Your theology and a Basic Minimum Income?

WillReadmore · Nov 5, 2022

DennisTate said: ↑

I have believed for many years now that if somebody's religious beliefs is PRO-LIFE then they should also tend to support a Basic Minimum Income for all citizens as was advocated by Economist Milton Friedman.

An UNCONDITIONAL BASIC MINIMUM INCOME would give added life to organizations that are attempting to help the homeless.... drug addicts....... alcoholics...... the sex industry... gambling.... and would become a source of revenue that courts could divert over from fathers to a mom who has custody of the children and is actually caring for the children!

I am Pro - Life and I definitely think that an unconditional Basic Minimum Income to all citizens will positively alter the economy of The United States and Canada and soon other nations will follow suit because our history shows how this idea goes back many decades.
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OK.

Let's remember that abortion is also healthcare.

Taking the lives of women OUT of the hands of the woman and her doctor and INTO the hands of government to decide whether or not to care about the woman's life is NOT OK.

And, that is true REGARDLESS of how much money you think a pregnant woman should get paid.

Plus, I don't see you offering death benefits for the women you want the government to allow to die.

Captain Obvious · Nov 5, 2022

Oh you people are Canadians? I’m sorry

DennisTate · Nov 7, 2022

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Oh you people are Canadians? I’m sorry
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The fact that the Canadian economy is so small in comparison to the American economy to my thinking means that it would be easier to demonstrate how an Unconditional Basic Minimum Income.... .financed through the brilliant Bank of Canada Policy used from 1938 to 1974... could work!

On one level we would be proving that the ownership of the Canadian Dollar and / or the United States Dollar has been hijacked by corrupt elected officials for decades and actually centuries.

https://bettysearlyedition.blogspot.com/2015/07/how-pierre-trudeau-turned-us-into-debt.html

HOW PIERRE TRUDEAU TURNED US INTO DEBT SLAVES
Click on the link above to watch Part 3 of my video series on the Canadian Banking System. Please also read accompanying text below.
Trudeaumania was just gearing up when I immigrated to Canada in late 1966. I, too, was impressed with Trudeau. He was intelligent, articulate, with liberal ideas. And as Prime Minister, Trudeau repatriated the Canadian Constitution and told the morals’ police to stay out of people’s bedrooms. But then…but then. As Anthony’s famous speech in Shakespeare’s play Julius Caesar reminds us… “the evil that men do live after them while the good is often interred with their bones. So let it be with Caesar.”

But somehow this worked backward for Trudeau. Many Canadians still think highly of Pierre Trudeau, but in 1974 he did one terrible thing that changed the lives, for present and future, of all Canadians, for the worse. Trudeau gave the leading operations of the Bank of Canada over to the private banks operating in Canada.

The Bank of Canada was first established by Prime Minister Richard Bennet in 1935 as a private central bank, but was then nationalized by William Lyon Mackenzie King in 1938. By nationalizing the bank, Mackenzie King meant for it to belong to the people so the Canadian government could borrow funds with little or no interest for capital expenditures. The mandate of the newly nationalized Bank of Canada was to act as the banker to the government and to manage the public debt. As Mackenzie King famously said: “Once a nation parts with the control of their currency and credit, it matters not who makes that nation’s laws. Usury, once in control, will wreck any nation. Until the control of the issue of currency and credit is restored to government and recognized as its most sacred responsibility, all talk of sovereignty of parliament and of democracy is idle and futile.”

So the Bank of Canada was nationalized in 1938 and the government could now borrow money with little or no interest. And it worked. The Canadian government built freeways, public transportation systems, subway line, airports, the St. Lawrence Seaway and funded a national health care system and the Canada Pension Plan. But then Trudeau, under the influence of the international financial group called Basel’s
Committee’s Recommendations (The Basel Committee on Banking Supervision) made the decision to halt the borrowing of money from the Bank of Canada, and instead, chose to borrow from the private banks who instead of lending to the government at no interest, or low interest, introduced higher interest rates along with compound interest.

All banks know very well the magic of compound interest. And Pierre Trudeau must have known that the mounting compounded national debt would lead to Canadians eventually owing a dollar fifty for every dollar of their disposable incomes. After all, he studied economics at the London School of Economics. Surely the professors there knew about compound interest.

So Pierre Trudeau, instead of feeling blessed that Canada, unlike the US, had a nationalized central bank, signed our bank away to the private banks. Couldn’t Trudeau, such an educated man, surmise that citizens in a few years would be struggling to make car payments and meet rent and mortgages and student loans and to buy healthy food while last year’s profits for the big five (that’s Royal Bank, TD Bank, Scotiabank, Bank of Montreal and CIBC amounted to $31.7 billion?) If he did, he didn’t care. But it doesn’t have to be this way. It really doesn’t. Our Bank of
Canada is still there. Next time." (Ms. Betty Krawczyk)
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In my opinion... the influential people who convinced P. M. Pierre E. Trudeau to make such a colossal error back in 1974 were actually desperate to stop the intelligent Bank of Canada policy from being noticed by the United States media!!!!!

DennisTate · Nov 7, 2022

wgabrie said: ↑

Just a point on this part, I think that fathers should be given a minimum of a basic food staple so that they don't starve while paying child support.
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Good point....
only a tiny percentage of Canadians and Americans want to see people starving to death in the streets!!!!!

Bill Gates is one of the few Americans who openly advocates for DEPOPULATION!!!!!

Bill Gates is really the poster boy for Neo-Malthusian Economic Theory that goes all the way back to Thomas Robert Malthus.

I do believe that the political will is finally building to flip political leaders out from under the influence of Gates and Soros and others like them.

Should Israelis begin discussion of a Class Action Lawsuit against Bill Gates?

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Should Israelis be discussing a Class Action Lawsuit against Bill Gates?

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Perhaps... depending on what information comes out over the coming weeks and months?
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DennisTate said: ↑

I think that Bill Gates is in A LOT of trouble!!!!!!

