Part 27 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Everyone knows that Ethiopia, Assyria, Persia, and Arabia were flooded to the gills by Noah's flood. And the Garden of Eden with Adam & Eve were just down the road from them until it got flooded out. The Bible says so!
     
  2. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    It is very clear that I am talking about the Amalekites not sure why you would be changing the topic. I am sure you have no reading disability?


    To claim that the Israelite were like ISIS is clearly indication of twisted thinking. The ancient Israelite were always the target of oppression with threats of being exterminated by the Amalekites, Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Romans, Nazi Germany and now by ISIS. The ancient threat that the Israelite faced thousand of years ago continues today.

    Your claim not mine (justifying killing babies in the name of God). And your attack against God and the people that are standing up against today's Amalekites the ISIS, theTaliban, the Hamas, the Al Qaeda, the Boko Haram are clear evidence why today's Christian-secular government had to make tough decisions against them just like back then God had to assist the Israelite to make tough decisions against existential threat from the Amalekites.


    You are the one who said it not I insisting that God killed innocent babies when clearly the Amalekites were evil just like today's ISIS.

    You're the one that insist the Amalekites should be allowed to destroy the Hebrews.

    Did I ever said or claim babies should be randomly in the name of God on the basis that they are children of Satan? if not I then who?
     
  3. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Don't forget about that million man army from Ethiopia that attacked Mareshah.
     
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    Blaming others for your delusion again ? The topic is baby killing by the Israelites. The Israelites killed babies in the name of God.

    In some cases these were Amalekite babies and in other cases it was not such as the townspeople of King Sihon.

    Why do you think was ok for God to command the Israelites to kill children and babies ?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nothing twisted about it. ISIS kills in the name of God as did the Israelites. Same justification, same rational.

    Your justification for killing is not different than extremist Islam. Both you and the other extremists demonize those you want to kill calling them "evil" in the eyes of God.

    You have even tried to justify the killing of babies on this basis. Now if you want to talk about twisted, that would be it !
     
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    Many times you have tried to justify killing babies because you said these babies were evil due to their parents.

    Fact: The Bible says that the Israelites killed babies because God told them to.
    Fact: Numerous times you have defended the actions of the Israelites

    Fact: You defend baby killing in the name of God by the Israelites

    I laugh in your general direction as you run and hide from your own words.


    You call killing children and babies "God assisting the Israelites to make tough decisions"

    Just above you deny that God was the justification the Israelites gave for killing babies . Make up your mind??

    Which is it ? Was God the justification the Israelites gave for killing babies or not ?

    You desperation is getting the best of you.
     
  7. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. If anyone wants to know what it was like coping with the looney Moses and his henchmen all he has to do is look at the ISIS fanatics of today. They are identical. But the sheep think Moses was a good guy while they condemn ISIS for doing the exact same things the nutty Moses did.
     
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    It is better the Hebrews kill them all. Having their parents eat them would more more terrible. We all know how WR likes baby eating.
     
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    So sorry Wan Ren, there is NO evidence that any of the Canaanites were baby killers.. There is plenty of evidence that they were far more evolved and successful than the Hebrews.. There cities show evidence of being highly organized and productive in mining, pottery making and metallurgy.

    Just as there is NO evidence that Egypt or Turkey or even Jericho were ever flooded.
     
  10. GraspingforPeace

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    One, did you not see Wikipedia article and excerpt where it is NOT for certain, not even close, that these cities have been found?

    I don't know what you're trying to say. Of course Biblical writings wrote about nations that existed at the time. How is that impressive to you?

    Are you talking about the non-canonical Gospels or just random claims that might've been made in the past?
     
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    take the same crime, have two different dudes perpetrate it, then say one didn't do it because his name is bob, while the other guy is named frank.

    it's the defense of small children and lunatics.
     
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    Blaming others is what you have been doing.
    Israeli killed for survival to save their babies against the Amalekites who want to exterminate them that is the topic.

    King Sihon is not of the Amalekite it was a war that King Sihon has wage against the Israelite and in that war they lost and just like every wars in ancient times there exist no such thing as human rights the Amorites under King Sihon showed no mercy to the Hebrews and so will the Hebrews as it was during that time the Amorites.


    Do you think it was okay for enemies of the Hebrews to kill their children and babies?
     
