Your theology and a Basic Minimum Income?

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by DennisTate, Oct 26, 2022.

?

Should believers in Pro-Life support an Unconditional Basic Minimum Income?

  1. I am Pro-Choice and I DO NOT support an Unconditional Basic Minimum Income

    1 vote(s)
    5.6%
  2. I am Pro-Choice and I DO NOT support an Unconditional Basic Minimum Income

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. I am Pro-Life and I support an Unconditional Basic Minimum Income

    1 vote(s)
    5.6%
  4. I am Pro-Choice and I support an Unconditional Basic Minimum Income.

    6 vote(s)
    33.3%
  5. NO

    8 vote(s)
    44.4%
  6. YES

    2 vote(s)
    11.1%
  1. AARguy

    AARguy Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2021
    Messages:
    14,265
    Likes Received:
    6,652
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Fixing rents? Goodbye free markets. Hello communism.
     
  2. Dirty Rotten Imbecile

    Dirty Rotten Imbecile Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2016
    Messages:
    2,162
    Likes Received:
    873
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Well it’s fixing prices in buildings, not at a government level and it does work in other cities. It used to work in NA but co-op housing has slowly been eroded away until it hardly exists anymore.
     
  3. Bob Newhart

    Bob Newhart Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2021
    Messages:
    3,684
    Likes Received:
    1,477
    Trophy Points:
    113
    They have to heavily subsidize the housing too. And then they have to limit population growth. And then they have problems with landlords maintaining buildings. Over time a fixed rent will make a property actually lose money. And then insufficient taxes are being collected. People will start to never move stagnating an economy which may need workers to move in from other cities as well as go to other cities.
    1. Remove all restrictions to building. In more sparsely populated areas remove restrictions by trade unions including plumbing, electrical, contractor license, etc. In more populated areas remove the restrictions to zoning. Allow multi family housing to be built wherever they want. Allow multipurpose zoning as well.

    2. Remove all restrictions on the placement of prefabricated housing.

    3. Allow private water and sewage companies be built.

    4. Remove all rent caps.

    5. Allow private rail.
     
    DennisTate likes this.
  4. Farnsworth

    Farnsworth Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2010
    Messages:
    1,393
    Likes Received:
    469
    Trophy Points:
    83
    lol at 'free markets'. A few banks owning everything is a distinction without a difference re markets and communism for the unwealthy masses. Right Wingers have been waging war on 'free markets' forever; they hate free markets and competition.
     
  5. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2012
    Messages:
    31,684
    Likes Received:
    2,632
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    Wow!!!!

    You do have some exceptionally good ideas on all of this.......
    I admit that my now living in Mississauga may have led to me
    becoming quite biased.........

    ... but now I am truly of the belief that as a Christian I am responsible to......

    "Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison."
    [Matthew 5:25]


    And.... I must admit that there is an ancient Islamic prediction for the Last Hour that
    seems like brilliant advice for 2024.....that is relevant for everybody in Mississauga.......

    and for all thirty eight million Canadians but.......

    this prediction can be expanded to be proven to be relevant to TWO HUNDRED NATIONS!!!!!!!!


    Book 005, Number 2208:
    "Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (way peace be upon him) as saying: The Last Hour will not come before wealth becomes abundant and overflowing, so much so that a man takes Zakat out of his property and cannot find anyone to accept it from him and till the land of Arabia becomes meadows and rivers."
    SAHIH MUSLIM, BOOK 25: The Book on General Behaviour (Kitab Al-Adab)


    I may soon find myself involved in a race to become the new mayor of Mississauga and one important part of my platform will be to print up
    a Mississauga Dollar..... similar to www.CalgaryDollars.ca/

    but........
    I will also be advocating that THE OTTAWA SWAMP..... take a serious look at the rather brilliant 1938 to 1974 Bank of Canada policy that.....

    in my opinion.....

    gives us a foundation on which to build an UNCONDITIONAL BUT TAXABLE BASIC MINIMUM INCOME FOR ALL CANADIAN CITIZENS AND LEGAL RESIDENTS OF
    $777 PER MONTH.... FOR LIFE...... regardless of household income because setting up the bureaucracy to make sure that this money only goes to
    poor people who are underemployed would cost more......
    than avoiding that bureaucracy and simply paying it to ALL CANADIANS!!!!!!!!!