This sounds to me like evidence that he was quite serious in his 2010 TedX lecture "Innovation to zero."

https://www.kusi.com/there-was-an-unexpected-40-increase-in-all-cause-deaths-in-2021/

There was an unexpected 40% increase in ‘all cause deaths’ in 2021
Posted: February 2, 2022

KUSI Newsroom

SAN DIEGO (KUSI) – Several US life insurance companies have recently revealed an overwhelming unexplained increase (40%) in “all-cause deaths” amongst 18 to 49-year-olds.

Three physician “whistle-blowers” have just released real data from the DoD, drawn from the clinical diagnosis codes. The increases found are from 2021, compared to the five year average from 2016 to 2020.

Myocardial infarction: 269% increase
> Miscarriages: 300% increase
> Bell’s palsy: 291% increase
> Congenital malformations: 156% increase
> Female infertility: 471% increase
> Pulmonary embolisms: 467% increase
> Neurologic abnormalities: 300% increase
> Cancers: 300% increase

As of now, the CDC has not explained this data.

Dr. Kelly Victory discussed the surprising findings and respond to those who believe the COVID-19 vaccines have caused these increases.
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Jolly Penguin · Nov 7, 2022

Captain Obvious said: ↑

Oh you people are Canadians? I’m sorry
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I am Canadian, and it's pretty messed up here. Only way to calm myself about it is to remember that at least I am not from the USA.

AARguy · Nov 7, 2022

Jolly Penguin said: ↑

I am Canadian, and it's pretty messed up here. Only way to calm myself about it is to remember that at least I am not from the USA.
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I once worked on a Canadian defense program called CASW (Company Area Suppression Weapon). Essentially, it called for retiring all their 81 mm mortars and replacing them with upgunned grenade machine guns like the Mark 17. The Canadian MoD wined and dined us relentlessly and did little work towards development or acquisition. At the end of the day the 20 man office managing the program ran out of money and the program died. They all retired and joked "Who cares? The USA will keep us safe."

Jolly Penguin · Nov 7, 2022

AARguy said: ↑

I once worked on a Canadian defense program called CASW (Company Area Suppression Weapon). Essentially, it called for retiring all their 81 mm mortars and replacing them with upgunned grenade machine guns like the Mark 17. The Canadian MoD wined and dined us relentlessly and did little work towards development or acquisition. At the end of the day the 20 man office managing the program ran out of money and the program died. They all retired and joked "Who cares? The USA will keep us safe."
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Its true. Canada is in a pretty privileged position really. Another reason I'm glad to be Canadian instead of from the USA. You have the big mlitary and you pay for it, and we sit back and benefit from it.

USA needs its northern border secure, and a friendly country like Canada there instead of say, Russia taking it over, so the USA will defend Canada. The only real danger Canada faces there, is if the USA decides to invade Canada itself and take it over. And if it did, there's nothing Canada could do to stop it, regardless of how much was spent on the military, given the massive imbalance in population and financial power.

DennisTate · Nov 21, 2022

Jolly Penguin said: ↑

Its true. Canada is in a pretty privileged position really. Another reason I'm glad to be Canadian instead of from the USA. You have the big mlitary and you pay for it, and we sit back and benefit from it.

USA needs its northern border secure, and a friendly country like Canada there instead of say, Russia taking it over, so the USA will defend Canada. The only real danger Canada faces there, is if the USA decides to invade Canada itself and take it over. And if it did, there's nothing Canada could do to stop it, regardless of how much was spent on the military, given the massive imbalance in population and financial power.
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This topic is more complex now because Bill Gates has came out openly and made statements that I believe should inspire all people involved in ministry to the homeless or alcoholics or drug addicts as well as the people who are generally pro-life. We need to realize that millions if not even billions of lives now depend ON OUR NOT BEING SILENT..... like the people of Germany were relatively silent when confronted with the rhetoric by Adolf Hitler in the 1930's.

by Thaddeus Mason Pope, JD, PhD

In December, I defended the term “death panel” on this blog. Specifically, I demonstrated that we already have, and for over 50 years have had, quite a number of tribunals that act as death panels. For example, at least daily, UNOS denies potentially life-saving organ transplant requests. While the term “death panel” has a pejorative connotation, the essential concept and function is necessary. Particularly in situations of strict scarcity, life and death decisions must be made. They are made. And they will continue to be made.

So, the relevant question is not whether to “have” death panels. Instead, the relevant question is whether we want to openly “acknowledge” our death panels. I am reminded of a famous scene from the 1992 film, A Few Good Men. You will recall that the story revolves around the court martial of two Marines charged with the murder of a fellow Marine. The defendants had administered a “Code Red,” an unofficial punishment, against a fellow member of their unit who was not sufficiently squared away to meet the Corps’ standards.

In the film’s most famous scene, Lt. Kaffee (Tom Cruise) cross examines Col. Jessup (Jack Nicholson) about the Code Red. Lt. Kaffee says, “I want the truth!” Jessup responds:

You can’t handle the truth! Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. . . . I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom.

You weep for Santiago and you curse the Marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know, that Santiago’s death, while tragic, probably saved lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives!

You don’t want the truth, because deep down in places you don’t talk about at parties, you want me on that wall.

Col. Jessup’s point is that Code Reds are an invaluable part of close infantry training. But since they are “grotesque,” they are officially discouraged (even prohibited).

Is this the path that we should take with death panels? Since we find them grotesque, should we deny both their necessity and their existence? The argument has been compellingly made. In their 1978 book, Tragic Choices, Guido Calabresi and Phillip Bobbitt argued that the difficult but necessary life-and-death choices entailed in rationing can only be made by hiding them from public scrutiny.

