Part 11 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

i believe in God.
I believe Jesus Christ is the closet to God in human form one can be.the concept of God being human…is a concept…and I believe it to be true and that Jesus led a life ,as i have stated over and over,to show us a pure life.
and He left a message, and that message was not written down till well after His crucification…and that word has been used politically….the Devil is at play here…i will leave it at that...

 

How could it possibly not be the other way around as well? If something can also be called something else, then they are synonymous. That means they are interchangeable. To say that A=B, but then B is not equal to A is absurd.

Yes, because the word ape was never meant to describe black people, it is a word for a group of animals. Again, can we not use the word dinosaur or dog because those can be used in mean ways? You have yet to answer me.

Because you're afraid of hurting someone's feelings because at one point the word was used in a racist context by idiots? Grow up. Nobody else seems to have this issue, especially black people, besides you.

No, Noah's Flood was a flood that COVERED the globe. That isn't the same thing as saying global warming would cause major flooding in many parts of the world.

That isn't what the Bible says. Nor does it say that the children were trained to attack the Hebrews. You just make (*)(*)(*)(*) up.

 

Cool....debate THIS guy who said God DID know who will be saved and who wouldn't-

Originally Posted by WanRen --- "They were daughters and sons of bad and wicked people that were going to be train generation after generation to continue to slaughter the Hebrews that is why their generation has to be stop and the babies soul save in Heaven."

 

Seems from that comment and others....you don't really believe in God....you believe in the Bible. Idolatry.

Evidence for that would be a hypothetical.....if God appeared to you, burning bush, whatever...and told you something contradictory to the Bible....would you-

A. Accept what God told you and that the Bible was wrong?

B. Deny that it was God speaking to you, because He said the Bible was wrong?

 

The Bible was written by inspired prophets and later translated into English, Spanish, Mandarin, Japanese, Korean, Hindi, Arabic, Malay, Tagalog, etc. etc. no matter what language it is translated to the core essence remains the same it is an international or worldwide work of novelist around the world all communicating the same message God.

 

Just to let everyone know...I am still here and the waiting is making me crazy so I would suggest some members to tread lightly with me today as I am unusually cranky.

You are correct in your above post.

When I talk about the many translations and inaccuracies in the Bible it is for the purpose of showing some people that it is ridiculous to waste time memorizing every word in the Bible as those words have changed so many times it is insane.

The LESSONS are all that are important.

AboveAlpha

 

Doc....I have no problem with ANYONE pointing out something I posted that might be wrong as I would much rather be proven wrong and learn the FACTS than keep going on talking about something that is not a fact.

I have no ego as far as LEARNING SOMETHING from any person.

And there is no such thing as a stupid question there is only the stupidity of not asking a question about something you don't understand.

AboveAlpha

 

That's just your biased opinion which is not surprising being that you belong to the fraternity of non-believers.
Like I said previously in answering bruce's question, it's because of my faith in God, the belief I have for God.

Religion and science (physics) have something in common in that there is such a thing as absolute truth/universal truth.

There are indeed absolute realities and standards that define what is true and what is not. Therefore, actions can be determined to be either right or wrong by how they measure up to those absolute standards.

If there are no absolutes, no reality, chaos ensues. Take the law of gravity, for instance. If it were not an absolute, we could not be certain we could stand or sit in one place until we decided to move. Or if two plus two did not always equal four, the effects on civilization would be disastrous.

Laws of science and physics would be irrelevant, and commerce would be impossible. What a mess that would be! Thankfully, two plus two does equal four. There is absolute truth, and it can be found and understood.

If you are implying there are inconsistencies in the Bible, that is just an opinion based on the way you interpret Scripture. Your misinterpretations are the basis for your belief that the Bible has inconsistencies.

The actual reality is that the critics are ignoring the inconsistency of the way they interpret Scripture properly.

 

Religion has embraced archaeological findings. These findings authenticates the validity of the Bible.
In the last 150 years we have witnessed the birth, growth, and phenomenal development of the study of biblical archaeology. This fascinating study has furnished background material for illustrating, illuminating, and in many cases authenticating of the message and meaning of the Old and New Testament Scriptures.

