Women share their abortion experiences

not trying to trivialize your experience, but how does you on a personal level regretting your decision mean that it is ok to make abortion illegal .. you had the choice and you made it, why should you be allowed to take that same choice away from others.

Any operation can have an emotional effect on people, especially if a sedation drug is taken (as is often the case in abortions)

 

You asked

and I responded to the highlighted part, the rest of your response I basically agree with.

 

Why didn't you tell anyone? Did you think your family would disaprove? But the tears were not necessarily because it was "more than a clump of cells." I think women might mourn a lost potential. They would wonder what might have been, but that doesn't mean the decision was wrong.

 

Ahhh, the age old question that always gets asked. This isn't my first rodeo and it never fails that this question is the first one asked. I will ask you one in return. If you made choices when you were young, say smoking pot or doing hard core drugs or driving drunk and you later understood how wrong it was, wouldn't you tell your kids or share with whoever would listen how wrong you believed it was? If so, why would you try and take those choices away from your kids or anyone else for that matter? And don't come back with all those are illegal and abortion is not (although pot smoking is legal in some states). Whether something is illegal or not doesn't always determine whether it is right or wrong.

Me regretting it means there are other women regretting it and wishing they hadn't been lied to or at the very least helped to make a truly informed decision. And I would ask, what makes your view better than my view as far as who determines what happens in this situation?

Seriously? It was years long grieving process. It wasn't just shed a few tears and be done with it. It wasn't just having my appendix taken out and I shed a few tears because of sedation.

 

And because you can't get over it you think no one else shold be allowed to make THEIR own decisions....you sound just like churchmouse who you addressesed a few posts back....VERRRRRY similar

 

I didn't want to tell anyone. End of story. I mourned the loss of my child by my own hand, which brings extra shame and guilt that you don't have from a miscarriage (had one of those too).

 

And what exactly are you implying? That I'm her? And I never said "I can't get over it." I have dealt with it and moved on.

 

It is simply not the purpose of law to determine what is right or wrong. It is only the purpose of law to maintain order in society.

 

In truth I would try to guide my children from my experiences, however I would not try to take away their right to choose and neither could I unless I locked them away from the world. The pro-life stance of trying to make abortion illegal is little more than enforcing their will onto others.
Whether something is illegal or not is irrelevant to me, though I will use that argument when pro-lifers say abortion is murder.

I've been debating abortion issues for ten years, I doubt there is a question I haven't seen or been asked before and in the end I have debated with very, very few pro-lifers who eventually don't resort to the usual practices.

The question still remains on the table, but I will rephrase it -

Even though you had an abortion and regretted it, and no one is saying you cannot pass on your experiences to others in the hope it will guide them, why is it ok for you to campaign for the removal of a right that you have used yourself, which at the time must have been the correct decision for you (unless you were forced to have the abortion)?

and there are women who have suffered just as much because of going through with a pregnancy.

 

Nice slide but you didn't answer the question.

"""you had the choice and you made it, why should you be allowed to take that same choice away from others?""



Why would deny other people the right to make their own decisions???....other people are NOT your children, YOU are not responsible for them.

 

It doesn't bring shame and guilt to everyone, in fact, studies show that most women feel relief.

 

And what exactly would those "usual practices" be? (btw, welcome to the 10 or more year club, so have I)

Because like you I have the right to change my mind about anything and like you I have the right to campaign against anything I desire to. Your right to campaign for abortion doesn't super cede my right to campaign against it because I did the very thing I am now campaigning against.

I'm sure there are and there are other women that are glad they didn't abort.

 

Have you ever read the New Zealand longitudinal study where they weren't even looking for mental health issues in women who had abortions but actually found an increase in it?

 

Answered in another post.

 

Oh and btw, what gives you the right to campaign against (and tell your children from your experiences) anything you did in your youth that you may now think is wrong? If you drank and drove, but now campaign against that, what gives you the right to do so? If you did drugs, and are now campaigning against it, what gives you the right to do so? It could be anything that you thought was okay then, but feel is wrong now...how can you justify doing so?

 

So does that prove causation? From an APA study:

My daughter had a friend who became pregnant after H.S. graduation. Her loser boyfriend gave her half the price of an abortion and disappeared from her life. She was able to go to college, get married, get a job, have two kids, is happy, stable, and living her dream. I'm so glad no one was there to convince her that she should marry that jerk, or beome a single mother because having an abortion would ruin her life.

 

Sounds like her life was far from ruined! Sounds like a perfectly normal life, someone making mistakes in life, rectifying them and learning from them and moving on.

 

Nice red herring. Did you read the study or not?

 

Oh please, I'm a strong conservative woman, a single mother and I don't believe women are less than men.

 

Did you give a link? What red herring? I have read studies finding that those who have mental problems after an abortion most likely had them before the abortion.

 

Oh? And what post was that?

 

The fact is to say that she does not suffer from abortion...mentally, emotionally...no study can say.

I had an abortion...and it hit me twenty five years later. I had a happy marriage, kids...we lived comfortably...have a loving family...had it all. And when I realized what I had done....it hit me. I read about what science has to say about life in the womb...and this news devastated my life. I know you can't understand this...for many reasons...but it is the truth. I lived it...and I know others who have as well. IT NEVER LEAVES A WOMANS MEMORY...NEVER. Sure you move on...you live...but it is there. Its one mistake you can never fix or take back.

 

No, I didn't give a link. I asked a question and you didn't answer.

The red herring was changing the subject from my question.

Here is a link to a short article: http://www.mcpscurriculum.com/pdf/Abortion_mental_health.pdf

I'm trying to find the article, but it's been a while and I've lost all my links that I had. The guy that did it is pro-choice and didn't expect to find the answers he did in this 25 year long study. Notice that in every case of abortion there was an increased risk.

Here is about the author: http://www.whoislog.info/profile/david-m-fergusson.html

 

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Cady said,

Why was he the loser...she was the one who aborted, right? Based on your position...it was here baby all along...her body and she should have footed the bill herself. She consented, she took the risk...its on HER. He was a nice guy to give her money....the hit money.

Of course you think killing is the option your pro-abortion...so for you killing is the only solution...quick and easy.