In contrast, others call for open acknowledgement of death panels. For example, in a recent interview with Rolling Stones, Bill Gates rightly observed that we must deny even effective and life-saving medical technology to some people. “The idea that there aren’t trade-offs is an outrageous thing. Most countries know that there are trade-offs, but here, we manage to have the notion that there aren’t any. So that’s unfortunate, to not have people think, ‘Hey, there are finite resources here.’”

Gates is right. Calabresi and Bobbitt are wrong. The disadvantages of a “hide and deny” approach are substantial. First, it makes it more difficult to have our death panels operate in an open and transparent manner. This increases the risk of bias and corruption. Second, it means that they may not operate according to sufficiently deliberated principles. Third, a hide and deny approach means that death panels may not operate in a consistent and uniform manner from region to region. In short, hiding and denying death panels forecloses and delays much needed public discourse over how we want out death panels to operate.

Death panels, while tragic, save lives. And their existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to many, saves lives. We don’t want the truth, because deep down in places we don’t talk about at parties, we want death panels."

by Thaddeus Mason Pope, JD, PhD

Death Panels: Can We Handle the Truth?

https://bioethicstoday.org/blog/death-panels-can-we-handle-the-truth/
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DennisTate · Nov 21, 2022

I AM ONE OF THOSE CANADIANS WHO WATCHES NEWS OUT OF THE USA FAR MORE THAN NEWS OUT OF OTTAWA. FROM 1938 TO 1974 WE CANADIANS USED AN IDEA THAT WE HAD ACTUALLY STOLEN FROM PRESIDENT ABRAHAM LINCOLN. IF YOU WILL READ ABOUT THE LINCOLN 'GREENBACK MONETARY POLICY EXPERIMENT" you will know where we got the idea for Bank of Canada policy that we used from 1938 to 1974...... The real reasons as to why Prime Minister Pierre E. Trudeau abandoned this brilliant Bank of Canada Policy will shock you!!!!

I am about to quote Ms. Betty Krawczyk because she explains all this so clearly...... (Ms. Betty Krawczyk ) ....

"The Bank of Canada was first established by Prime Minister Richard Bennet in 1935 as a private central bank, but was then nationalized by William Lyon Mackenzie King in 1938. By nationalizing the bank, Mackenzie King meant for it to belong to the people so the Canadian government could borrow funds with little or no interest for capital expenditures. The mandate of the newly nationalized Bank of Canada was to act as the banker to the government and to manage the public debt. As Mackenzie King famously said: “Once a nation parts with the control of their currency and credit, it matters not who makes that nation’s laws. Usury, once in control, will wreck any nation. Until the control of the issue of currency and credit is restored to government and recognized as its most sacred responsibility, all talk of sovereignty of parliament and of democracy is idle and futile.”

So the Bank of Canada was nationalized in 1938 and the government could now borrow money with little or no interest. And it worked. The Canadian government built freeways, public transportation systems, subway line, airports, the St. Lawrence Seaway and funded a national health care system and the Canada Pension Plan. But then Trudeau, under the influence of the international financial group called Basel’s
Committee’s Recommendations (The Basel Committee on Banking Supervision) made the decision to halt the borrowing of money from the Bank of Canada, and instead, chose to borrow from the private banks who instead of lending to the government at no interest, or low interest, introduced higher interest rates along with compound interest.

All banks know very well the magic of compound interest. And Pierre Trudeau must have known that the mounting compounded national debt would lead to Canadians eventually owing a dollar fifty for every dollar of their disposable incomes. After all, he studied economics at the London School of Economics. Surely the professors there knew about compound interest.

So Pierre Trudeau, instead of feeling blessed that Canada, unlike the US, had a nationalized central bank, signed our bank away to the private banks. Couldn’t Trudeau, such an educated man, surmise that citizens in a few years would be struggling to make car payments and meet rent and mortgages and student loans and to buy healthy food while last year’s profits for the big five (that’s Royal Bank, TD Bank, Scotiabank, Bank of Montreal and CIBC amounted to $31.7 billion?) If he did, he didn’t care. But it doesn’t have to be this way. It really doesn’t. Our Bank of
Canada is still there. Next time." (Ms. Betty Krawczyk)
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.... NOW I FEEL I SHOULD QUOTE MR. MELVIN SICKLER BECAUSE HE EXPLAINS WHERE WE CANADIIAN GOT THIS IDEA FOR OUR 1938 TO 1974 BANK OF CANADA POLICY THAT P. M. PIERRE E. TRUDEAU ABANDONED IN 1974.......

(MELVIN SICKLER, LINCOLN, KENNEDY ) ....

" During the Civil War (1861-1865), President Lincoln needed money to finance the War from the North. The Bankers were going to charge him 24% to 36% interest. Lincoln was horrified and went away greatly distressed, for he was a man of principle and would not think of plunging his beloved country into a debt that the country would find impossible to pay back.

Eventually President Lincoln was advised to get Congress to pass a law authorizing the printing of full legal tender Treasury notes to pay for the War effort. Lincoln recognized the great benefits of this issue. At one point he wrote:

“... (we) gave the people of this Republic the greatest blessing they have ever had – their own paper money to pay their own debts...”

The Treasury notes were printed with green ink on the back, so the people called them “Greenbacks”.

Lincoln printed 400 million dollars worth of Greenbacks (the exact amount being $449,338,902), money that he delegated to be created, a debt-free and interest-free money to finance the War. It served as legal tender for all debts, public and private. He printed it, paid it to the soldiers, to the U.S. Civil Service employees, and bought supplies for war.

