Part 8 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. GraspingforPeace

    GraspingforPeace Well-Known Member

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    The word demand doesn't carry any threatening connotation. It is literally a synonym for command. Authorize doesn't even make sense in this context. God didn't give permission to Abraham.



    Surely you can point out some instance where this is true, then.

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    What does that have to do with you thinking the Higgs Boson was an atom?
     
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    Ah, now we know why you circle around answers, you enjoy opposing yourself. Although, I don't think you intentionally distort the bible. You just have a different mindset than real christians.
     
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    That is not the point, he continues to spread falsehoods.

    In direct contradiction to his past self-righteous holier than thou post.
     
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    It is the point of my question. if you find that a fault in others, do you then you fail, for whatever reason, find it a fault in yourself?
     
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    My avatar is better than your communist avatar.

    I guess you again refuse to admit you are using a different bible and you are trying to insert your false bible as the true Holy Bible.
     
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    I can't guess your answer if I guess wrong you'll say I am lying. Why are you afraid to say the truth?
    I have not yet started and you have not answer my question yet and you are already accusing me of lying?
     
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    Do you believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God and is God? If not why?

    It has everything to do with the Higgs boson was an atom or about science claim that man evolved from apes. If you can answer why you do not believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God or God then we will be able to establish our selves better, Wolverine has refuse to answer instead he kept on insisting I am lying maybe you can help out since I believe you too to do not believe Jesus Christ is God or Son of God?

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    so now you are saying you are a Christian? If so then why do you kept on distorting the Bible? let us make a simple test do you believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God or not? Do not lie or else you will be contradicting yourself.
     
  8. Mitt Ryan

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    Quote Posted by Akhlut on pg. 52 #512 of Part 3

    A theory is a predictive model based on observation, not a mere guess.
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    One of the definitions I find for the word theory is defined as 6) Popularly, a mere conjecture or guess.

    And so a theory is also a mere guess, so half of your statement is true.
     
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    Quote Posted by Akhlut on pg. 52 #512 of Part 3

    Humans are classified as apes, after all. Humans are just specific sorts of apes.
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    In your classification they are but the reality and the truth is humans are not animals, apes are animals, thus humans are not apes.

    God said, "Let the earth produce every sort of animal, each producing offspring of the same kind---livestock, small animals that scurry along the ground, and wild animals." Gen. 1:24 NLT

    Then God said, "Let us make human beings in our image, to be like ourselves. They will reign over the fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, the livestock, all the wild animals on the earth, and the small animals that scurry along the ground." Gen. 1:26 NLT
     
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    Quote Posted by AlphaOmega on pg. 52 #516 of Part 3

    If you put your hand on a hot stove it will get burned. This theory is proven by the fact that it happens everytime you do it.
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    Putting your bare hand on a hot stove will indeed get it burned everytime you do it and so it's not a theory but a fact.

    The theory of evolution is just that a theory, there is no indisputable conclusive evidence that it is a fact we humans are descendants of ape-like creatures.

    And so the theory of evolution has not been proven...and that's a fact!
     
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    no theory can ever be proved to be true, but the uneducated among us still dont know that. fact.
     
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    How did you reach that conclusion, I made no statement of any kind.

    I do? Where, when, how?

    I can not make an honest answer as I simply do not know. I did believe so once upon a time.
     
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    If you cannot make "an honest answer" then it would be safe to conclude that the answer you gave is a 'dishonest answer'.
     
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    No, because there is no good evidence that he was. I don't consider books written by his followers to be proof of anything, especially since they were written decades after his death and contain contradictory accounts of what he said or did. And really the only Gospel where Jesus appears to claim to be God is the Gospel of John. And even if I for some reason accepted into the dogma that Jesus was God, the whole theme of the Gospels where Jesus is set up to be a blood sacrifice is absolutely an absurd plan for an omnipotent deity to come up with. Not to mention that it is absurd for an omnipotent deity to save people from eternal damnation using a series of books.

    Now, what do you think a Higgs Boson is? I'll give you a hint, it isn't an atom.
     
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    And by "your" classification, you mean taxonomic classifications that have been put in place for over a hundred years.

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    Sure, if you want to be intellectually dishonest and use the definition for the word that isn't used in the context of what we are talking about.
     
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    Not at all.


    The answer - quote 'I can not make an honest answer as I simply do not know.' is, in fact an honest answer.
    A dishonest answer would be an answer that he himself did not really believe true.

    Posters on here keep giving their 'honest opinion' that the Bible is Gods Word. Many of us who have studied it over years see the problems with that point of view, and are of the 'honest opinion' that it is not so. In matters of religious belief it is ones' point of view as to what is 'honest' and what is not. For example - Does God exist or not. Not proveable in fact.
    In the matter of written texts that changes. These can be examined and often proven true or false. You can continue to believe and reject those things proven wrong, or accept whatever is revealed as error.
    That's where 'Faith' and 'facts' often differ. That's where 'honesty' becomes blurred.
     
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    who invited you back, lol
     
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    He is a christian. That is unfair to 99% of christians. sorry.
     
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    Sorry but you are wrong. Since God is omniscient, which is another way of saying He has infinite knowledge and knows everything there is to know.

    He could prove a theory to be true or not.

    So your statement, "no theory can ever be proved to be true, but the uneducated among us still dont know that. fact" is invalid and not a fact.
     
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    Absolutely.
     
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    Find a physicist that believes the Higgs Boson is an atom (LOL) and that humans are not apes (LOL), and we can start the discussion.
     
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    No, seriously. Or prove it. Irrefutably.
     
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