    I am of the belief THAT IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO LOWER HOUSING COSTS if.... we can put a lot more money into the hands of all Canadians????!!!!!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...t-record-high-in-2022.607027/#post-1073948749

    Immigration levels to Canada hit record high in 2022 ..



    When it comes to the option of turning deserts green as a response there are statistics that Mr. Al Gore does NOT WANT CANADIANS TO KNOW ABOUT........ because if they did they would know that a Carbon Tax WILL DO NOTHING TO PREVENT THE EVENTUAL serious RISE OF OCEAN LEVELS that will create millions of climate change refugees worldwide!

    "At a symposium of the Union of Geodesy and geophysics, Dr. Pyyotor Shoumsky reported that the south polar ice cap was growing at a minimum rate of 293 cubic miles of ice annually. To put that number in perspective, Lake Erie contains only 109 cubic miles of water. Thus, a volume of ice forms on top of the existing ice at Antarctica each year which is almost three times the volume of water in Lake Erie!" (Expanded Discussion of The HAB Theory, Gershom Gale, Expanded Discussion on the HAB Theory.)

    and.....


    "Let us consider Antarctica for a moment.
    We have already seen that it is big. It has a land area of 5.5
    million square miles, and is presently covered by something in excess
    of seven million cubic miles of ice weighing an estimated 19
    quadrillion tons (19 followed by 15 zeros). What worries the
    theorists of earth-crust displacement is that this vast ice-cap is
    remorselessly increasing in size and weight:'at the rate of 293 cubic
    miles of ice each year
    --almost as much as if Lake Ontario were frozen
    solidly annually and added to it.(Graham Hancock, Fingerprints of
    the Gods, page 480).


    So not only am I advocating deliberately turning deserts green......
    I am also advocating making MONEY ABUNDANT... so that people will not even want charity in the not too distant future!!!!!!


    Does the growth of ice on Antarctica explain why sea level have been stable?


    So.... I want to make MISSISSAUGA DOLLARS abundant.....
    in the spirit and intent of the Worgl Austria Local Money Experiment..... and I want to make Canadian Dollars abundant...... and I want to see plans put in motion to deliberately turn deserts green.... and I think that Mississauga is the perfect location from which to explain this option............ this is so much better than driving the Canadian and American and world economy into another Bear Market.... another 1929 as Biden and Trudeau have seemed to be intent on doing!


    Do Biden's advisors and Trudeau's advisors seem to want to crash the markets?




    ?
    Do Biden's advisors want to create an economic crisis?

    1. No
      8 vote(s)
      38.1%
    2. *
      Yes
      11 vote(s)
      52.4%

    3. I certainly hope not????
      2 vote(s)
      9.5%

    4. I hope so... because I know how to invest no matter which way this goes!
      0 vote(s)
      0.0%
    Change Your Vote
     
    Last edited: Jan 6, 2024
  6. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2017
    Messages:
    20,768
    Likes Received:
    9,044
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    For an unconditional basic income......it sounds like good intentions but it is "stealing". Remember "Thou Shalt Not Steal". When government does it, doesn't make it any better. You are free to give your money away, but not make others give theirs away through force of government. I believe that is consistent with everything in the Scripture.
     
    DennisTate likes this.
  7. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2012
    Messages:
    31,684
    Likes Received:
    2,632
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Money is like BLOOD in the economy.....
    so if an Unconditional but Taxable Basic Minimum Income went to ONE HUNDRED PERCENT OF CANADIANS.....
    AND TO ONE HUNDRED PERCENT OF AMERICANS......
    in order to fend off a Bear Market... another 1929...... how would that be stealing???????

    The implications of the President Abraham Lincoln Greenback Monetary Policy Experiment......
    is that The USA Dollar is owned by all Americans.......
    but the Washington Swamp keeps that information away from Americans.....

    through their Big Media...... that they own.....

    Do a search for the names Melvin Sickler on political forum....
    or for Alain Pilote because they brilliantly explain what President Lincoln did...... for all Americans......

    and.... the British North America Act of 1867 seems to take into consideration what President Lincoln proved about the creation of money!!!!!

    This idea was put out there by Economist Milton Friedman because.....
    he knew that an Unconditional but Taxable and EQUAL B. M. I. TO ALL CITIZENS... WAS ONE OF THE ONLY WAYS TO GET RID OF THE WELFARE BUREAUCRACY THAT IS DESTROYING AMERICA AND CANADA!!!!!
     
    Last edited: Jan 6, 2024

Share This Page