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In 1972, the United States Treasury Department was asked to compute the amount of interest that would have been paid if that 400 million dollars would have been borrowed at interest instead of being issued by Abraham Lincoln. They did some computations, and a few weeks later, the United States Treasury Department said the United States Government saved 4 billion dollars in interest because Lincoln had created his own money. So you can about imagine how much the Government has paid and how much we owe solely on the basis of interest." (Melvin Sickler)
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http://www.cidpusa.org/lincoln_JFK.htm

Dirty Rotten Imbecile · Nov 21, 2022

DennisTate said: ↑

I AM ONE OF THOSE CANADIANS WHO WATCHES NEWS OUT OF THE USA FAR MORE THAN NEWS OUT OF OTTAWA. FROM 1938 TO 1974 WE CANADIANS USED AN IDEA THAT WE HAD ACTUALLY STOLEN FROM PRESIDENT ABRAHAM LINCOLN. IF YOU WILL READ ABOUT THE LINCOLN 'GREENBACK MONETARY POLICY EXPERIMENT" you will know where we got the idea for Bank of Canada policy that we used from 1938 to 1974...... The real reasons as to why Prime Minister Pierre E. Trudeau abandoned this brilliant Bank of Canada Policy will shock you!!!!

I am about to quote Ms. Betty Krawczyk because she explains all this so clearly...... (Ms. Betty Krawczyk ) ....

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.... NOW I FEEL I SHOULD QUOTE MR. MELVIN SICKLER BECAUSE HE EXPLAINS WHERE WE CANADIIAN GOT THIS IDEA FOR OUR 1938 TO 1974 BANK OF CANADA POLICY THAT P. M. PIERRE E. TRUDEAU ABANDONED IN 1974.......

(MELVIN SICKLER, LINCOLN, KENNEDY ) ....

http://www.cidpusa.org/lincoln_JFK.htm
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Don’t take any wooden nickels.

Giftedone · Nov 21, 2022

Jolly Penguin said: ↑

I am Canadian, and it's pretty messed up here. Only way to calm myself about it is to remember that at least I am not from the USA.
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AARguy said: ↑

I once worked on a Canadian defense program called CASW (Company Area Suppression Weapon). Essentially, it called for retiring all their 81 mm mortars and replacing them with upgunned grenade machine guns like the Mark 17. The Canadian MoD wined and dined us relentlessly and did little work towards development or acquisition. At the end of the day the 20 man office managing the program ran out of money and the program died. They all retired and joked "Who cares? The USA will keep us safe."
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Well thats nice kids .. but what has this to do with "basic minimum income" in context of position on abortion.

Dirty Rotten Imbecile · Nov 21, 2022

He judges the entire nation based on his experience.

DennisTate · Nov 26, 2022

Dirty Rotten Imbecile said: ↑

He judges the entire nation based on his experience.
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I do believe that all of us do that to at least some degree.......
I tend to be what could be termed overly optimistic and I know that I know that this is due to the amazing people that I met during my sixty three years!

Bill Gates is the poster boy for Neo-Malthusian Economic Theory......
and I am sure that his PESSIMISM is largely the result of the people that he knew during his sixty five years!

We also judge others by what we see within ourselves......
and all that time that he spent with Epstein would tend to make anybody rather PESSIMISTIC and unable to visualize the vastly improved world of 2032 that was shown to near death experiencer and former Atheist Mellen Thomas Benedict. Bill Gates thinks that all of us are just PREDATORS at heart.... because he sees a predator WITHIN himself!!!!!!

William Henry Gates III (born October 28, 1955) is an American business magnate, software developer, investor, author, and philanthropist. He is a co-founder of Microsoft, along with his late childhood friend Paul Allen.[2][3]During his career at Microsoft, Gates held the positions of chairman, chief executive officer (CEO), president and chief software architect, while also being the largest individual shareholder until May 2014.[4] He was a major entrepreneur of the microcomputer revolution of the 1970s and 1980s.

Gates was born and raised in Seattle, Washington. In 1975, he and Allen founded Microsoft in Albuquerque, New Mexico. It became the world's largest personal computer software company.[5][a] Gates led the company as chairman and CEO until stepping down as CEO in January 2000, succeeded by Steve Ballmer, but he remained chairman of the board of directors and became chief software architect.[8] During the late 1990s, he was criticized for his business tactics, which have been considered anti-competitive. This opinion has been upheld by numerous court rulings.[9] In June 2008, Gates transitioned to a part-time role at Microsoft and full-time work at the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, the private charitable foundation he and his then-wife, Melinda Gates, established in 2000.[10] He stepped down as chairman of the board of Microsoft in February 2014 and assumed a new post as technology adviser to support the newly appointed CEO Satya Nadella.[11] In March 2020, Gates left his board positions at Microsoft and Berkshire Hathaway to focus on his philanthropic efforts on climate change, global health and development, and education.[12]

Since 1987, Gates has been included in the Forbes list of the world's wealthiest people.[13][14] From 1995 to 2017, he held the Forbes title of the richest person in the world every year except from 2010 to 2013.[15] In October 2017, he was surpassed by Amazon founder and CEO Jeff Bezos, who had an estimated net worth of US$90.6 billion compared to Gates's net worth of US$89.9 billion at the time.[16] As of November 2022, Gates had an estimated net worth of US$107 billion, making him the fifth-richest person in the world.[17]

Later in his career and since leaving day-to-day operations at Microsoft in 2008, Gates has pursued many business and philanthropic endeavors. He is the founder and chairman of several companies, including BEN, Cascade Investment, bgC3, and TerraPower. He has given sizable amounts of money to various charitable organizations and scientific research programs through the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, reported to be the world's largest private charity.[18] Through the foundation, he led an early 21st century vaccination campaign that significantly contributed to the eradication of the wild poliovirus in Africa.[19][20] In 2010, Gates and Warren Buffett founded The Giving Pledge, whereby they and other billionaires pledge to give at least half of their wealth to philanthropy.
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Actually..... William Gates III knows how to use FOUNDATIONS to make it LOOK like he is giving at least half of his wealth to philanthropy but but he is actually
using what looks like philantrophy to increase his earnings and his levels of influence and power beyond what he could have done through a traditional company PLUS HE HAS THE ADDED BONUS OF PAYING VIRTUALLY NO INCOME TAX AT ALL!!!!!!!!

