YouTube Bans Firearms Demo Videos, Entering the Gun Control Debate

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by rover77, Mar 21, 2018.

  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Free Enterprise means you get to decide what goes on in your business.

    a 7-11 has the right to ban customers who wear "we love Hillary" t-shirts.
     
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    Funny how you say that when it comes to your own point of advocacy, but I'm curious what your take was on that whole bakery issue??
     
  3. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    it should be illegal to refuse to sell a general cake to a Gay person or a Gay couple.

    but a store should have the right to refuse to add a pro-gay message to the cake.

    just sell them a general wedding cake, with no message.
     
  4. Moonglow

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    What are you talking about? A damn video on a PRIVATE website can't be shown has not a damn thing to do with any 1st amendments that the govt. provides....
     
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    Moonglow Well-Known Member

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    Remember there right wingers they got rid of net neutrality.......Suckers.....
     
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    I'm a Second Amendment supporter (very pro-gun), but also a First Amendment supporter. Youtube can host whatever they want or don't want, IMHO. That said, it sounds to me like you could have a good business venture by starting a gun-tube, or similar type website. It's not rocket science, and I bet you could get gun companies to advertise on it.
     
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    Make "GunVideos.com"

    problem solved
     
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    I would argue that social media including You Tube is now a public forum or 'town square' where free speech must be allowed
     
  9. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    accept it is privately owned and not open to the public.

    they can ban anyone for any reason, based on their TOS policy
     
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    Well let's check Youtube's mission statement and see if they are providing what they have told the public they can expect:

    https://www.youtube.com/yt/about/

    Our mission is to give everyone a voice and show them the world.

    We believe that everyone deserves to have a voice, and that the world is a better place when we listen, share and build community through our stories.


    Our values are based on four essential freedoms that define who we are.

    Freedom of Expression

    We believe people should be able to speak freely, share opinions, foster open dialogue, and that creative freedom leads to new voices, formats and possibilities.


    Freedom of Information

    We believe everyone should have easy, open access to information and that video is a powerful force for education, building understanding, and documenting world events, big and small.


    Freedom of Opportunity

    We believe everyone should have a chance to be discovered, build a business and succeed on their own terms, and that people—not gatekeepers—decide what’s popular.


    Freedom to Belong

    We believe everyone should be able to find communities of support, break down barriers, transcend borders and come together around shared interests and passions.


    Let's examine:

    1. No, they apparently don't believe everyone deserves to have a voice.

    2. No, they apparently don't believe everyone should be able to speak freely, share opinions, or foster open dialogue.

    3. No, they apparently don't believe in easy, open access.

    4. No, they apparently don't believe that people instead of gatekeepers should decide what is popular.

    5. No, they apparently don't believe everyone should be able to find communities of support, or to break down barriers.
     
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    They keep Jihadist videos up but ban American gun videos.

    lol
     
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    A retailer, such as Whole Foods, must pay suppliers for whatever inventory they are provided with, meaning they can selected what they will and will not carry based on whether or not it will sell in a manner that will justify the expenditure.

    The website Youtube, by comparison, does not pay users for the content they upload.
     
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    Google is already being sued for restricting certain kinds of videos on YouTube.

    "Now upping the ante, Prager demands a preliminary injunction that would prohibit YouTube from restricting viewer access to its videos absent evidence of graphic nudity, violence, profanity, obscene material, hate speech, or anything that would be considered 'objectively' offensive."
    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/t...g-google-censorship-pushes-injunction-1070959

    The First Amendment only prohibits government actions. I think there would have to be more federal legislation passed in order to resolve the matter- kind of like the Civil Rights Act which prohibits private companies which are open to the public from discriminating based on race. You could expand that to include political viewpoints.
     
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    So were the Christian bakers, Christian photographers, Christian florist. But certain people don't have any problem telling them how to run their business and demanding they serve everyone.
     
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    Youtube is a business, no different than a Christian baker. The people who demand Christian businesses must provide their services to everyone must demand Youtube provide its business service to everyone.
     
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    Certain people being the business license they signed agreeing to abide by public accommodation laws.
     
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    Technically you can't be Christian and be discriminatory! Its a straight to hell thing. With youtube being attacked on abusing personal data, amusing how you folk whine!
     
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    Not if they refuse the particular service to EVERYONE regardless of race, sex, or sexual orientation. Fail.
     
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    Read the post.

    If you demand a Christian baker provide her service to all people, particularly if the customer wants a standard service with no unusual modifications, then you must oppose you tube.

    The opponents to the Christians claimed that the Christians beliefs had no place in business. That's applies to you tubes beliefs as well - youtube cannot deny service to people because that person violates the personal beliefs of the youtube business owners.

    The hypocrisy of the anti-Christians, gun banners, and "progressives" is a great display, and everyone sees it.
     
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    WRONG. Christianity is all about judgement. Go learn what the Christina doctrine is before commenting about t.
     
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    God judges, we don't. Didn't you know?
     
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    WRONG.

    In Christianity, God judges whether a person goes to hell or Heaven. That's not a judgment people make.

    Christians are required to judge people to determine their associations, whether a person is qualified as a leader in the church, whether a person should be removed from association with the church.

    In order to minister and counsel, Christians are required to judge people.

    All straight from the Bible. You should read it before commenting.
     
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    And youtube fails your own test - youtube offers the exact same service to some, but not to all.

    You cannot win, your position is fundamentally and grossly flawed.
     
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    I love this. So American. Apparently you believe the Christian faith celebrates discrimination, nah demands it. Your God might have horns?
     
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    Christianity - as does almost every religion - demands discrimination. The fact you don't understand that simple fact is telling.

    In Christianity, the discrimination is between Christians and non-Christians, and between individuals based upon their behavior. In Christianity, supporting, enabling, encouraging someone to sin is itself a sin, and is the reason the Christian bakers refused to enable a sinful activity (same sex wedding).

    Go read the Bible.
     

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