Wouldn't the Bible be a lot more believeable if the Old Test. was cut out?

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  1. anomaly

    anomaly Active Member

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    Yeah cause abstinence only worked so well for the Palin girl huh?

    Instead of condemning all these fatherless kids why don't you do something proactive and find them good homes and families to adopt them?
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yup......… the Bride of Messiah needs to come to understand the value of each human life in a way more like how The Ancient of Days the Father understands our value in the scheme of things............. Each human life has infinite value in the sight of our Creator.... but the majority of us who call ourselves...… the true followers of G-d....... do a poor job of being selfless.

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/howard-storm.html#a04

    If we Christians CARED MORE... we would figure out ways to DO MORE!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...ations-should-print-their-own-currencies.html

    Large churches in democratic nations should print their own currencies.
     
  3. anomaly

    anomaly Active Member

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    And here it finally is... something we agree on.
     
  4. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Good homes don't help much.
    Notice that the two natural parents idea works best, and the step father idea is the worst:

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  5. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    All that is to be done is to talk about the Truth.

    Single Mothers know that shooting kill their sons.
    But what about the other child abuse???

    CHILDREN NEED BOTH PARENTS
    63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes. (Source: U.S. D.H.H.S., Bureau of the Census).
    90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes.
    85% of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes. (Source: Center for Disease Control).
    80% of rapist motivated by displaced anger come from fatherless homes. (Source: Criminal Justice and Behavior, Vol. 14, pp. 403-26).
    71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes. (Source: National Principals A Report on the State of High Schools).
    85% of all youths sitting in prisons grew up in a fatherless home. (Source: Fulton County Georgia jail populations, Texas Dept. Of Corrections, 1992).

    These statistics translate to mean that children from fatherless homes are:
    5 times more likely to commit suicide
    32 times more likely to run away
    20 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
    14 times more likely to commit rape
    9 times more likely to drop out of high school
    20 times more likely to end up in prison

    Children from "fatherless families of single mother" homes are*:
    15.3 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
    4.6 times more likely to commit suicide
    6.6 times more likely to become teenaged mothers
    24.3 times more likely to run away
    15.3 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
    6.3 times more likely to be in a state-operated institutions
    10.8 times more likely to commit rape
    6.6 times more likely to drop out of school
    15.3 times more likely to end up in prison while a teenage
    73% of adolescent murderers come from mother only homes

    Daughters who live in mother only homes are 92% more likely to divorce**
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    http://www.cato.org/publications/con...-state-crime-0
     
  6. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Nah.
    Its "testimony."

    Any jury realizes that different people have seen the same thing differently, or from another perspective.
    The witnesses are generally understood to be telling the truth as they understood it.
    The OT and the NT are the widely accepted two witnesses which Revelation says will appear in the final moment here.
     
  7. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Atheists have nothing to work with though.

    Jesus said he was The Truth and he would arise again.
    He did.

    The son of Reality is Truth.
    And Truth is the image of Reality, too.

    What more can even a secular person say, when "god" means Reality is the almighty creator?

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    ... you mean the anti-Gay, sexual promiscuity stuff...??
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Yes and the same stupid religious idiots that opposed birth control lamented the increase in abortions when they became available.
     
  9. anomaly

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    Dave we have heard it over and over and over and over and over and over and over ... from you on how single parent homes are the work of the devil or what ever it is you are implying. The one thing we

    haven't heard is any proposals to solve the problems just you on your high horse pointing down at the problem you insist is the downfall of us all. Do you have any solutions or are you content to just continue

    to ramble on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on...........................
     
  10. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Yes.
    The abortions are only necessary because the unmarried people have pregnancies which they do not want.
    The government recognizes that Welfare now costs $1 Trillion dollars a year.
    Hence another 1.2 million abortions added to the 2 million illegitimate babies every year would break the bank in Washington.

    $1 Trillion dollars in bigger than the Military Budget and 1/3rd larger than the one time Bail Out, too.

    The religious people need focus on sexual promiscuity, and complain that the abortions are necessary because of it.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Hmmm,...
    If you can accept that single mothers in a Welfare System is destructive behavior that is half the solution right there.

    We need stop any new Welfare recipients by discontinuing the system.

    The people already on the system need understand their daughters will have no funds from the government if they get pregnant.
    But of course this will upset the 75% of the Black families who believe they have secret husband who lives in separate houses so that the money keeps coming in.
    We need tell them that the shootings and failures in High School and dangerous city streets believe this idea.
    The fathers, not living and supporting the family, are the problem.

    We need face the Truth, in other words.
     
