Part 20 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. Prunepicker

    Prunepicker Well-Known Member

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    And more so that they had little or no knowledge of what Christianity was.
    Their actions showed it.
     
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    Piety does tend to come off as smugness. I suspect that this is due to their commonality of essence. In either case, the condition being described is one of knowing better than your peers, and of acting accordingly without bothering to justify your views (indeed, without even feeling a need to do so). One word that comes to mind here is arrogance, which makes the claim to humility quite comical. I see nothing humble about a Christian's position. Especially not a "pious" one.

    Have you ever had to deal with someone of this type who does not happen to share your beliefs? Perhaps doing so, or reflecting upon having done so, will shed some light on this particular issue for you.
     
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    I'm sure you're aware, Incorporeal, that comfort seeking is an effect of the ego? in adulthood it's actually more akin to the seeking of validation - the desire to know that you matter.
     
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    Witch burnings lasted from the 12th century thru the 17th century in Christian Europe... and took the lives of tens of thousands. Are you saying that they had Christianity all wrong for 500 years?
     
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    According to many christians. If other christians are not like them, then they are not chirstians. If a christian commits a crime, they are not christian.
     
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    Slavery was considered Christian as was the eradication of the American Indian and the Bison..
     
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    Wrong. Proof = argument or evidence that compels the mind to accept the assertion as true. As seen in that definition, the evidence or argument has to be present before the (mindset) proof can be gotten. That PROOF is up to the individual who is analyzing the evidence or argument as to whether or not the evidence or argument can amount to 'proof'.
     
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    Sorry to disappoint you, but you taught me nothing, and unfortunately I seemingly could not teach you the same meaning between "seems to be" and "appears to be". My choice of grammar and your choice, each having the same meaning. So go to your little fairy land world and laugh at yourself.
     
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    What does this have to do with faith and hope? If you have proof, there is no faith needed.
     
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    In one sense of the word you are right and then again you are still wrong. In the sense that you are right, the faith provided the proof... In the sense that you are wrong... the hope provides a need for a future use of faith to provide the future proof. Think things out
     
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    No. You'd still be wrong. Both are a belief in something without proof. Faith is not proof. Faith is sure you are correct without proof. Hope is not knowing you are correct without proof.
    As I said, there is no proof involved with either. It is a mindset difference only. Faith may be more detrimental as one would think they are absolutely correct and no need for further investigation. Hope is thinking things will be as they want with no idea of knowing if it is correct.
     
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    Just like some believe and trust in the scientific method, when it is known that the scientific method is based upon assumptions ... assumptions being "without proof". So now really, what point are you trying to make? That the belief of those who lean on one tool without proof is better than another tool without proof? Beliefs are a witch aren't they?
     
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    Indeed Palestinians were offered a State a State much larger than what is now Israel and they refused and the reason they refused is because as Muslim they allied with all Muslims nations specially those in the Middle East to destroy and wipe Israel off they don't want a single Israeli State no matter how tiny it is thanks to Christian nations they came to protect and support Israel.
    Unfortunately not only are the Gazans cry babies they are offering their babies to die for their misplaced cause and demands :(
     
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    Are you jealous?
     
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    Of course you don't know because you refused to understand even after I told you where it is and now you are lying by claiming I did not told you in fact you flip flop about your heaven from there and here to none existence.
    Now you understand that no way you can be the real winner you can be an imaginary winner but not a real winner.
     
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    1692 at a time when they were enforcing their own laws base on their fanatic views with the absence of US Constitution.
    Yes it was a local incident that other colonies does not support including French North America the French that has established good relationship with none Christian natives yes Natives First Nation people that under the Salem scenario would have been guilty of being witches.
    Today such Salem type of persecution still exist mostly in Muslim nations that is why thousands of Christians and none Christians are fleeing northern Iraq.
     
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    Today we still have many caveman brains that is why they fear Christians others even if God would offer them to stay in Heaven they will still from their own free will reject it just because it is God of Christianity :(
     
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    Witch burnings in Iraq??????????????
     
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    Piety = dutiful respect or regard for parents, homeland.
    Smugness = having or showing the annoying quality of people who feel very pleased or satisfied with their abilities, achievements
    Huge difference smugness is being arrogant. Pius is being unselfish.
    Christian position is a great example of humility and piousness Christians will be willing to step up to help others regardless of their religion, gender or social status.
    I have many times met and had to deal with individuals who not only does not share my beliefs, my social status and my ethnic background in fact I am consider a minority that have experience the 1960's -1970's racial discrimination never mind religious belief ethnicity will always be the first target because of these experiences I have grown to become more resolute and confident in God " In God We Trust".
     
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    Yes. What did they do that was Christian? Seriously. Can you find
    anything in the New Testament that says Jesus would approve of that?
     
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    Wow!!! you are really out of touch you are telling me you don't know what is happening in Iraq? Don't you know thousands of Iraqi Christians and Iraqi Yazidis are being murdered just because they are Christians and Yazidis and you don't consider this horrific and dare to to pretend you don't know what Salem scenario in Iraq is referring too???? And dare to raise the question witch burning in Iraq???????????????? with that many question marks!!! I sincerely hope you are not serious.
    I will spell it out to you; the ISIS are the witch hunters much worse than the Salem witch trials because in the Salem case at least the accused witches were given some form of trial plus the Salem incident happened in 1692 while the Christians and Yaizdis were just being rounded up and murdered just because they are Christians and Yazidis and it is happening today present day murder and persecution being committed by large number of certain group of Muslims that have been doing that since 680 AD.
     
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    ISIS is also killing Muslims....
     
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    This has nothing to do with witchcraft. If anything it's the Crusades in reverse.
     
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    Nineveh is on the banks of the Tigris. This is where Jonah must have been thrown up for the inhabitants of Nineveh to believe he was Oannes.

    Oannes (Uan) was the name given to a Mesopotamian sage Adapa (one of seven mythical beings) by :)ooops:forgotten who). He appeared out of the sea daily to teach mankind. Adapa is known from the 14th century BCE.
     
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    Sorry, Wanny, I wasnt here when you explained where hell is, so could you give those coordinates again? Could you be very specific, please. I know this won't be a problem for you, as you're so very certain of its existence. And being such a discerning fellow, and eager to live honestly (as god intended), I know you wouldn't go around making such bald faced claims about a thing you know nothing about. So yeah, thanks in advance. Don't forget, be very specific!
     
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