING the 3 PRIMARY causes and TWO of them involve guns 80% of the time?
     
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    I'm on YOUR topic. YOU said: "An increased CAUSE of DEATH that can be BLAMED entirely on the Xtofascist controlled GOP/NRA gun culture that is now OUT of CONTROL"

    So unless YOU were off topic, then the question I asked you is also on topic.

    And you havn't answered it, btw.
     
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    Wasn't that OBVIOUS from the CONTENT of the OP linked article?

    Or do YOU have some other CAUSE that needs to be ADDRESSED?

    Like the Xtofascist controlled GOP's BANNING of ABORTIONS resulting in HIGHER maternal MORTALITY rates?

    Seems like EVERYTHING points BACK to the same CAUSE, doesn't it?
     
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    Dude, you’re going off on a tangent of the linked article and not relative to the tone of the OP. /rant
     
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    Let me help YOU to UNDERSTAND what YOU are doing WRONG.

    HYPOTHETICALLY if I accused you of "enabling" the deaths of these young women because you "support" the Xtofascist controlled GOP/NRA gun culture then I would be MAKING the thread about YOU.

    That is NOT what I am doing but I am willing to bet someone will REPORT this post because the statement above "INSINUATES" that is what you are doing.

    NOWHERE am I making this about YOU or ANY other member.

    I am EXPOSING the primary CAUSES of the DEATHS of these young women.

    WHY are YOU having a PROBLEM with ME exposing the CAUSE rather than FOCUSING on what NEEDS to be DONE to REVERSE this LETHAL trend?

    Or do YOU not have a problem with these young women DYING because of the NEFARIOUS policies of the Xtofascist controlled GOP agenda?
     
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    ONGOING failure to substantiate your baseless position duly noted.

    What are YOUR recommendations to STOP this CARNAGE of young women?
     
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    OK, what do you think needs to be done?

    FTR, I feel just as bad for women killing themselves or killed by their psychopathic lovers as I do for women who give themselves diabetes or drink their liver and kidneys to death or die from drunk drivers. I just don't see that more laws restricting everyone else are a solution.
     
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    Vote BLUE across the board in 2024 NATIONWIDE.
     
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    How will that help?
     
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    REMOVING the Xtofascist controlled GOP from being in a position where it can CONTINUE to INFLICT harm on We the People in general and these young women in particular.
     
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    They will make guns magically disappear
     
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    How is the GOP 'inflicting harm' on them?
     
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    Not to mention that threads like this won’t be necessary because everyone will live a long and healthy life
     
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    The Xtofascist controlled GOP has been WAGING wars on hardworking Americans, POC, the LBGTQ community, women, public education, the environment, healthcare and GenZ.

    If YOU are UNAWARE of any of this then that is YOUR problem, not mine.

    The Founding Fathers understood that an EDUCATED electorate is a PREREQUISITE for our Constitutional Democracy.

    Your TRAITOR-in-Chief openly stated that he "LOVED" the "uneducated" who VOTED for him.

    Your TRAITOR-in-Chief is the FRONTRUNNER of the Xtofascist controlled GOP and it's DE FACTO leader.

    The specious attempt to DENY that HARM is being INFLICTED upon We the People by the Xtofascist controlled GOP is disingenuous AF.
     
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    While it could possibly be that guns are a small factor, I suspect that the rise in homicides and suicides as more to do with other factors, both social and economic.

    The linked article did mention that women of color are far more likely to die from homicide, so seemed to imply that one reason homicides in this group might be increasing is due to changing racial demographics.

    (And obviously there are some other factors at play, because everyone knows there were a lot more guns in the 1950s and 60s, fewer restrictions, and yet the article says young women are more likely to die from homicide today. It's also true that the vast majority of females who commit suicide do not do so via gun, that tends to be more a male thing, so I doubt guns are a factor there)
     
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    EIGHTY percent of all HOMICIDES and SUICIDES involve GUNS.

    REALITY matters.
     
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    And that percentage would only go down, even if you made guns completely illegal. (Because obviously it is still possible for homicides and suicides to be committed without any guns; in many of these cases the gun might have just been the means to the ends, rather than the cause)
    So the only real question is by what percent would homicides and suicides decrease, if you were able to implement the gun restrictions that you say you want. (And I doubt most gun control proponents will admit they want a complete ban)
     
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    It's the second amendment that says the right of the people that keep in bear arms shall not be infringed. Not any Court.

    Besides I don't think that's why happiness is declining with women.
     

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