Archaeology is an important science that confirms the historical accuracy of the Bible. Since the Bible makes reference to hundreds of cities, kings, and places, we would expect to find evidence from on-site excavations. If we did not find any such evidence, we would highly question the Bible's claim of inspiration and tend to view it as myth and folklore. We would regard the Bible as the product of human imagination rather than divinely inspired record about real historical events, about real people living in real cities.

At the turn of the century, skeptics viewed the Bible as myth rather than real world history. For example, the Bible makes over 40 references to the great Hittite Empire. You see, 100 years ago, no archaeological evidence had ever been found to prove it really did exist. "Just another Bible myth!" skeptics charged in an attempt to destroy our faith in the Bible. This, however, cannot be said today, for in 1906, Hugo Winckler uncovered a library of 10,000 clay tablets.

These ancient records fully documented the long lost Hittite Empire and confirmed the reliability of the Bible. Later excavations uncovered Boghazkoy, the capital city of this "mythical" empire.

These discoveries not only authenticate Scripture, but also illuminate many aspects of biblical culture. Abraham's purchase of Ephron's field record the following: "So Ephron's field, which was in Machpelah, which faced Mamre, the field and cave which was in it, and all the trees which were in the field, that were within all the confines of its border, were deeded over to Abraham for a possession in the presence of the sons of Heth." (Genesis 23:17), This reflects the standard Hittite real estate procedure of counting the trees involved in any purchase or sale of land. Note also that the witnesses to Abraham's purchase were the "son's of Heth" -i.e. the Hittites.

Today, so many Bible cities, names and events have been unearthed through archaeology that the Bible is considered the single most important historical document in existence. Many lost cities have been located using the Bible as a road map. So startling and impressive are some of the finds that one archaeologist was compelled to say, "They are digging up Bible stories!"

The shovel and spade have confirmed that the historical information of the Bible is both accurate and reliable.

 

Please be specific, your post is incoherent.

 

Mitt....you posted..."Religion and science (physics) have something in common in that there is such a thing as absolute truth/universal truth."...end quote Mitt.

Religion deals with TRUTHS.

Science is a METHOD to obtain FACTS....or as close to a Fact as can be possible.

Mathematics can be labeled as the one all uniting Universal Truth.

AboveAlpha

 

Logic appears to be one of the natural laws God put into place at the creation of the universe. Then, God created mankind with a mind and the ability to reason. Being a creation of God, logic is a good thing which, when used properly, can point us toward God. Unfortunately, it is easy to use logic incorrectly as do many non-believers.

 

Logic as it would apply to Moral decisions is SUBJECTIVE.

Logic as applied to decisions of Math and Science cannot be subjective....as Mathematics and Science will not allow it to be subjective.

But what is a perfectly LOGICAL conclusion and decided course of action for a person or a group from one culture or religion maybe considered COMPLETELY irrational and illogical bt another person or group from a different culture or religion.

AboveAlpha

 

Unlike mythology, the Bible has a historical framework. Its characters are real people living in verifiable locations during historical events. The Bible mentions Pilate, Sennacherib, Felix, Cyrus, Herod, Nebuchadnezzar, and many other historical figures.

Its history coincides with that of many nations, including the Egyptian, Hittite, Persian, Babylonian, and Roman empires. The events of the Bible take place in geographical areas such as Canaan, Syria, Egypt, Mesopotamia, and others. All this certifiable detail refutes the idea that the Bible is mere mythology.

Unlike mythology, the Bible has many confirmations in sciences such as biology, geology, astronomy, and archaeology. The field of biblical archaeology has absolutely exploded in the last century and a half, during which time hundreds of thousands of artifacts have been discovered.

So who is the one who is really dismissing reality?...I'd say the non-believers are the ones dismissing reality.

 

The Hominidae (/hɒˈmɪnɨdiː/; also known as great apes form a taxonomic family of primates, including four extant genera:
chimpanzees (Pan) – 2 species
gorillas (Gorilla) – 2 species
humans (Homo) – 1 species
orangutans (Pongo) – 2 species.[1]

Can you please show us your factual claim what this great ape look like???

I admit it many times me and my kind are not apes and did not evolved from apes. Why must you insist that all humans are your kind?? Are you insisting that all humans are white too?? Just like you demanding all thread members agree with your fallacy and you pretend to speak for everyone I have no problem with your free choice to claim that you and your kind are apes but do not include me and my kind. Why don't you admit that I HAVE NO PROBLEM THAT YOU ARE AN APE! There are you happy.