BILL GATES DOES NOT BELIEVE THAT WHAT WAS SHOWN TO NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCER MELLEN THOMAS BENEDICT ABOUT THE YEAR 2032 IS AT ALL POSSIBLE!!!

HE IS TOO PESSIMISTIC!!!!!

His near death experience was in 1982 so add FIFTY YEARS to that and you have 2032......
and numerous near death experiencers have been shown that the next decade is going to be one of the most positive transformations in all of earth's history!

https://near-death.com/mellen-thomas-benedict/

9. What Is the Best Religion?
I asked God: “What is the best religion on the planet? Which one is right?” And Godhead said, with great love: “I don’t care.” That was incredible grace.

They come and they go, they change. Buddhism has not been here forever, Catholicism has not been here forever, and they are all about to become more enlightened. More light is coming into all systems now. There is going to be a reformation in spirituality that is going to be just as dramatic as the Protestant Reformation. There will be lots of people fighting about it, one religion against the next, believing that only they are right.

Everyone thinks they own God, the religions and philosophies, especially the religions, because they form big organizations around their philosophy. When Godhead said, “I don’t care,” I immediately understood that it is for us to care about. It is important, because we are the caring beings. It matters to us and that is where it is important. What you have is the energy equation in spirituality. Ultimate Godhead does not care if you are Protestant, Buddhist, or whatever. It is all a blooming facet of the whole. I wish that all religions would realize it and let each other be. It is not the end of each religion, but we are talking about the same God. Live and let live. Each has a different view. And it all adds up to the Big Picture; it is all important.

I went over to the other side during my near-death experience with a lot of fears about toxic waste, nuclear missiles, the population explosion, the rainforest. I came back loving every single problem. I love nuclear waste. I love the mushroom cloud; this is the holiest mandalathat we have manifested to date, as an archetype. It, more than any religion or philosophy on earth, brought us together all of a sudden, to a new level of consciousness. Knowing that maybe we can blow up the planet fifty times, or 500 times, we finally realize that maybe we are all here together now. For a period they had to keep setting off more bombs to get it in to us. Then we started saying, “we do not need this any more.” Now we are actally in a safer world than we have ever been in, and it is going to get safer. So I came back from my near-death experience loving toxic waste, because it brought us together. These things are so big. As Peter Russell might say, these problems are now “soul size.” Do we have soul size answers, YES!

The clearing of the rain forest will slow down, and in fifty years there will be more trees on the planet than in a long time. If you are into ecology, go for it; you are that part of the system that is becoming aware. Go for it with all your might, but do not be depressed. It is part of a larger thing. Earth is in the process of domesticating itself. It is never again going to be as wild a place as it once was. There will be great wild places, reserves where nature thrives. Gardening and reserves will be the thing in the future. Population increase is getting very close to the optimal range of energy to cause a shift in consciousness. That shift in consciousness will change politics, money, energy.

After dying, going through my near-death experience and coming back, I really respect life and death. In our DNA experiments we may have opened the door to a great secret. Soon we will be able to live as long as we want to live in this body. After living 150 years or so, there will be an intuitive soul sense that you will want to change channels. Living forever in one body is not as creative as reincarnation, as transferring energy in this fantastic vortex of energy that we are in. We are actually going to see the wisdom of life and death, and enjoy it.

As it is now, we have already been alive forever. This body, that you are in, has been alive forever. It comes from an unending stream of life, going back to the Big Bang and beyond. This body gives life to the next life, in dense and subtle energy. This body has been alive forever already.

One of my questions to the light was, “What is heaven?”

I was given a tour of all the heavens that have been created: the Nirvanas, the Happy Hunting Grounds, all of them. I went through them. These are thought form creations that we have created. We don’t really go to heaven; we are reprocessed. But whatever we created, we leave a part of ourselves there. It is real, but it is not all of the soul.

I saw the Christian heaven. We expect it to be a beautiful place, and you stand in front of the throne, worshiping forever. I tried it. It is boring! This is all we are going to do? It is childlike. I do not mean to offend anyone. Some heavens are very interesting, and some are very boring. I found the ancient ones to be more interesting, like the Native American ones, the Happy Hunting Grounds. The Egyptians have fantastic ones. It goes on and on. There are so many of them. In each of them there is a fractal that is your particular interpretation, unless you are part of the group soul that believes in only the God of a particular religion. Then you are very close, in the same ball park together. But even then, each is a little bit different. That is a part of yourself that you leave there. Death is about life, not about heaven.

What happens when we dream? We are multi-dimensional beings. We can access that through lucid dreaming. In fact, this universe is God’s dream. One of the things that I saw is that we humans are a speck on a planet that is a speck in a galaxy that is a speck. Those are giant systems out there, and we are in sort of an average system. But human beings are already legendary throughout the cosmos of consciousness. The little bitty human being of Earth/Gaia is legendary. One of the things that we are legendary for is dreaming. We are legendary dreamers. In fact, the whole cosmos has been looking for the meaning of life, the meaning of it all. And it was the little dreamer who came up with the best answer ever. We dreamed it up. So dreams are important.
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DennisTate · Feb 20, 2023

I have decided to put the following prediction and the link into this discussion..........
partly because of what is said about Sodom and Gomorrah in the ancient Book of Jasher...........

We Conservative Christians tend to blame ninety percent of the problems in Canada and America on the political left........
but we Conservatives can really only change ourselves........
and in order to become motivated to change ourselves......
we have to begin to see how our thinking....and our ways of living..... are truly far more so a part of the problem than our leaders in
conservatives are telling us is the case.........

Dolly Parton’s Prophetic Warning Dream, Will Technology End Us? | Shawn Bolz Show
... " Today on the Shawn Bolz show we are talking about a Prophetic Word on New Technology and how we would use it? Dolly Parton’s new Song for 2023 about her Prophetic Warning Dream, Jordan Peterson’s WEF views, Facebook adds Trump back on with limitations, The deception of Christianity’s stagnant growth, and Others!"

https://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/19.htm

DennisTate · Feb 20, 2023

Here is the full text of Dolly Parton's dream......