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    I mean stuff like this:

    "Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence" 1 Timothy 2:11-12
    "Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord." Colossians 3:18
    "Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear." 1 Peter 3:1-2
    "Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing." Ephesians 5:22-24
     
  13. anomaly

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    So stop sittin' round here (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)in' and start lobbying your representatives... do something ... anything..... cause we've all heard your proselytizing and aren't interested in reading 50 paragraph rants about

    the same subject over and over and over and over and over................any longer.

    But since I don't believe in your cause don't count on me for support. And the reason I don't support your cause is because when my father was killed when I was 11 years old my mother used social

    security and other assistance offered to raise us kids as she had no education beyond high school and no work experience to find work. So even though I was raised in a one parent home I never fell to

    crime or any of the other horrible things you assume fatherless children do! You have no clue as to what you are talking about so I suggest you stop talking and start trying to change what ever it is you are

    so sure is wrong. (even though the only thing wrong is your assumptions)
     
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    Your claim is incorrect even though your sources skew the definition of what welfare actually is...

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...e-dont-spend-1-trillion-on-welfare-each-year/

    Now let's take a look at that military thing you tried to shuffle past us....
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States
    http://www.usfederalbudget.us/federal_budget

    So welfare spending is 9% and defense is 20%... I'd say you've nothing to worry about we have plenty of money to buy more killing machines ..... and can still spend just a little to

    keep poor folks and their children from starving to death or living on the streets!
     

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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Yep,...
    Paul was talking o the early church people as he described what Feminism was doing to one empire after the next, as they each fell down.

    He wanted the women to be silent so he could speak to the men.
    They chased the Harlots and empowered the feminists because they did not see how this destroys a nation as bastard start to appear in great numbers.
    Of course women would have protested, and argued, and made understanding impossible.
     
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    Perhaps Paul's affliction was that he was homosexual... hating women and oppressing women is a sickness. Only truly weak men are convinced they must absolutely control females.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Right.
    And Obama was a fatherless kid raised by his grand parents.
    Many fatherless kids turn out well in the end.
    But as a group, they destroy the society.

    Soc Sec was invented exactly so widows could survive, and their kids had a chance to do well.

    But the big picture is that Welfare grows to $ 1 Trillion dollars annually.
    Adult bastard criminals commit 70% of all violent crime.
    Fatherless kids suffer enormous child abuse too.
    But the women, themselves, cause great social and economic problems beyond the cost of crime and welfare.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Yes, it is terrible to hate women.
    But its OK to hate Feminists.

    Paul said Gayness was part of the Feminism which always joined the women who promoted sexual promiscuity, as they encouraged the same ideas in general, and recommended sex act with other men openly.
    Paul was directly opposed to out-of-the-closet Gayness because it advertised sexual behavior as OK.
     
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    Its not OK to hate feminists.. That's a sickness.. Who in your fevered brain "recommends sex act with men openly"?
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    You numbers are wrong though:

    Total annual spending on federal means-tested welfare programs has hit $1 trillion.
    The Congressional Research Service is out with a new memorandum on spending on these programs. Senator Jeff Sessions, the ranking Republican on the Senate budget committee who requested the memo, has crunched the numbers and come up with the astonishing figure of $1 trillion in annual total spending on these programs as of fiscal year 2011, nearly $750 billion in federal dollars and another roughly $250 billion in state funding.

    Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/330821/total-welfare-spending-now-1-trillion-nro-staff
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, its OK to hate Feminism because its purpose is to change the Culture.

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    Once that is done, the Political Institutions will make laws to support what the Culture does.
    All the things which haoen destroy the society within a few generations.
     
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    And became POTUS so your myth is busted.


    Gee this is the first I've seen you use common sense in this area... congratulations!



    Just when I thought rationality was embracing you.


    But you keep saying these folks using it are the scum of our society.


    Wrong again and I pointed this out to you in post #39


    Your skewed religious sources are making you look foolish


    The abuse I suffered happened when my father was still alive and came from some of the most respected male members of the church.


    Misogynist much?
     
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    No dave my numbers are fine and I even provided the links pointing out the distortions in yours!

    Get over it we are not spending trillions on welfare you just want to claim it is so.

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    I've noticed this also concerning dave's posts.
     
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    Your article merely says it counters the cost I stated by arguments which it says are reasons to lower the number.
    But the article doesn't even mention what the States pay in the Welfare system.
    Nor does it mention that Special Education Students receive about $450 a month financial assistance.

    There are 83 different Welfare packages which must be examined here to get the right numbers, federally, and the the states' contributions too.
     
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    Not the words of Jesus. I don't believe Jesus said anything on the subject. This is one of the many letters of Paul. I've often wondered what Christ would think about Paul's writing.
     
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