 

I love how you like some science but not carbon dating. Carbon dating proves many claims in the bible false. There is no question. I am merely stating that carbon dating is fact and has been independently verified for over half a century.

 

Don't the TOS of the site say you need to source your copy and pastes?

 

I will have no problem accepting your facts if they were true. I can not in good conscience accept your false facts.

Every Christian sects including the Pope accept and believe that God created humans (or I must emphasis now humans such as me and my kind not your kind) while the other group or kind of humans claim they evolved from apes Christians accept that theory and teaches that in all Christian schools and Universities as part of education.

Pope John also teaches that humans were created in the image of God not ape and the evolution theory is a theory not fact. Amazing how you cherry pick the Holy Father's position to feed your own agenda.

Therefore the Bible is a Holy Book that atheist and anti Christians should respect and learn from and not to try to ripe it or tear it or corrupt it.

 

So you've seen this image of God and know what it looks like.

 

Your....KIND....as you keep referring to yourself and those like you are all HOMO SAPIENS....or a Human.

Humans (variously Homo sapiens and Homo sapiens sapiens) are primates of the family Hominidae,

The human lineage diverged from the last common ancestor with its closest living relative, the chimpanzee, some five million years ago, evolving into the australopithecines and eventually the genus Homo.[4] The first Homo species to move out of Africa was Homo erectus, the African variety of which, together with Homo heidelbergensis, is considered to be the immediate ancestor of modern humans.[5][6] Homo sapiens originated in Africa, where it reached anatomical modernity about 200,000 years ago and began to exhibit full behavioral modernity around 50,000 years ago.[7] Homo sapiens proceeded to colonize the continents, arriving in Eurasia 125,000–60,000 years ago,[8][9] Australia around 40,000 years ago, the Americas around 15,000 years ago, and remote islands such as Hawaii, Easter Island, Madagascar, and New Zealand between the years AD 300 and 1280

LINK...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human

Homo Sapiens are Hominidae....which means GREAT APES.

YOU...are an APE....and so is every Human.

Get over it!

AboveAlpha

 

Why should I?...you're only going to deny it...lol

Besides where have I stated that everything that is posted by me on my threads will be proven? In the perspective of believers, there are no errors in the Holy Bible and so we believers can trust everything in the Holy Bible.

I don't care if you non-believers don't accept what we believers accept.

And lastly you know it's silly to play the "P" game...lol but yet despite that you still play it...I guess you're just a silly kind of guy...eh?...lol

 

The Bible is only contradictory to those who lack or refuse to understand the Bible the way it is for all its worth instead these individuals are dedicated to twist everything in the Bible to make it appear to be full of inaccuracies and when they were proven to be wrong they shout and yell like crazies or they go cranky.

Still refuse to admit that there are other humans that are not ape. Well, I will repeat YES YOU ARE AN APE ME AND MY KIND ARE NOT and again you failed to provide any link to show your claim who this great ape is. And I am not a white man.
Who and what this great ape look like? We know what gorillas, chimps, humans look like so what does this great ape look like????

 

It really is amazing for anyone to watch you post ridiculous claims as well as state that the posts of others who have provided links and proofs are all falsehoods and lies.

Now if you read my post #595 on this topic you will see details of the evolution of Humanity....and how human lineage diverged from the last common ancestor with its closest living relative, the chimpanzee, some five million years ago, evolving into the australopithecines and eventually the genus Homo.

And just because a person might talk about certain facts about how the Bible both New and Old Testament was created and how over the centuries mistranslations and words have changed....does not mean they are attempting to rip apart a persons faith.

Exactly at what point did FACTS become the enemy of Christianity?

AboveAlpha

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Provide PROOF in the form of a link to a source that you are not an ape.

AboveAlpha

 

Exactly cupid! comprehensively but for some that would be impossible being that a lot of non-believers have comprehension issues...it's an affliction a condition that is known as...misinterprelitus!

 

Just want it shown that you don't post facts, just your opinion.
And you really can't confirm anything you post without circular logic.
Thanks for playing, have a nice day. eh!