Part 17 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. Incorporeal

    Incorporeal Well-Known Member

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    Do you have statistics to validate your claim?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creationism
     
  3. Incorporeal

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    "As of 2006 most Christians around the world accepted evolution as the most likely explanation for the origins of species, and did not take a literal view of the Genesis creation narrative. The US is an exception where belief in religious fundamentalism is much more likely to affect attitudes towards evolution than it is for believers elsewhere. Political partisanship affecting religious belief may be a factor because political partisanship in the US is highly correlated with fundamentalist thinking, unlike in Europe.[SUP][84] "

    The Genesis creation narrative did not include the Great flood. The creation narrative ended in Chapter 2 of Genesis and the Great flood came about much later. Please keep the facts as reported by the 'Bible' straight.[/SUP]
     
  4. danielpalos

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    I believe the religious should have to pass a little morals test regarding Faith in executing a federal Doctrine and State laws regarding employment at will.
     
  5. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you figure those that believe in evolution and not "young earth creationism" believe in the ark story.

    That is funny. :wall:
     
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    No! Giftedone... those are your words.. Please quit trying to put what I said in words that I did not say.
     
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    Why does God require women to be pregnant when he can just create as many of us as he wants to?

    Is he trying to conserve energy?

    Why would he want to conserve energy if he has a completely limitless source for being, you know, omnipotent?
     
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    It is what you implied. You asked for stats and I gave you stats that show that the majority of Christians do not believe in "young earth creationism"

    Clearly these people do not believe in the ark story. You retorted with some nonsense about Genesis 1 (creation) being separate from Genesis 2.

    If you were not implying that these people believed in the Ark Story then what were you implying ?
     
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    No! That is merely your interpretation of what I said. Be a little more intellectually honest.

    Wrong again. I stated that the Creation story ended with chapter 2 of Genesis.

    IF there was an implication, then the implication might be that you used a faulty interpretation of what you read.
     
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    If you do not want to make clear what you were trying to say then quit speaking.
     
  11. Incorporeal

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    If all you want to do is make faulty interpretations, then quit writing.
     
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    My interpretation was not faulty. You just do not understand the implications of your own words.
     
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    Human's ARE Apes topic changer!!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Implications that are dependent upon your interpretation. You fail again.
     
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    Yep/

    People are just so involved in ham to ham combat.

    being right is serious business in America.
     
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    What is really pathetic here is when a member posts some viable proof that might counter what another member is stating....such ACTUAL IN REALITY PROOF...is mocked and dismissed.

    But when the shoe is on the other foot....those of us who are rationally logical will admit when another members post has merit.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    You have not offered an alternative interpretation so the failure is yours.
     
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    Why should I offer an alternative wording of what I stated? I wrote what I intended to write .
     
  19. Mitt Ryan

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    First off, werewolves, leprechauns, Zeus, Thor, Kali, Amaterasu, the Rainbow Serpent are all understood by most as being fictional characters.

    If people make the claim they are for real, believe me I won't ask them for proof because I don't care about those ficticious characters.

    Now if you demand proof concerning Almighty God, I'm sorry to say I can't give it to you. This thread that I started is not about proving anything, it's about answering questions concerning the Christian faith. (God/Jesus/Holy Bible)

    Furthermore as I mentioned at the beginning of the thread I am not here to convert anyone so it's not like I want you to believe, believing is all up to an individual.

    You say you want evidence and believe me there are lots of evidence but of course it is not good enough for you so you deny them.

    Believe me you will not get the evidence you seek that will be the ultimate proof. God is not going to come visit you one night to prove to you He is for real.

    After all of the billions upon billions of people who ever lived on this earth why would He come visit you just to prove to you He is for real?

    People come to believe in Him through faith not proof.
     
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    So you're refusing to answer tough questions, as advertised? If what we want above all else is evidence (proof), why do you refuse to give it?

    And you're also saying that, given the billions and billions who've lived, your god is as likely to visit as one of those 'fictional' gods you mentioned up top?
     
  21. Mitt Ryan

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    >>>MOD EDIT: INSULT<<<< The God of Abraham is Jesus Christ as WanRen noted from the Christian point of view.

    The Muslims don't believe that Jesus Christ is God, therefore their God of Abraham is not the same as the Christian God of Abraham and so in the Christian perspective the Muslim God is a false god.

    We, Christians believe we are worshipping God in the right way and Muslims believe they are worshipping God in the right way, only one religion is right and the other is wrong.

    You might ask who is right then?...to be fair to both sides the answer is only God knows.
     
  22. Mitt Ryan

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    You don't realize it but he is proving his existence through people like you....he blinds the minds of unbelievers.

    Are you going through life with "tunnel vision"? Open your eyes and take a 360 degree look of what is going on around you.

    Just don't be a critic of the Holy Bible but open it up and start reading it with an open mind. Read Scripture that describes Satan and the work that he does. For he is busy at work on a daily basis proving his existence.
     
  23. Mitt Ryan

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    That is a question that only God could ever answer since He is the Creator, sure we have these scientists telling us what they think but their answers are based on theories, speculation, guesswork.

    And since no human being is omniscient, we will never know precisely how old the earth is.
     
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    Incorporeal, so you agree the jews and muslims don't have the God of abraham as their God.
    Yet you don't think Jesus is God. You don't believe the trinity. Which would make your God more closely resemble the jewish and muslim God of abraham. Or is your God not the God of abraham.
    So you seem to be all over the map. It's like you have a split personality in your beliefs. As you have stated many times, Jesus is not God.
     
  25. Mitt Ryan

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    Nope...sorry but you're wrong. The doctor (Dr. Luke) has proven himself to be a reliable historian, as demonstrated by famed scholar and archaeologist, Sir William Ramsey.

    The census that Luke was referring to was taken around 4-5 BC about the time of the birth of Jesus.

    Scholars have accepted Luke's record of this census (and therefore the Bible) to continue to be regarded as 100% trustworthy.

    And so I have no idea where you come up with this 74 CE census. Have you been visiting an atheist website or what?
     
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