Is Abortion Murder?

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Fugazi, Mar 22, 2013.

  1. Casper

    Casper Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    They do it all the time, and the conservatives are no less guilty in that area, stop being so Partisan, that is part of the problem with our government these days. Ahhh, you ASSume that I and other Libs do not give, that simply shows your total ignorance on the matter. Yes, it should come from the heart, but since we already KNOW there are not enough hearts out there we as a People must do something, your answer is to let them suffer, and you call yourself and this Nation a Christian Nation and speak of deeds needing to be done, hmmmm, I wonder what HE thinks of that thought process. Then you weed out the bad eggs, the answer is not to kill off the programs all together, don't be so lazy. And then you concluded with the same old rhetoric, which is not worthy of further response.
     
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    For crying out loud, learn how to quote in the forum. Show me where I said what you claim below. But anyway, Marriage is a union between one man and one woman. Ask Bill Clinton, he passed a law codifying that fact. How can a gay couple be married?


     
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    You probably give to secular Christian hating organization hell bent on trying to take our religious rights away....like the ACLU.

    Well run run run.....can't response why? To hard of an issue...don't like the answer?

    I do not believe in forcing people to give up what they have a right to keep. We have millions of welfare that should not be on welfare. The rules help them stay on welfare. Anyone on government assistance (except the mentally disabled and handicapped or those to old to work) should have to work. We should start programs that would put these people to work for what they get. I don't care if its landscaping...or meals on wheels....or what....they should have to work for what they get.
     
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    Wrong as usual, I do not give to the ACLU, I give to charities that help feed and house people along with a womans shelter and two different Churches, Assuming only makes you look foolish, you are doing a fine job.
    Run? I have been discussing this issue with you daily, I would not call that running, but then again you do see things as you want to and not as they really are.
    I already said I am for weeding out the abusers, again your selective reading kicks in, try reading what I post not what you think I am posting. Once again I will remind you, seems like memory is another issue for you, MANY people drawing assiatnce ARE working, they are called the working poor, why not give them training to get a better job, oh wait the right is against that also. Many are children, want to put them to work also, oh wait your are a right-winger, silly question, of-course you do. You care about the unborn but after that too bad, typical right-wing mindset. You are good at repeating the same old talking points, not so good at a debating, try reading what people post and thinking about what they said before replying, you might get this down one of these days.
     
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    sorry, your right, I was repying to church mouse who said that, not you, so that is what I was replying too

    we have many legally married same sex couples in this country, they did it that same way heterosexuals do it

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    The ACLU has defended christians and christian organizations.......a FACT.
     
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    Only a same sex couple cannot logically be married. I explained why above.

    BTW, whay are you trying to change the subject and hijack the thread?

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    Taking your toys and going home are ya? :roflol:

     
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    really? rather then have religious freedom for all, you would rather choose to destroy everything we have?

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    If that religion condones the killing of the most innocent among us intentionally, as abortion promoters do, then yes I am with Church!


    We know from biblical teachings that this nation will no longer be standing in the end times anyway.
     
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    as I said we already have many legally married same sex couples in this country, so it can be done and has been many times over

    but as you said, I think this post got us off topic

    http://www.politicalforum.com/abortion/294866-abortion-murder-35.html#post1062476156
    " Example...this gay marriage issue. God doesn't condone gay marriage..."
     
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    Christians by far have the most abortions in this county, more then 2\3 of them

    which is why many fanatical Christians do not care about the Earth, they feel God is just gonna destroy it soon anyways
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    There is no credible evidence to back that up and you know it. I will not be baited by your lies.

     
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    "U.S. Abortion Statistics"

    http://www.abort73.com/abortion_facts/us_abortion_statistics/

    "43% of women obtaining abortions identify themselves as Protestant, and 27% identify themselves as Catholic (AGI)."

    for those two groups of Christians equals 70% of all abortions right there alone
     
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    Actually you know there is. While you ignored the links to CDC, and other data confirming it, unambiguously, surely you saw the link, and if you have normal human curiosity (or wanted to find contradictions within the data) you likely even clicked the link.

    So there you have it: Quite likely, Christians have more abortions, on average, than non-Christians. So if fewer abortions is your goal, perhaps encourage folks to join Islam, Judaism or become Atheists. Maybe that'll help stem the MURDER(!!!) of the unborn -- BY CHRISTIANS!!!!
     
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    You beat me to it! Sorry, I'm a slow typist. :)
     
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    Proof of their inner selves and their ultimate agenda, kinda of sad to see from fellow Americans, which I do not consider them to be any longer.
     
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    Government "charity" (welfare) breeds habituation to that welfare.

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    Government welfare is a program of vote buying.
     
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    Casper said,

    Wow you are a perfect person aren't you?

    How are things? How are things for the unborn in the womb? You know the unborns that you condone to be slaughtered by abortion? Your side ignores the facts. That which you condone to die in the womb are living human beings. FACT.

    And who are the abusers? I see what you are posting, no problem doing that.


    The Left are for forcing people to do what they want them to do not what they want to do. Its all about control. Debating...please. This is not a formal debate...not on any level. It's a punching ground where people just let off steam...same thing from everybody. What do you present? Nothing, scientific...nothing that is fact.

    So you don't think its right for me to assume that you don't do anything for mankind. And then you tell me I don't do anything for children already born? So its ok for you to assume but me....I can't? LOL

    Typical mindset of the liberal who does nothing.
     
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    That is one of the canned comments of the typical pro-abortion supporter; claim good pro-lifers don't care about kids after birth.
     
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    Well, they don't....another thread just started with some Anti-Choicer whining about fathers having to support their children!

    Republicans, who say they're against abortion to get votes from Really Stupid people, constantly attempt to cut funding to programs aimed at aiding poor children ...programs like WIC and Headstart.

    Doesn't look like they care about children...
     
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    """"So you believe in the government FORCING you to do what it thinks is the best for you?"""

    YOU do. YOU want the government to make abortion illegal, telling women what to do.....

    even though you claimed that "NO ONE SHOULD FORCE ANYONE TO DO SOMTHING THEY DON'T WANT TO DO""""
     

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