Part 20 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Heaven doesn't require passwords wan, your version of heaven is wrong.
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh your version of local means anything larger than a hemisphere. No it was not a "local" incident, in fact it was one of first crushing blows to Christianity. This was one case of many illustrations of how religion if allowed to be unchecked gets out of control because of the laughable humans who fear the devil.
    Why doesn't god help the Christians stay in Iraq? If what you say is true and God exists, it looks like God likes the muslims more than Christians for sure. Based on the evil acts listed in the bible, flooding the earth, asking Abraham to kill his son as well as priest raping boys at epic rates its no wonder he is siding with the muslims. Perhaps you could elaborate on why that religion is wrong but yours isn't? Muslims have the same evidence of god as you which is nothing.
     
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    For the other readers,..(and this is hilarious) Wanrens response to the question "where is heaven located exactly?" was...... heaven is located exactly where heaven is. Even funnier he doesn't see whats wrong with the response.
    Another one says its all around you in any direction, but then when I asked if that's true, then where is hell located,......blank stares and drool on that response.
    Oh also wan says heaven is also a sphere but couldn't tell me where in the bible it says that. He also says its in the spiritual world, and yep you guessed it....you know where the spiritual world is located? ......In the spiritual world.
     
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    LOL still digging eh? Be certain in this. I don't care what you attempt to get others to think by your back pedaling "seems" deflection. Its incoherent gibberish.
    To the other readers, the day before yesterday he pondered why the other stars "seemed" to orbit Polaris. Then I gave him a science lesson and he started posting bizarre comments about the word "seems".
    Maybe later we can talk a little bit about the orbits of the planets. The bible had that all wrong so I think its on topic to set that straight as well.
     
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    It is likely (if not absolute), that the VAST majority of PF membership that has in any way interacted with this individual are well aware of the limited intellectual prowess displayed, as well as the tendency to either avoid accepting it's own ignorance through switching the subject, or typing new gibberish that forces one to either leave the thread in frustration or simply place it on ignore.

    Were it not for the "Accident on the Freeway" effect, and the entertainment provided by a court jester persona....it would probably have nothing to type at.
     
  6. WanRen

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    Finally you are aware of the atrocities of the Islamist that has been ongoing since 680 AD when Mohammed issue an edict to destroy all those who refused to submit to them and that edict has not been rescinded since then not by any Imam or Muslim leadership.

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    Don't get mixed up it is not a crusade it is jihadist!
    It has everything to do with witchcraft those Jihadist consider none Muslims as infidels and devil worshipers and they treat all those who refused to submit to them and convert as demons that need to be slaughter without any trials that draft the Salem witch trial in which in the Salem case those accused were tried and centuries later when it was learn that it was wrong to have allow that to happen the community change unlike the jihadist they never change since 680 AD and this is just another clear example of how anti Christian cherry pick incidents from historical records that were kept by Christians to use it against Christians in order to serve their personal agenda. Other historical archived by the church that anti Christians like to cherry pick and misused it to serve their agenda are: The Inquisition, the Crusade and Galileo it would seem anti Christian history is limited to selective few if they can be so selective and limited what does this say about their view on science?
     
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    Do you believe there is life after death?
    Do you believe there is a heaven or hell?
    Those questions are very important because as you said live honestly if you do believe then I would like to know where your heaven and hell is too? if you don't then at least I know you are being honest unlike others who claim they know where their heaven is and then later said it does not exist.
    So now to answer your question base on Christian prospective Heaven and Hell are located not in this world "My Kingdom is not of this world" John 18:36 Again I am answering your question base on Christian prospective Heaven is in the spirit world or another dimension or sphere the exact coordinates at present man has not yet develop the instrument to locate the exact location of Heaven or Hell just like man has not yet fully understand this planet or how far the God-particle goes at the same time Christian scientist have already established the exact location of Heaven and Hell it is reachable through meditation or sometime it is called enlightenment the specific location is in the Spirit World.

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    The real Heaven does not require any password. Does your heaven require a password?
     
