Zelenskyy joins Canadian Parliament’s ovation to 98-year-old veteran who fought with Nazis

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  1. bigfella

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    Fascinating that this has at least two threads dedicated to it. Impressive level of groupthink & a remninder of how hostile the right wing information economy is to Ukraine.
     
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    Finland? Poland? The Baltic states? All invaded by Russia during WW2, none of them on the 'one team' at the time. I get that conservatives need to reduce everything to binaries, but WW2 is a bit more complicated than that. I realize you can't understand that, but its still worth pointing out.
     
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    How do you feel about trump dining with white supremacist Nick Fuentes? If Biden had dinner with a racist, you would be livid.
     
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    Democrats now be like ...... Nazis are cool now!
     
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    Did he chum around with Farrakhan like Obama did?
     
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    Are you incapable of reading past the RW propaganda headline? The guy who invited the Nazi to the House apologized and later resigned over the mistake. There are no Nazi sympathizers here, no matter how much RW extremist media wants to paint it that way.
     
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    What an embarrassment, however, we have to appreciate the fact that the House Speaker HONORABLY apologized and resigned.
     
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    You guys are the one that want to keep supporting the proxy war with the Ukrainian Nazis.
     
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    I'm embarrassed for my fellow liberals celebrating Nazism.
     
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    Except that nobody is celebrating Nazism, the mistake was acknowledged and properly apologized for. But then, you are not a liberal, and you should be embarrassed about the charade you are putting on here. There is a t word for this, but my post would be deleted if I would use it.
     
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    Nope. It only shows how ignorant people in general and the left in particular about history. If you opposed the Russians in World War II, you were in the German Army. You were not “a Ukrainian freedom fighter.” The Russians were our Allies during World War II. The break came soon after the war ended.
     
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    Poland was an ally. They had a government in exile in England. The Russians set up a puppet government after the war.
     
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    Staying focused on the topic - Yaroslav Hunka, 98, was sitting in the gallery when he was described as a “Ukrainian hero” and a “Canadian hero” to applause from prime minister Justin Trudeau and president Volodymyr Zelensky.

    Sorry, but I can't defend people who celebrate nazism. You are free to align yourself with who you wish, I tend to be selective of my company.
     
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    I would say that depends on if you are referring to the period before, or after the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was broken. In case you do not know, Germany and the Soviet Union agreed to divide Eastern Europe into spheres of influence, which was an agreement signed in Moscow in 1939 between the two powers. This agreement is what ultimately lead to Russia's military occupation of western Ukraine that same year. The pact between the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany was broken in June of 1941. As Americans we often think of WWII as beginning in December of 1941, but the fact of the matter is the war began years before we got involved, and for the majority of that period before we were involved, the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany were on the same side.

    This has been your WWII history 101 lesson, thank you for coming

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    As for the recent event in the Canadian parliament, while it is disturbing to see someone from the 14th Waffen Grenadier Division being honored, it was not brought to light that he served in that division until later.
     
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    :roflol:
    EXCEPT: At the time the "Ovation" was given, Hunka's Nazi ties were not generally known...
    Thus, Nobody was "celebrating nazism"...
    It was AFTER the fact that the Nazi connection was revealed.

    So? Give everybody a break with that sort of BS...:bored:
    Thx in advance...:salute:
     
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    Did Obama invite him? Trump invited the white supremacist to dinner. Has Trump decried Fuentes?

     
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    Hmm very interesting thought line on this. I for one can't support nazis.
     
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    It is inconceivable that Hunka's SS association was not known. He was brought to Parliament to be honored as a Ukrainian veteran. Does anybody really think no one asked what unit he served with? With that lone information, a bare-bones vetting would have revealed his unit's association with atrocities against Polish civilians (the Huta Pieniacka massacre, in which they burned 500 to 1,000 Polish villagers alive). It's not like this guy tried to keep it a secret. He ran a blog for himself and his comrades!

    Also, it takes a special kind of stupid to stand up and cheer after he's hailed as a "Ukrainian hero, and a Canadian hero" for fighting Russians while, in WW2, the Russians were our allies.

    The Speaker's resignation doesn't get Trudeau off the hook, either. He was aware of this guy before he was introduced on the floor of Parliament. Hunka's grand-daughter took a photo of Trudeau and Zelensky with her grandfather beforehand.
     
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    Lololol…..apparently you don’t know who Biden eulogized as a great man and was a mentor to Clinton.
     
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    So what you’re saying it’s not their fault because they’re stupid.
     
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    Your link is dead, but this should suffice.

     
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    Explains a lot about Australia :wierdface:¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    The link works. I had to edit from first posting it. Try it again. Interesting segment. There's even one guy in the video that was deported from the US for his WW2 past who just went across the border and took up residence in Canada, LOL.

    Anyway, this link works.

    https://twitter.com/MarkAmesExiled/status/1706998956322934918
     
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