Don't Make Me Have To Come Down There
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Dolly Parton 2023

Last night I had a dream about God.
He was standing on a mountain top,
Looking down, around in such dismay
And in my dream I heard him say.

Don't make me have to come down there.
My children, you had best beware.
If you don’t pay attention, consequences
will be dire,
Don't make me have to come down there.

I've told you time and time again
You can't disobey and hope to win.
I am still the boss
here in case there's any doubt.
You know I put you in this world and I can take you out.

Don't make me have to come down there.
You've always been my cross to bear.
I've let you try my patience as all good Fathers do.
You're on my last nerve, I have had it up to
here with you.

I gave you a book, you didn't read it.
I gave you my word, you didn't heed it.
Gave you a map, you said you didn't need it.
And now you've lost direction and you're wandering aimlessly.
Don't Make Me Have To Come Down There.

Don’t make me have to come down there.
This is not a game of truth or dare.
Now I don't want to punish you, but if it has to be
This is gonna hurt you more than it hurts me.

Don't make me have to come down there.
Bridge this great divide and make repairs.
Go to your room and pray 'til you can learn to play fair.

Don't make me have to come down there.
Politics, earthquakes, erratic weather
Pandemics, war, and hate
Turn a deaf ear, a blind eye;
I am wondering
whether
I should take my Bible belt and
whip you into shape.

Don't make me
have to come down there.
My children you had best beware.
Clean up this mess and put on something decent to wear.
Don't make me have to come down there.

Don't make me have to come down there.
My children you had best beware.
Why can’t you learn to listen, and learn to love and share
Don't make me have to come down there.
Don't Make Me Have To Come Down There

Don't make me have to come down there.
Don't make me come down there.
Don't make
me have to come down there.
Don't make me, don't make me,
Don't make me have to
come down there.
Don't make me have to come down there.
Don't make me come down there.
Don't make me have to come down there.
Don't make me, don't make me,
Don't make me have
to come down there.
✝ ⚖

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"Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride,fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.
And they were haughty, and committed abominationbefore me: therefore I took them away as I saw good." (Ezekiel 16:49, 50)

Here is a chapter in the Book of Jasher that I believe fits with the full context of the sins of Sodom and Gomorrah.

https://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/19.htm

Book of Jasher, Chapter 19
1 And the cities of Sodom had four judges to four cities, and these were their names, Serak in the city of Sodom, Sharkad in Gomorrah, Zabnac in Admah, and Menon in Zeboyim.

2 And Eliezer Abraham's servant applied to them different names, and he converted Serak to Shakra, Sharkad to Shakrura, Zebnac to Kezobim, and Menon to Matzlodin.

3 And by desire of their four judges the people of Sodom and Gomorrah had beds erected in the streets of the cities, and if a man came to these places they laid hold of him and brought him to one of their beds, and by force made him to lie in them.

4 And as he lay down, three men would stand at his head and three at his feet, and measure him by the length of the bed, and if the man was less than the bed these six men would stretch him at each end, and when he cried out to them they would not answer him.

5 And if he was longer than the bed they would draw together the two sides of the bed at each end, until the man had reached the gates of death.

6 And if he continued to cry out to them, they would answer him, saying, Thus shall it be done to a man that cometh into our land.

7 And when men heard all these things that the people of the cities of Sodom did, they refrained from coming there.

8 And when a poor man came to their land they would give him silver and gold, and cause a proclamation in the whole city not to give him a morsel of bread to eat, and if the stranger should remain there some days, and die from hunger, not having been able to obtain a morsel of bread, then at his death all the people of the city would come and take their silver and gold which they had given to him.

9 And those that could recognize the silver or gold which they had given him took it back, and at his death they also stripped him of his garments, and they would fight about them, and he that prevailed over his neighbor took them.

10 They would after that carry him and bury him under some of the shrubs in the deserts; so they did all the days to any one that came to them and died in their land.

11 And in the course of time Sarah sent Eliezer to Sodom, to see Lot and inquire after his welfare.

12 And Eliezer went to Sodom, and he met a man of Sodom fighting with a stranger, and the man of Sodom stripped the poor man of all his clothes and went away.

13 And this poor man cried to Eliezer and supplicated his favor on account of what the man of Sodom had done to him.

14 And he said to him, Why dost thou act thus to the poor man who came to thy land?

15 And the man of Sodom answered Eliezer, saying, Is this man thy brother, or have the people of Sodom made thee a judge this day, that thou speakest about this man?

16 And Eliezer strove with the man of Sodom on account of the poor man, and when Eliezer approached to recover the poor man's clothes from the man of Sodom, he hastened and with a stone smote Eliezer in the forehead.

17 And the blood flowed copiously from Eliezer's forehead, and when the man saw the blood he caught hold of Eliezer, saying, Give me my hire for having rid thee of this bad blood that was in thy forehead, for such is the custom and the law in our land.

18 And Eliezer said to him, Thou hast wounded me and requirest me to pay thee thy hire; and Eliezer would not hearken to the words of the man of Sodom.

19 And the man laid hold of Eliezer and brought him to Shakra the judge of Sodom for judgment.

20 And the man spoke to the judge, saying, I beseech thee my lord, thus has this man done, for I smote him with a stone that the blood flowed from his forehead, and he is unwilling to give me my hire.

21 And the judge said to Eliezer, This man speaketh truth to thee, give him his hire, for this is the custom in our land; and Eliezer heard the words of the judge, and he lifted up a stone and smote the judge, and the stone struck on his forehead, and the blood flowed copiously from the forehead of the judge, and Eliezer said, If this then is the custom in your land give thou unto this man what I should have given him, for this has been thy decision, thou didst decree it.