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    It has nothing to do with Christianity it has to do with locals who are imposing their own laws. This case illustrate how illiteracy lack of knowledge about God and truth can be misused that is how barbarians states become civilized thanks to Christian teachings. And that is how atheist communist were defeated thanks to Christianity.
    Christians are already helping Iraqis in combat, relief aid, immigration and education and Christians are doing all this base on God's guidance that we are all His children. The only people that would seem to be siding with the Jihadist are those who criticized Christians for getting involved and want Christians not to get involved to allow those jihadist to massacre God's children.
    Christianity is not wrong because it is on God's side about humanity, about goodness, about peace and living in peace with all.
    Jihadist is wrong because it is very clear that thay do not value human life, they murder at their will, they have no sense of civil liberty, they respect no one.
    Are you telling me that Jihadist is right and that those Iraqis deserve to be slaughtered????? Please tell me you don't mean that??
    After that maybe you can share which one do you prefer the ISIS Jihadist or Christianity that are helping to defend the Yaziris, Christians and other Iraqi minorities?
     
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    No stretch at all....same principle as "The Bible proves that the Bible is true".

    Unless the author of a book SPECIFICALLY says "This is a work of fiction"....by that same standard, we must accept that ANY book, even ones "seemingly" ficticious are in fact "true stories"....same as the Bible.

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    You have a very handy rationalization, don't you?

    If a Christian person does something good, it "proves Christians are on God's side."

    If a Christian person does something evil, you claim "They were never a real Christian"...not even members of the Christian clergy or leadership.

    Right?

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    Yes it does. It requires to you say "I repent of my sins and accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior".

    Not as lyrical as some secret passwords....but still what you have to say to get in the Golden Door of Good Fellowship. (ref: The Andy Griffith Show)
     
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    I guess they must have missed your claim that you have your own heaven and hell and that you are the ruler of it with by laws and that it is none existence and that you are not an atheist, hum serious contradictions.
    Yes I said Heaven is in the spirit world, in another sphere and in another dimension that is where the Real Heaven and Hell is.
     
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    What a load of tripe you talk. People have known about Islamic intentions and actions for many centuries. For you to say 'Finally you are aware..' is just nonsense.

    Jihad 'war or struggle against unbelievers'.
    Crusade 'a vigorous campaign for political, social, or religious change The difference is only in the eyes of the different combatants.

    As in the middle east today each side 2 intransigent sides insisting they are in the right, while most of the world looks on wondering why they can't settle things with a compromise solution.
     
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    Fortunately we have been very successful in answering all the tough questions about Christianity and setting historical records right at the same time exposing the many misconception, false claims and distortions being presented by anti Christians on science, history, politics and religion.
     
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    Is Purgatory a real place or something non-Biblical that doesn't exist?

    You say the first, MittRyan says the latter. Who is right?
     
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    I think not....neither of you have answered the many questions asked in these threads with anything other than opinion and imaginative manipulation of language. I most certainly understand the reason for this, as you are in a very difficult position when asked to provide data on the intangible...but, this does not excuse the pretention that either of you are helping to answer the mysteries of your religion.

    If I have somehow missed an actual answer to the "Tough Questions", please point this out and correct my perception.
     
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    To the other readers. Notice how he merely restates his claim but offers no proof of claim. Before you move on to set other matters straight, why don't you try getting this one straight first. You are failing miserably.
     
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    Were it not for the fact that you and your peers have not been able to provide a definition for the terms "objective reality" and "truth" in a manner that is not ambiguous and is irrefutable, then the readers might be able to take you serious. Were it not for the fact that you and others cannot refute the claim that the scientific method is based on bald assumptions, then you might have something to argue. However you cannot make such a refutation that would amount to proof.
     
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    At the highlighted text: Are you suggesting that you have provided data or can provide data on the intangible?
     
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    To other readers, count the number of times you have gotten a direct answer from Incorporeal to a direct question.
    :)
     
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    Too lazy to count them yourself and so you desire to push the task off on others?
     
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    There is nothing to refute. Polaris is not the center of the universe. I already taught you this and even gave you a scientific experiment you could do to verify it. After that you started posting schizophrenic word salad as always.
     
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    You have taught me nothing regarding Polaris. You actually might want to go back to that original posting of mine regarding Polaris and re-read it. Now you stoop to the slime pit of character assassination by making innuendos that you cannot support with valid empirical and scientific data. Truly disingenuous comment on your part.
     
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    Same play you made, Incorporeal. Though I know how much you hate your own tactics used against you.
     
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    No. Just the opposite. Belief, hope, faith, are the same. The mindset of the person is the only difference.
     
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    Wrong again. I did not require anyone to do any counting. Be a little more intellectually honest.
     
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    Alpha, I'm sure to Incorporeal..... Polaris isn't the center of the Universe......he is. :)

    But remember, no science, fact, data, logic, etc. that Incorporeal is shown is actually "real"...unless HE believes it to be real. Nothing is true in the Universe, unless he believes it to be true.
     
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