Part 23 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. dairyair

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    Nope, Alpha has been posting recently. Not as much but still around.
     
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    thoughtfully. That is funny stuff right there.
     
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    And I told you that there are people - non-jews - who have the same genetics.
     
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    Perhaps someone took Aarons DNA while he was alive and it was kept in the Ark. Oooops. But the Ark disappeared. Another theory down the drain. :wink:
     
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    I suppose you can provide the Data?

    I find is extremely unlikely if not genetically impossible...I would very much like to see the study.
     
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    This is amazing. No-one knows when Moses and Aaron existed - and I don't accept they ever did - and yet you can give us an exact date.
     
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    Ah. Now we have the real Gospel. Hypnosis, mesmerisation and deceit by the Disciple Matthew who tells us they only had 5 loaves and 2 fishes.

    The problem is that by no means everyone can be hypnotised, mesmerised or fooled.
    And they don't use mesmerisation in the Pentecostal churches.
     
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    No, there are obviously TWO "WanRens"....

    one says there is NO mention of Barabbas being called a rapist in the Bible....

    the other says that Barabbas is clearly called a rapist in the Bible.

    If you are ONE person....you are suffering from what's commonly known as "multiple personality disorder".
     
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    dave, what about all the people who ALSO share a common ancestor 3360 years ago? Or do you think Jews never inter-married (or inter-bred) with Christians (from Greece to Norway, Portugal to Siberia)

    or even Muslims or even Hindus or Chinese Confucians or Japanese Shintoist?
     
  10. Mitt Ryan

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    At least? Can't you say exactly how old? Like when someone ask you how old you are, you definitely know exactly how old you are.
    So again you are just spewing out a theory, a speculation, a guess and so it has no validity.
     
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    Sorry but you don't know for sure they are millions of years old...again it's a theory.
     
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    Oops... Is he claiming Jesus was a magic act?
     
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    Well, Mitt take geology 101..

    That part of the world has been thoroughly explored by well trained, reputable geologists looking for oil and they have never been able to jam it into your young earth scenario where mountains appeared in the past 10,000 years or the whole earth was flooded.

    The Blueridge mountains are very, very old... hundreds of millions older than the Alps or the Rockie mountains.

    Heck there was once and inland sea down thru the middle of the US corresponding to the Mississippi River basin. You know back when the Great Lakes were gouged out by glaciers.

    Look up Niobrara Formation or Niobrara Sea.. that was 65 million years ago.
     
  14. Mitt Ryan

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    Well there are all sorts of theories of how the dinosaurs disappeared and so obviously we just don't know for sure how they disappeared just like how we don't know for sure how old are the mountains.

    Remnant?...a left over, remainder, a residue?...lol Are you trying to say birds evolved from dinosaurs?...if you are that's just a theory.

    Here's what Scripture tells us,

    "Then God said, “Let the waters swarm with fish and other life. Let the skies be filled with birds of every kind.” So God created great sea creatures and every living thing that scurries and swarms in the water, and every sort of bird—each producing offspring of the same kind. And God saw that it was good. Then God blessed them, saying, “Be fruitful and multiply. Let the fish fill the seas, and let the birds multiply on the earth.” And evening passed and morning came, marking the fifth day."---Genesis 1:20-23 NLT
     
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    Thus the core of this issue with you...scientific truths are dismissed because you do not like them.

    There is no point in debating with you, as fact can be considered fiction on both sides.
     
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    They are sure about birds and now they have found dinosaur fossils that indicate that dinosaurs laid lots of eggs and had feathers... plus there is their bone structure.

    Did you look up the 65 million year old Niobrara Formation, or did you conveniently skip that post???
     
  17. Mitt Ryan

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    Dinosaurs did exist that is not a theory, we have the evidence to prove it. What's the matter they didn't teach you this in grade school?...lol
    What's a theory concerning dinosaurs is how they went extinct and when they went extinct.

    Not quite true. Again let me bring up a previous post from me.

     
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    This has to be the most silliest post I've seen you post so far...do you agree with me? Or are you going to do what you do best...be in denial?...lol :peace:
     
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    Most serious scholars and paleontologists think the tanniyn were Nile crocodiles .. The still grow to over 22 feet.
     
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    That matter is resolved with this evidence from the Jewish priests, i.e.; sons of Aaron, dating back to 1360BC.
    Exodus tells us that the sons of Aaron would forever be the priests thereafter.

    So the Genetic Tests also tell us the actual date of Exodus,... i.e Torah.
     