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    This is the reason why we fight them because they claim they are not twisted their aim to kill anyone who refused to submit "islam" to them in the name of their Allah. Same justification, same rational as being presented by those people since the time of the Amalekites, the Mohammedans, the Nazi,and the Communist today represented by ISIS, Taliban, AL Qaeda, Boko Haram, Hamas. And you claim they are good and we are bad???? :(

    The only justification is just wars against extremism such as ISIS and Islamist.
    You defend the evil such as ISIS? That is ok as long as I know I am against them and that you know I am against them.

    You have made your position clear and that is your choice to be against God and against the free world but we will continue to fight them.
     
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    Many times you have justify defending evil because you see they are innocent and it is ok for them to kill Hebrews and their babies.

    Fact: Israeli acted to fight off the Amalekites that were about to exterminate them.
    Fact: Many times you have defended the evil Amalekites.
    Fact: You defend killing in the name of evil.

    Not unusual that you laugh that is what most deniers do they laugh at them selves.


    You call the Hebrews to accept extermination is unacceptable.

    Are you on side of God or with Satan? Make up your mind.

    Wrong the Israeli destroyed the Amalekite because they were evil.

    Nothing to be desperate about with God.
     
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    Actually there were human rights in ancient times. What do you think the ancient codes were. Most city states had them. Whether wandering tribes followed them is another matter.
     
  16. GraspingforPeace

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    The Bible says nothing about the Amalekites trying to "exterminate" the Jews. You're making things up that aren't in the Bible to justify child killing.
     
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    The only human rights was for the conquerors to oppressed, subjugate, exterminate the conquered. And that kind of human right is what we now know is twisted human rights.
     
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    Biblical history is very clear about the Amalekites and their threat against the Israelite.
    God did not order the killing of babies if God did there won't be any people on earth.
     
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    There's no mention of them outside the Bible.

    "Ishmael settled from Havilah to Shur which is east of Egypt as one goes toward Assyria" Gen 25:18.....

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    Not only have historians learn about Sodom and Gomorrah they also have learn about the City of Jericho as stated in the Bible.

    Biblical records of the existence of those civilizations gave modern scholars the understanding of it.

    Everything that they claim in the past and present all with one purpose to discredit God at all cost even if it mean falsifying history.
     
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    Who cares? That isn't a scientific discovery. You have totally failed to provide a SCIENTIFIC discovery that was inspired directly by the Bible.

    That's not true at all. We have records from these nations outside of the Bible. You're acting as if the Bible is the only source that ever spoke about these nations.

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    Sure, as a nomadic tribe that was an annoyance to them. But, this isn't really surprising considering that the Israelites walked into their territory with the stated goal of taking it over.

    He ordered the killing of the infants of the Amalekites. Did these babies deserve to die, WanRen?
     
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    Scholars, scientist, historians, theologians and educators cares to learn about historical past. Jericho, Sodom, Gomorrah, Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Jerusalem and many more Biblical sites are consider scientific discoveries today all those endeavor to discover Biblical past were inspired directly by Bible history. Even modern scientist have all strived hard to learn about God's creative powers, how God created the universe and the uniqueness of human kind.

    The Bible is the only source that proves the existence and reality of God and Jesus Christ.

    So was the way it was just like the Egyptian empire was build by taking what was not theirs, massacring other tribes, enslaving others same with the Assyrians, Babylonians and this goes with the Amalekites as well.


    What do you think was God wrong to order the Amalekite be destroyed?
    Why order the destruction of the Amalekites not the Maobites, Ishmaelites or Egyptians, Assyrians, Babylonians, Philistines or Macedonians?
    IMO, the Amalekites babies do not deserve to die their destiny and eventually their death is on the hand of their parents or guardians.
     
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    Why are you are making up a version of Biblical events that is false?

    It was Israelites that started the war against King Sihon because God told them to according to the Bible.

    Deuteronomy 2:24
    Why are you making false claims about what is said in the Bible ?
     
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    The Israelites did exactly the same thing. There were Mosaic laws that punished people who refused to "submit" to their religion with death.

    ISIS and the Israelites both killed others who did not submit to their religion.

    Your hypocrisy is that you condemn one and not the other.
     
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    I have spoke against killing babies. It does not matter to me whether they were Amalekite babies or the babies the Israelites killed from many other people.

    Why do claim these babies were evil such that killing them was justified ?

    I have never defended killing babies in the name of evil. Why do you keep making false claims ?
     
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