22 And Eliezer left the man of Sodom with the judge, and he went away.

23 And when the kings of Elam had made war with the kings of Sodom, the kings of Elam captured all the property of Sodom, and they took Lot captive, with his property, and when it was told to Abraham he went and made war with the kings of Elam, and he recovered from their hands all the property of Lot as well as the property of Sodom.

24 At that time the wife of Lot bare him a daughter, and he called her name Paltith, saying, Because God had delivered him and his whole household from the kings of Elam; and Paltith daughter of Lot grew up, and one of the men of Sodom took her for a wife.

25 And a poor man came into the city to seek a maintenance, and he remained in the city some days, and all the people of Sodom caused a proclamation of their custom not to give this man a morsel of bread to eat, until he dropped dead upon the earth, and they did so.

26 And Paltith the daughter of Lot saw this man lying in the streets starved with hunger, and no one would give him any thing to keep him alive, and he was just upon the point of death.

27 And her soul was filled with pity on account of the man, and she fed him secretly with bread for many days, and the soul of this man was revived.

28 For when she went forth to fetch water she would put the bread in the water pitcher, and when she came to the place where the poor man was, she took the bread from the pitcher and gave it him to eat; so she did many days.

29 And all the people of Sodom and Gomorrah wondered how this man could bear starvation for so many days.

30 And they said to each other, This can only be that he eats and drinks, for no man can bear starvation for so many days or live as this man has, without even his countenance changing; and three men concealed themselves in a place where the poor man was stationed, to know who it was that brought him bread to eat.

31 And Paltith daughter of Lot went forth that day to fetch water, and she put bread into her pitcher of water, and she went to draw water by the poor man's place, and she took out the bread from the pitcher and gave it to the poor man and he ate it.

32 And the three men saw what Paltith did to the poor man, and they said to her, It is thou then who hast supported him, and therefore has he not starved, nor changed in appearance nor died like the rest.

33 And the three men went out of the place in which they were concealed, and they seized Paltith and the bread which was in the poor man's hand.

34 And they took Paltith and brought her before their judges, and they said to them, Thus did she do, and it is she who supplied the poor man with bread, therefore did he not die all this time; now therefore declare to us the punishment due to this woman for having transgressed our law.

35 And the people of Sodom and Gomorrah assembled and kindled a fire in the street of the city, and they took the woman and cast her into the fire and she was burned to ashes.

36 And in the city of Admah there was a woman to whom they did the like.

37 For a traveler came into the city of Admah to abide there all night, with the intention of going home in the morning, and he sat opposite the door of the house of the young woman's father, to remain there, as the sun had set when be had reached that place; and the young woman saw him sitting by the door of the house.

38 And he asked her for a drink of water and she said to him, Who art thou? and he said to her, I was this day going on the road, and reached here when the sun set, so I will abide here all night, and in the morning I will arise early and continue my journey.

39 And the young woman went into the house and fetched the man bread and water to eat and drink.

40 And this affair became known to the people of Admah, and they assembled and brought the young woman before the judges, that they should judge her for this act.

41 And the judge said, The judgment of death must pass upon this woman because she transgressed our law, and this therefore is the decision concerning her.

42 And the people of those cities assembled and brought out the young woman, and anointed her with honey from head to foot, as the judge had decreed, and they placed her before a swarm of bees which were then in their hives, and the bees flew upon her and stung her that her whole body was swelled.

43 And the young woman cried out on account of the bees, but no one took notice of her or pitied her, and her cries ascended to heaven.

44 And the Lord was provoked at this and at all the works of the cities of Sodom, for they had abundance of food, and had tranquility amongst them, and still would not sustain the poor and the needy, and in those days their evil doings and sins became great before the Lord.

45 And the Lord sent for two of the angels that had come to Abraham's house, to destroy Sodom and its cities.

46 And the angels rose up from the door of Abraham's tent, after they had eaten and drunk, and they reached Sodom in the evening, and Lot was then sitting in the gate of Sodom, and when he saw them he rose to meet them, and he bowed down to the ground.

47 And he pressed them greatly and brought them into his house, and he gave them victuals which they ate, and they abode all night in his house.

48 And the angels said to Lot, Arise, go forth from this place, thou and all belonging to thee, lest thou be consumed in the iniquity of this city, for the Lord will destroy this place.

49 And the angels laid hold upon the hand of Lot and upon the hand of his wife, and upon the hands of his children, and all belonging to him, and they brought him forth and set him without the cities.

50 And they said to Lot, Escape for thy life, and he fled and all belonging to him.

51 Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah and upon all these cities brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven.

52 And he overthrew these cities, all the plain and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground; and Ado the wife of Lot looked back to see the destruction of the cities, for her compassion was moved on account of her daughters who remained in Sodom, for they did not go with her.

53 And when she looked back she became a pillar of salt, and it is yet in that place unto this day.

54 And the oxen which stood in that place daily licked up the salt to the extremities of their feet, and in the morning it would spring forth afresh, and they again licked it up unto this day.

55 And Lot and two of his daughters that remained with him fled and escaped to the cave of Adullam, and they remained there for some time.

56 And Abraham rose up early in the morning to see what had been done to the cities of Sodom; and he looked and beheld the smoke of the cities going up like the smoke of a furnace.

57 And Lot and his two daughters remained in the cave, and they made their father drink wine, and they lay with him, for they said there was no man upon earth that could raise up seed from them, for they thought that the whole earth was destroyed.

58 And they both lay with their father, and they conceived and bare sons, and the first born called the name of her son Moab, saying, From my father did I conceive him; he is the father of the Moabites unto this day.

59 And the younger also called her son Benami; he is the father of the children of Ammon unto this day.

60 And after this Lot and his two daughters went away from there, and he dwelt on the other side of the Jordan with his two daughters and their sons, and the sons of Lot grew up, and they went and took themselves wives from the land of Canaan, and they begat children and they were fruitful and multiplied.
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WillReadmore · Feb 23, 2023

OK, that's the end of this thread!

