Zodiac?

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  1. Quantrill

    Quantrill New Member

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    I doubt I can satisfy your question as there is much that is difficult for us to grasp about God.

    God is the Creator and all powerful and knowing. And He created Lucifer, knowing who he was, knowing who he would become, and did so for His own purposes.

    My understanding at this point is this. God did not create Lucifer evil. He created Lucifer. Just like God did not create Adam evil. He created Adam. Yet, God gave to Lucifer and man, a will. God could have made them without a will, totally mechanical in their movements and protect from any possible sin or a will against Him.

    And if your trace sin down to its most common denominator, it is nothing but another will other than God's will. It doesn't have to be immoral, or some terrible crime. It just has to be a will other than God's will. This is why the eating of the fruit in the garden was a sin. Another will in opposition to God's will.

    And Satan, when he rebelled against God did so with the phrase, 'I will' five times. Is. 14:12-15. And God rebuked him with His statements of His will that will prevail. Eze. 28:11-19

    So, when God made the creature, angel or man, He made the possibility and inevitibility of evil and sin. Not by creating evil, but by creating the creature with a will.

    God did so, knowing exactly what He was doing. But this creature with a will is what He wanted, and the war that has followed through the ages is also what He wanted serving His purposes for both His people and His angels.

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    The signs of the Zodiac are based on constellations.
    Constellations are shapes people see in the stars.
    The signs of the Zodiac are a quasi-religious classification developed based on the characters in those perceived shapes and related to behavior characteristics (mostly through the use of power of suggestion and generalities).
     
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    The central strip of the night sky was divided into 12 sections and assigned images by Sumerians. They based their calendar on a 360 day year with 12 months. 12 x 12 = 360. It is the reason we all the way to the present time divide a circle into 360 degrees. The number is arbitrary, but it is useful because 360 has so many divisors.

    Now notice that the Sumerians were wrong. A year is not 360 days. But anyway they preferred the evenness and usefulness of the number despite it being wrong because they believed in cosmic order. But their belief in cosmic order was itself wrong.

    "Did other cultures also see constellations in the sky?
    Nearly every culture on Earth has seen patterns in the stars. But, not surprisingly, very few have seen the same patterns. Take, for example, the Big Dipper, perhaps the most recognizable star pattern in the sky. The Big Dipper is not actually a constellation itself, but is part of a larger pattern known to the Greeks as Ursa Major, the Great Bear. The seven stars of the Big Dipper have inspired many stories, perhaps because they are bright and located so near the north celestial pole, around which the stars rotate during the course of the night. But not everyone calls it a Dipper. The British call it a Plough. In Southern France, it is a Saucepan. The Skidi Pawnee Indians saw a stretcher on which a sick man was carried. To the ancient Maya, it was a mythological parrot named Seven Macaw. Hindu sky lore called it the Seven Rishis, or Wise Men. To the early Egyptians, it was the thigh and leg of a bull. The ancient Chinese thought of it as a special chariot for the Emperor of the Heaven or some other celestial bureaucrat. For the Micmac Indians of Canada's Maritime Provinces, along with several other North American Indian tribes, the bowl of the Big Dipper was a bear, and the stars in the handle represented hunters tracking the bear. And in the nineteenth century, the Big Dipper became a symbol of freedom for runaway slaves, who "followed the Drinking Gourd" to the northern states."

    http://www.physics.csbsju.edu/astro/asp/constellation.faq.html#other_cultures
     
  4. Quantrill

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    Actually the signs of the Zodiac are based on the suns progression through its yearly cycle along the line knows as the ecliptic.

    Have you ever tried to make out any of the shapes in the stars with the Zodiacal signs? Aries the Ram is three stars. How you get a ram out of three stars is beyond me. There was a message attached to these stars which involved a ram.

    Im not talking about astrology.

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    That the Zodiac goes back to the earliest of civilizations, no one denies. Its origin is however, God. The message in the Zodiac is the gospel message of redeemption. As I said earlier, it is no coincidense that the wise men of the east, the magi, they who studied the stars, recognized it and used this revelation in searching for the Messiah, Jesus Christ.

    The Zodiac is different in that it is the signs of the stars that follow the suns path along the ecliptic line for a year.

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