Zimmerman Trial Day 5

Thank you mister White person or whatever race you are for telling me what to be offended by. If you're White are you REALLY offended by another White person calling you a redneck??? REALLY??? There is absolutely no racial slur that has the social equivalence of the n-word.

 

The cops were not there at the exact time of the killing of Trayvon in self defense.

Though they were just after that and obviously they took a bunch of pictures.

 

Ok lets roll with your scenario for a minute...

If zimmy did touch treyvon first and tried to hold him down, then treyvon has the right to defend himself. However defending yourself is not mounting someone and "beating his ass". At that point the "poor child" was no longer defending and was currently assualting. Apparently it was so bad that it made zimmy fear for his life.

So all the pross has to do is prove it wasnt self defense. Which will be hard considering there was only 1 shot, and zimmy tried to subdue him afterwards until police arrived.

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Again that maybe true, but i would be greatly offended if anybody called me a redneck.

 

At what point in your theory is it not self defense for Zimmerman?

The only thing your theory proves if true is that Zimmerman was the aggressor, which still means it's self defense if Zimmerman feared for his life or great bodily harm from Trayvon "beat(ing) his ass".

 

I'm unaware of those pictures. I haven't been following the case very closely so if you have link to some maybe you can post it.

 

So if Z was the aggressor he still gets to kill his victim without any consequences because he feared for his life while killing his victim. Now that's an excellent law. That's like a bank robber claiming that he's justified robbing banks because the banks will loan out the money unless he robs them before they make loans.

 

1. He was walking in a neighborhood that he wasn't too familiar with on a rainy dark night talking on the phone. THOSE ARE FACTS
I contend that his Black skin made him look suspicious.
2.Well Zman shouldn't be apart of the NW if he doesn't want to uphold their policies. He should've started his own security company and petitioned the NW for a contract.
3. Were you there??? That's why the case is in court, to get more info than that provided by Zman. All we have is Zmans word and he is a proven liar and has a record of violence. I'm looking at this case from a racial point of view because I am Black and I've dealt with other peoples perceptions of me all of my life. It is hard to prove your true intentions when you are automatically perceived as public enemy #1.
So me being Black and siding with Trayvon is racist and dumb??? While you being White&Hispanic and siding with Zman is neither "racist" or "dumb"??? So I must conclude that your skin color/racial ethnicity makes you omniscient and infallible??? I give up

 

No he wasn't. He was standing by the clubhouse, out of the rain, talking to his friend on a Bluetooth.

Enjoy having unqualified, ex-cons, running around your neighborhood at night, stalking teenagers on cell phones. The litigation costs of your county will be out of control. Bankruptcy.

How about an armed maniac woman beater?

You're an idiot if you believe that. Didn't you watch Zimmerman's re-enactment of the encounter? He's clearly a disturbed individual.

Did you flunk out of college level Juvenile Delinquency like Zimmerman did? Or do you just prescribe to your own brand of logic, the kind that has no use?

 

1. Zman didn't have the right to subdue,hold or detain Trayvon, wait for it... because he wasn't committing a crime!!!
2. You have the right to be offended and I have the right not to be offended, true???

 

Zimmerman was going to Target with...get this...a loaded gun.

I'm never shopping at Target again.

 

Maybe you need to start following this case more closely then if your going to make statments like the "the cops didn't take any pictures", which is patently false.

And i'm not your huckleberry so go find them yourself.

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No loss for anyone.

 

Love the link

 

What are you a Target employee?

I'll take my business to Walmart.

 

1. Trayvon was commiting a crime, its called, wait for it..... Assualt. Thats how he got himself shot.

2. Yes it is true. But i was not discussing rights. I was just telling you that there are white people who take strong offense to people who call them rednecks.

 

1. You can contend until you fall over, but you don't have a shred of evidence to support your contention.

2. Not a bad idea. But providing security for the residents trumps the dumb police-based rules of the NW group. The residents come first, not some NW aristocrats.

3. No, Zimmerman's word is NOT all we have. We have the word of a bunch of witnesses who back Zimmerman's story. You need to get off this "Black" thing. You think the whole world is out to beat you, and in the meantime, the only one who really is beating you, is YOU, for thinking that. where do you get the idea that you are perceived as public enemy # 1 ? I know dozens of Black people, and none of them think that.
That's right. Siding with Zimmerman is neither racist or dumb. It is based on an observation of the facts that he followed correct security procedure, as defined by the state of Florida, and he shot someone who stupidly attacked him. And my skin color doesn't make me anything. My actions are what make me what I am. Same with you, and everyone else. Get it ?

