I am glad you are here...sharing. These people don't get it. They can try hard...but they can't. I remember sitting in line waiting for my turn. Quiet...nobody talking, somber. I remember the sound of the machine. I never even saw the abortionist. I closed my eyes. I remember it hurt so bad I wanted to die. The nurse told me to hold still...I kept trying to sit up....After it was over I felt empty but relieved. Then they took me to a room full of women who had just killed their babies. Again quiet...one girl was crying into her pillow. I was numb. I didn't know anything about fetal development.. but I think underneath I know it was more than blobs of tissue. That is why this issue is so emotional. People know what abortion does. They just don't have the guts to admit that they condone killing living human beings.
Oh dear, you really do hate women if you think the pregnancy was her fault alone, and she should be punished, if not by being forced to gestate and give birth to the baby, at least by having to pay for the abortion herself.
I have a strong inkling you have not moved on at all. In lieu of trying to take back what you believe was a mistake you made for yourself you wish to restrict every woman's choice to have an abortion because you seem to think every woman will come to regret her decision as you did (and that's assuming if you even really had an abortion to begin with).
Many women are never able to completely move on. Losing a child, and on top of that knowing that you were the one responsible, can be a very traumatic life-long experience. All the more reason to protect women from making this awful choice. If there are 2 women who get abortion, and one woman regrets it and the other is not the slightest bit phased, that is reason enough. If I do not misunderstand, the main justification pro-choicers try to use is that abortion is good for women. When you have a walking bag of damaged goods for every satisfied woman, there really is not much justification left for killing babies. Did it ever occur to you that the women who regret their abortions might regret it far more than the relief other women may get from having abortions? Pro-choicers say abortion is all about choice, but often times nothing could be further from the truth: http://www.unfairchoice.info/intro.htm [video=youtube;NpPbAipAky0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NpPbAipAky0[/video]
sounds like you been listening to some crazy pro-lifers... we create our own suffering, let it go, if you believe in god, believe god is good and would not deny a soul the human experience just cause a person miscarried or had an abortion
I am pro-choice, I support the right to chose either or... I do not want a nanny government that forces women to give birth or forces them to abort, that is not the governments place so of course I do not mind if a women chooses to carry their pregnancy to term.. I want them to have that choice .
How convenient. Because as soon as it's any other issue besides abortion, 99% of "pro-choicers" are anti-choice. Two can play at that game. Don't you believe the unborn deserve equality?
Please don't fall into the same vein as so many others of trying to place words into my mouth, I have never said I campaign against any of those things. I will give my experiences to my children and to others if requested and if they are relevant .. however I do not "campaign" to remove their right to choose the path they take.
Oh you know the usual pro-choicers are all murderers, love abortion, are Nazi's, are just like slave owners, and assuming something said means something entirely different .. those usual practices. That has nothing to do with the question, no one is saying you can't change your mind about anything or put your experiences to use in advising others, you see I don't campaign for abortion, I campaign for the right to choose .. you however want to campaign to remove choice. Just as there are those who are glad they did.
assumption without evidence is just opinion, I would bet that you are far more anti-choice than I am.
You know Anders you hit the nail on the head again with this post. They are anti-choice when it comes to health care, schools. They are gun grabbers. They are anti-anything the Right wants and believes in.
Well then, you've just met someone different. I don't call names, or insult people's intelligence. I debate the issues. Actually I campaign for the rights of the baby. And because I've had such and such experience doesn't disqualify me from doing so. In fact, because of that experience, I know more about what abortion actually entails, much like the drunk driver who gets caught knows more because of his experience. But as I've come to learn, you would rather someone like me sit down and shut up. And this is your way of trying to do so, by claiming I have no right to campaign against it because I experienced it.
I didn't ask about "campaigning" against their right to choose, I asked about campaigning against anything you now have come to realize is wrong. Simple question, what gives you the right to do so?
Actually I am pro-choice on Guns too, it's a right not a privilege as some seem to think, some have already taken the right away from those that have done paid for past crimes and those on anti-depressants ect a privilege can be taken away, not a right, some in BOTH parties seem to forget that.... you have a choice of schools, even home schooling your children if you want... for health care I wanted a public option like Obama wanted, not the conservatives individual mandate .
Yes and you also think it is a right and a privilege for a woman to be able to kill a living human in the womb. So sad. A moral system so out of whack. Some people do not have a choice they have no choice but public schools because they don't have the funds. But the LEFT want to deny them choice, vouchers to be able to choose. Why? Its your way of brainwashing the masses of kids to your secular humanistic worldview. So you deny them the right. You wanted forced health insurance....and today people are forced by our government.