JET3534 · Feb 24, 2023

In many ways this is a thought provoking poll and OP. I cannot answer unless you define exactly what you mean by pro-choice and pro-life. I don't believe a zygote is a human life. I believe in allowing abortions for the first trimester. Not after other than to protect the life of the mother. So does that make me pro-life or pro-choice?

Also, what talk about a basic income instead of a welfare system for people who cannot work? If someone can perform work, and does not want to. they should not get a basic income. Rather, they should get a job, or be required to do public service. If they cannot work, I support social services.

DennisTate · Feb 26, 2023

JET3534 said: ↑

In many ways this is a thought provoking poll and OP. I cannot answer unless you define exactly what you mean by pro-choice and pro-life. I don't believe a zygote is a human life. I believe in allowing abortions for the first trimester. Not after other than to protect the life of the mother. So does that make me pro-life or pro-choice?

Also, what talk about a basic income instead of a welfare system for people who cannot work? If someone can perform work, and does not want to. they should not get a basic income. Rather, they should get a job, or be required to do public service. If they cannot work, I support social services.
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Thank you for this excellent post.... I shall pray to be given a wise response to this question...........

but this may help........

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...amous-people-on-earth.608615/#post-1074057162

DennisTate said: ↑

Is Woody Harrelson one of the most courageous and one of the most wise famous people on this third rock?????????

In my opinion......YES......
WOODY HARRELSON HAS HIT THE BALL OUT OF THE PARK...... AGAIN!!!!!!!!

I THINK THAT HE ALSO HIT THE BALL OUT OF THE PARK WITH HIS "KISS THE DIRT" DOCUMENTARY!!!!!!!!

Sorry.... "Kiss the ground!!!"

Kiss the Ground Film Trailer (2020)
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DennisTate said: ↑

Again... that is actually an extremely good point.........

modern Christian Scribes and Pharisees rival the ancient Scribes and Pharisees of the time of John the Baptist and Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus for straining out gnats.... while swallowing camels.........
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DennisTate · May 20, 2023

A basic minimum income has the potential to take people above that place where they end up homeless and perhaps consider being euthanized.

29,843 views Premiered May 18, 2023
A recent poll shows that a third of Canadians would support extending doctor-assisted suicide - or MAID - to the homeless and people whose sole condition is poverty. That figure should serve as an indictment of Canada’s leadership, but the reality is, our leaders will likely see it as an endorsement of their ideological push to expand euthanasia in Canada. MAID represented 3.8% of all deaths in Canada in 2021 and UN rights groups and disability rights groups have condemned this expanding practice. But it doesn’t end there. The Canadian government’s “safe supply” drug strategy is not only proving to be unsafe but actually indirectly fuelling and funding a deadly black market fentanyl trade. “Safe supply” from the government means giving taxpayer-funded tablets of hydromorphone – a more potent heroin alternative – to addicts. A National Post investigation into the failures of Canada’s “safe supply” program prompted a fiery exchange on the floor of the House of Commons between Pierre Poilievre and the minister of addictions Carolyn Bennett. Watch the latest episode of Ratio’d with Harrison Faulkner
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Dirty Rotten Imbecile · May 21, 2023

A third of Canadians would test an electric socket with a fork.

AARguy · May 21, 2023

Sounds like Canada is about to open DACHAU and AUSCHWITZ clinics.

DennisTate · May 21, 2023

AARguy said: ↑

Sounds like Canada is about to open DACHAU and AUSCHWITZ clinics.
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It does sound that way indeed.... ......
but I do believe that the people who did the poll knew how to send out the questionnaire to the type of people who would answer the poll in a certain way........

.... perhaps because they were wanting to raise funding from the Gates Foundation????????????

I am sure that the poll was NOT sent out to the type of people who would tend to NOT take the Covid 19 vaccine or join in the Trucker Convoy Protest against the Covid 19 Vaccine Mandate, in Ottawa!!!!

Was Innovation to zero merely about reducing pollution?

?
Is the TedX lecture "Innovation to zero" simply about reducing pollution?

Yes
3 vote(s)
75.0%

*
No
1 vote(s)
25.0%

I sure do hope so?????!!!!!
0 vote(s)
0.0%

I sure do hope not... because we humans are destroying the environment!!!!!
0 vote(s)
0.0%

Change Your Vote

DennisTate said: ↑

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ing-student-loan-debt.603225/#post-1073696552

Was the TedX lecture entitled "Innovation to zero" merely about reducing pollution?

I personally think that evidence is coming out now that essentially proves that Mr. Bill Gates is rather rabidly Neo - Malthusian and he may sincerely believe that only by reducing the world's population can the Ecology and the Environment be saved.

Frankly..... I admit that this is NOT A STUPID THEORY..... only an idiot could think that human productivity is only positive and could not be used to destroy the environment!!!!

Innovating to zero! | Bill Gates
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Dirty Rotten Imbecile said: ↑

A third of Canadians would test an electric socket with a fork.
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EXACTLY!!!!!!!

Which is one of the reasons why I do suspect that the people who did the poll may have been after Gates Foundation Funding!!!!!

Rabid fans of the CBC tend to have a lot in common with the few remaining extremely enthusiastic fans of CNN!!!

Dirty Rotten Imbecile · May 21, 2023

Ok the CBC has rabid fans.? What are they rabid about? Knitting socks?

DennisTate · May 21, 2023

Dirty Rotten Imbecile said: ↑

Ok the CBC has rabid fans.? What are they rabid about? Knitting socks?
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Well...for one thing.... "Rabid Fans of the CBC" would tend to support an Experimental Covi..... 19 Vaccine that was untested, unproven and potentially dangerous!

Dirty Rotten Imbecile · May 21, 2023

DennisTate said: ↑

Well...for one thing.... "Rabid Fans of the CBC" would tend to support an Experimental Covi..... 19 Vaccine that was untested, unproven and potentially dangerous!
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Are you sure that qualifies for “rabid’?

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