 

Yeah, it makes one think. I recently saw a new episode of Cops:Reloaded and a White cop pulled over a car with four Black men in there early twenties. They were on their way to a party or something similar. They all were packing and informed the officer. Of course he called back up. He ran all of their names and it checked out that all of them were legally registered and licensed to carry their guns. I loved it, you should have seen the cops faces. I think more Black youth (especially Floridians) should follow this example and stay clear of peers that break laws so if they find themselves in a Trayvon like situation they can shoot first and ask questions later.

 

Those young Target shoppers are on their way to a lifetime of refreshing Watermelon Iced Tea, and tangy Skittles. A troglodyte like Zimmerman would've never have stalked those young men, seeing how they probably had far better grades than he did...at least a 1.5 GPA. I'll bet George is proud of his lifetime accomplishments so far. How sad.

 

1.I contend that based on Zman's previous phone calls MOSTLY identifying suspicious Black males.
2.NW or private security is ONLY relevant because Zman was NW and didn't follow their policy, had he those "police based rules" would have kept Trayvon alive.
3.Excuse me but some of those witnesses back Trayvon while Zmans story is built on quicksand. Meaning it's doomed from the start because he didn't follow protocol of the NW. My proof that Blacks are seen as threats is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DOrOPdNz3U GDAY!!!

A Stanford University Psychologist addresses the Harvard University Law School where she describes several experiments that suggest White males & police officers subconsciously perceive Black Males as criminal and less than human. The results provide evidence of a strong automatic bidirectional association between Blacks & Crime. The image of a Black male can trigger unconscious thoughts of crime and thinking of crime can trigger unconscious thoughts of Black people. The simple presence of a Black Male may unknowingly cause thoughts of crime and violence attributed to that person. Other topics discussed include: Racial Profiling, Suspect Lineups, Death Penalty Sentencing, & the Association with Blacks & Animals.

Lecture Date: March 10, 2007


Additional Research Information:

Journal of Personality and Social Psychology (Vol. 87, No. 6, 876-893)
Seeing Black: Race, Crime, and Visual Processing (pdf format)
http://bit.ly/8ROvZ

Journal of Personality and Social Psychology (Vol. 94, No. 2, 292-306)
Not Yet Human: Implicit Knowledge, Historical Dehumanization, and Contemporary Consequences (pdf format)
http://bit.ly/cTNFt0

Journal of Experimental Social Psychology (Vol. 39, 399-405)
Targets of Discrimination: Effects of race on responses to weapons holders (pdf format)
http://bit.ly/1Qzk3M

 

I see no evidence of that.

Not stalking. Maybe you don't know the stalking law. Costs ? Scott thought they'd be cheaper than the riots threatened bt the RRRR thugs.

Maybe you'd like to say he changes into a wolf, when the moon is full, too ? In this case, his actions were proper.

Maybe if you presented some evidence to back your wild claims, you might get taken seriously.

Mindless, silly comment, not worthy of response.

 

What are you thinking ? I've been in Target dozens of times with my loaded gun. I've been in WalMart with my loaded gun dozens of times as well. I've been to my bank (especially there) with my loaded gun. And so have lots of other people doing the same. Of course. So ???

And what's with this "loaded" thing ? The gun wouldn't be much good if it wasn't loaded, would it ? What do you think we're talking about ? A school play ?

 

sir....SIR...put down the gun and please let me go shop at Walmart.

 

1.So Zman can predict the future or Trayvon was ass(au)lting him by walking in the rain talking on his phone??? Your pick genius.
2.No, originally I responded to the protectionest who was telling me that I have to offended by another person calling me the n-word and he went so far to include other Black people. So I asked him would he be offended if called a redneck by another White person. I didn't ask YOU that question, did I???
You are either very young or socially inept because your debate skills are not even rudimentary level.

 

1. Yeah ? Well, MOSTLY means >> more than half. And if 51% of his calls were about Black males, just maybe that's because 51% of the suspicious people WERE BLACK MALES. So ????

2. Trayvon died because he was an idiot who attacked somebody, not because of any rules. I've done security with the correct rules (following & confronting suspects) for 38 years, and nobody died. Millions of guards follow and confront every day without anybody dying.

3. The only witnesses that have any substance are John Good and Sanford Police officder Smith, both of whom back Zimmerman. The other witnesses are a joke. As for the NW faulty police-based protocol, it is "inconsequential", as Judge Alex Ferre stated today on CNN. It's perfectly legal for Zimmerman to follow a suspect, and it is correct procedure.

4. You can skip studies when talking to me. They say what their authors want them to say. You can find a study to say anything. Whooooopeee!

 

Trayvon was not committing assault. He was committing attempted murder.

If you can't be like the thousands of people who shopped at WalMArt when I was there, with my gun in my pocket, all I can say is >>> Not my problem.

 

On an ex-con who was armed and had been stalking him for the last 15 minutes.

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They don't lower the prices for you. A Nintendo Wii is the same price for you if you don't hold up the place with your .22.