You know you bring up a good point or observation. These are people who know something is morally wrong....who want it legal so people can choose. Boy that is standing on something moral isn't it? That is why they are pro-abortion...they want killing legal...so they can encourage people to use the option they know is immoral. The same principle can be used for drugs or rape or incest...you name it. Legalize it so some can go it. Unbelievable...
I don't hate women at all. I don't hate anyone. I dislike things and people and I play devils advocate with you pro-aborts because you fall into the trap every time. I show how ridiculous, how hypocritical, irrational your position is. Thats why i constantly bring up late term abortion. Certainly the pregnancy was not her fault. It takes two to created a child. But you only give her rights to the child. Its her right to abort, to keep it...because its her body. So based on that...what I state should logically be your stance. But you hate men. You give them, you strip their rights away...and the child is biologically half theirs. You go after him ONLY for money...he should pay if she needs an abortion, he should pay if she wants to keep it. Whatever SHE WANTS...even though he might not agree with her position. You know people make decisions in life and the reality is most people have to pay. You kill someone you might be on death row...you get a DUI you go to jail...if you break our laws usually you have to pay. You take out ten credit cards and charge them to their limits....who should have to pay? Me? of YOU? Life is full of punishments and consequences....and although an unwanted pregnancy might be one....abortion should never be the solution. Its the only mistake someone can make that potentially can kill another person. By your own rules...the woman should have to pay.....its her body and it was her decision to have sex. She could have said no.
Abortion has been around forever, both illegal and legal(FORTY YEARS in the US) and drugs, rape, incest are STILL ILLEGAL...so much for your erroneous slippery slope theory...it's nuts! GEE, WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST SAY NO????? OOOPS!
I am not alone on earth. I know there are billions over the years like me who have made mistakes they regret. People change their minds. People wish they could take back actions...decisions because of the consequences they encountered. Obama was against gay marriage...and he flip flopped. Gabby Gifford the politician who was shot in Tucson last year....is now on the road to take away certain guns. That experience changed her life and she is now focused to make the laws stricter on guns. People are passionate about issues...and opinion and stances can change. Because one changes stances does not mean they have not moved on. I am in a great place....one you can't comprehend...because your stuck in a box...your judgmental and you don't even see yourself this way. That is sad. The fact is...I am sharing my experiences with people. I have an experience to share. Do you? What brings you to this topic? Why are you so passionate about killing unborn children? I can share my experience and emotions because I have been there. I am sure there are women who don't regret their abortions. I am sure you wouldn't...your morality does not cover the life in the womb obviously. This is one act that you can never take back. It kills. And you can't bring something that has been killed back. I believe the majority of women suffer silently over their abortions. They might have felt relief...at the time...but relief can turn to depression later on. You might see something that reminds you of that day...might hear people talking about the issue....who knows....but no one will ever convince me that the majority of women don't feel bad and feel remorse. I am reminded of it every time I fill out new paperwork at doctors offices. They ask how many pregnancies you have had. I have two children...but three pregnancies....they word it of course in a different way (pregnancy) to avoid emotionalist finger pointing... but the implications are there. You come to this topic...only from head knowledge. You have never had an abortion...and anyone who has never had one does not really know abortion intimately. I am glad you don't. Women should be educated about everything abortion entails....fetal development, physical and emotion things. And any woman who is going to have one should be required to get an ultrasound. - - - Updated - - - Say no to what? Abortion? My abortion? What?
WhatNow!? said, "Abortion has been around forever, both illegal and legal(FORTY YEARS in the US) and drugs, rape, incest are STILL ILLEGAL...so much for your erroneous slippery slope theory...it's nuts!" And rape and murder and child abuse have also been around forever. Should they be illegal because we can't prosecute them all? They should be decriminalized shouldnt they? Late term abortion should be de-criminalized too, right? The bolded? I see no bolded.... I think cocktail hour started at your house already......
LOL! You see no bolded red in post #347 ? WHO took advantage of the Cocktail hour ? Or is it the "I just can't face reality and truth" syndrome?
This shows why people should not fornicate no matter wht birth control one uses, one canget pregnant and some birth control causes early abortion (Pill, IUD) fornication is not worth it for one thing many are broken heartd when things dont work out. when you are in the middle of some great romance (so you think) you believe you will always love that person, that nothing will change (4 the worst) you are usually WRONG people feel vastly diferent after fornicating withtheir signif other... sex b4 marriag is a great sin the worst consequence is that someone will end up thinking the child that results should be murdered...