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    Of course He wasn't involved. Neither was the Father, nor the Holy Spirit. Man has a really bad habit of killing, then saying god told them to do it. It is the oldest evil tactic ever devised by man.

    What Christ tried to do was to come and set things right, tell the truth of the matter, and destroy Judaism, not by violence, but by thinking, using some logic, reason and compassion. And by understanding that the real kingdom lies within consciousness, once the ego gets out of the way. The simplicity of this was of course complicated, distorted, corrupted, and Christianity became just like Judaism, and later on islam became just like those two earlier corruptions.

    Christ tried to teach us that you can determine what sort of tree it is, good or evil, by the fruits it produces. What fruits did Judaism, Christianity and islam produce? We know how evil these religions were, and are. No one really listens to Christ, what he taught, but to what men said about him. And how man interpreted what he said, to their own evil benefit.
     
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    The tests are now so famous that Jews line up to test themselves.

    HOW IT WORKS
    A genetic marker is a variation in the nucleotide sequence of the DNA, known as a mutation.
    Mutations which occur within genes -- a part of the DNA which codes for a protein -- usually cause a malfunction or disease and is lost due to selection in succeeding generations.
    However, mutations found in so-called "non-coding regions" of the DNA tend to persist.
    Since the Y chromosome consists almost entirely of non-coding DNA (except for the genes determining maleness), it would tend to accumulate mutations.

    Since it is passed from father to son without recombination, the genetic information on a Y chromosome of a man living today is basically the same as that of his ancient male ancestors, except for the rare mutations that occur along the hereditary line.
    A combination of these neutral mutations, known as a haplotype, can serve as a genetic signature of a man's male ancestry.

    (Maternal genealogies are also being studied by means of the m-DNA (mitrocondrial DNA), which is inherited only from the mother.)

    In the first study, as reported in the prestigious British science journal, Nature (January 2, 1997), 188 Jewish males were asked to contribute some cheek cells from which their DNA was extracted for study. Participants from Israel, England and North America were asked to identify whether they were a Cohen, Levi or Israelite, and to identify their family background.
    The results of the analysis of the Y chromosome markers of the Cohanim and non-Cohanim were indeed significant. A particular marker, (YAP-) was detected in 98.5 percent of the Cohanim, and in a significantly lower percentage of non-Cohanim.

    Date calculations based on the mutations yield a time frame for the Cohen line of some 3,300 years!
    Professor Hammer's findings are consistent -- over 80 percent of self-identified Cohanim have a common set of markers.

    AMAZING STATISTICS
    Calculations based on the high rate of genetic similarity of today's Cohanim resulted in the highest "paternity-certainty" rate ever recorded in population genetics studies -- a scientific testimony to family faithfulness.
    Stated Dr. David Goldstein of Oxford University:

    "For more than 90 percent of the Cohens to share the same genetic markers after such a period of time is a testament to the devotion of the wives of the Cohens over the years. Even a low rate of infidelity would have dramatically lowered the percentage."
    [Science News, October 3, 1998]

    http://www.aish.com/ci/sam/48936742.html
     
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    He got mad after I showed him evidence that an Observer HAD to collapse the first Wave Functions of the Big Bang or there would not have been a Big Bang.
    So I think he left,... mad at being educated.

    People hate the Truth.
     
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    Nah,...

    God definitely kills people, all of us,... really.
    And He did make Neanderthal man extinct on purpose because he was Gay and sexually promiscuous.

    Christ is The Truth about that too, so he warns us to stop being Neanderthals.
     
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    How do you know for sure the stories in the Holy Bible are fairy tales? It's just an opinion/belief that you have because you don't believe in Almighty God the Creator!

    An all powerful God has the ability to do miraculous things, after all He created the universe and all living beings.

    We mere mortals have the ability to create but not on the scale our Creator Almighty God has.

    Since the Holy Bible is the Word of God and God is perfectly Holy and never lies then everything He has told us in Scripture is the truth and nothing but the truth!

    Well you got it part right, the Holy Bible is certainly not a scientific book but it is definitely a Historical book.

    The five books that make up the Pentateuch are generally considered to be historical books because they record historical events. Then there are other historical books besides the first 5 in the Bible.

    There are also Poetical Books or Wisdom Books (didactic literature) these are the books of Job, Psalms, Proverbs, and the Song of Solomon (or Song of Songs).

    That's true. God wants us to come to Him through our faith in Him!
     
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